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Tommy Robinson On Manchester Terrorist Attack

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No offense, bro, but could you be bothered to write two sentences as to why we should bother to click on the video? I'm assuming you sat and watched it and found it useful or interesting, so I'd also assume you'd want the maximum no. of people to also watch the video. So how 'bout a short summary of videos when people post them (directed generally, not just you)?

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Tommy Robinson is against Islam or something of the sort, and he knows the difference between Sikh and Islamic people and says he respects Sikhism that's all I know about him oh and he speaks against the Govt protecting terrorists or something. 

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There's just something... I get suspicious when we're used, however innocuous it may be, to help someone's argument against Muslims. It makes me feel as if we're being flattered for cynical ends. As a community, and more so on an individual basis, we are incredibly susceptible to flattery and praise, which occasionally leads us to undertaking ill advised action, or at least adopting certain unhelpful attitudes. Yet I do think it's important the stark distinction between Sikh and Muslim must be made to the wider public, especially to the average person who assumes a beard and a covered head denote the same ideology. 

Islamic apologists amongst Sikhs, and some Muslims, will always cite the "divide and conquer" mantra, which is laughable in itself due to the mistaken belief that we as two distinct faith groups were ever unified, but to my mind that's another symptom of an interesting issue that's been brought into sharp focus since the Manchester attack whereby it's clear that Muslims (and some traitorous Sikhs) cannot bear to see Sikhs illuminated in a positive light in mainstream society, especially if it serves to highlight the contrast between our two religions and their respective people.

Be very, very wary of those who are quick to decry Sikhs for daring to differentiate themselves from Islam and Muslims. More often than not such behaviour is rooted in a devious enviousness and downright maliciousness. The unspoken subtext on the part of Muslims for not wanting us to be viewed positively is, "If we're being made to look bad, why are Sikhs being singled out for praise? They should be made to suffer for Muslim devilry." That's the mindset we're dealing with here; a vindictive, warped, and malicious desire to see Sikhs tarred with the same brush as them. Don't fall for their games. 

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Here's a summary of this video:

Tommy Robinson reports about the Manchester attack for the Alex Jones Show. Alex Jones reports on Pres. Macron of France saying terror attacks must be accepted as a part of life. Mayor Sadiq Khan of London says the same (it's "part and parcel" of living in a big city), and that he'll set up safe zones. 

EU destroys internal and external borders, and brings in the Islamicists. Alex Jones says they're taking away British rights, whether they are Sikh British, xyz British, abc British (Interesting he mentions Sikhs first.)

Tommy Robinson surveys the Islamophilic policies of the Government (Rotterham, etc.). What's it going to take for the Govt. to do something? 
The Mayor of Greater Manchester works with Islamic radicals.

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17 minutes ago, BhForce said:

Here's a summary of this video:

Tommy Robinson reports about the Manchester attack for the Alex Jones Show. Alex Jones reports on Pres. Macron of France saying terror attacks must be accepted as a part of life. Mayor Sadiq Khan of London says the same (it's "part and parcel" of living in a big city), and that he'll set up safe zones. 

EU destroys internal and external borders, and brings in the Islamicists. Alex Jones says they're taking away British rights, whether they are Sikh British, xyz British, abc British (Interesting he mentions Sikhs first.)

Tommy Robinson surveys the Islamophilic policies of the Government (Rotterham, etc.). What's it going to take for the Govt. to do something? 
The Mayor of Greater Manchester works with Islamic radicals.

Brother, you seem like a man who knows the score and can hazard a guess at the situation in the future by extrapolating current trends if they continue to develop unhindered. I have a question: where do you see the social and political landscape in Britain by 2099 if the Islamic question is not confronted? Will we sleepwalk into a country with a powerful Islamic coterie able to dominate political, economic, legal, and social circles? And what will such a scenario mean for non-Muslim minorities?

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Tommy robinson has likened the treatment of Sikhs by moguls to isis in a tweet. He is a good good bloke and speaks up Sikhs unlike people like sunny hundal, and talks about Sikh history unlike people like jagsaw.

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23 minutes ago, Hammertime007 said:

Tommy robinson has likened the treatment of Sikhs by moguls to isis in a tweet. He is a good good bloke and speaks up Sikhs unlike people like sunny hundal, and talks about Sikh history unlike people like jagsaw.

I think Jagsaw is an idealist who believes in the ideals of Sikhism, but is just very naive or myopic on some issues. I appreciate his perspective on some issues, and feel that I could at least sit down with him, if only to do Rehiras.

I don't feel like I could ever sit down with Sunny Hundal. Let's just take a little thing like Rehiras. I think he would probably be afraid of Guru Gobind Singh ji's line:

ਰਾਮ ਰਹੀਮ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਕੁਰਾਨ ਅਨੇਕ ਕਹੈਂ ਮਤ ਏਕ ਨ ਮਾਨਯੋ ॥

the Puranas and the Quran try to know Thee by the names of Ram and Rahim and talk about you through several stories, but I do not accept them.

ਦਸਮ ਗਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਪੰਨਾ ੬੪੨ ਪੰ. ੧੧

Afraid of being called Islamophobic for reciting that line, that's how crazy this "Islamophobia" business has become.

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3 hours ago, BhForce said:

Btw, you might be interested in this book. It's in regards to America, but could apply even more to Britain since the percentage of Muslims is so much higher:

Infiltration: How Muslim Spies and Subversives have Penetrated Washington

by Paul Sperry 

https://www.amazon.com/Infiltration-Muslim-Subversives-Penetrated-Washington/dp/1595552480?tag=nypost-20

The most sinister terrorists won't be sneaking through our borders from the Middle East.

They're already here.

This is the untold story about the silent, yet extremely dangerous threat from the Muslim establishment in America?an alarming exposé of how Muslims have for years been secretly infiltrating American society, government, and culture, pretending to be peace-loving and patriotic, while supporting violent jihad and working to turn America into an Islamic state.

In this powder keg of a book, you'll learn:

  • How radical Muslims have penetrated the U.S. military, the FBI, the Homeland Security Department, and even the White House?where subversive Muslims and Arabs have received top-secret clearance.
  • How they've infiltrated the chaplains program in the federal and state prison systems?a top recruiting ground for al-Qaida.
  • How they've successfully run influence operations against our political system with the help of both Democrats and Republicans, badgering corporate boards into Islamizing the workplace.
  • How we've been utterly duped about what the Quran does and doesn't teach. Sadly, much of anti-Western terrorism is simply Islam in practice, the text of the Quran in action.

In a time when religious and political leaders are scrambling to smooth over differences in faith and beliefs, this book gives the terrifying truth abaout the very real, very deadly agenda of Islam and how it has already infiltrated key American institutions with agents, spies, and subversives.

 

hillary's second in charge had family directly linked with muslim brotherhood and yet she was married to a jewish guy not fishy right ...she was privy to all classified communiques going to and from hillary. my gut said she was a sleeper 

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4 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

hillary's second in charge had family directly linked with muslim brotherhood and yet she was married to a jewish guy not fishy right ...she was privy to all classified communiques going to and from hillary. my gut said she was a sleeper 

Not every Jew is religious, that failure SJW, (Sanders), was also a Jew, but for the most part he was atheistic.

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3 hours ago, Jacfsing2 said:

Not every Jew is religious, that failure SJW, (Sanders), was also a Jew, but for the most part he was atheistic.

the point is how many kattar muslman would allow their daughter to marry out of faith especially the hated jews ?

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1 hour ago, jkvlondon said:

the point is how many kattar muslman would allow their daughter to marry out of faith especially the hated jews ?

Clinton's not Muslim.

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10 minutes ago, Jacfsing2 said:

Clinton's not Muslim.

haha

Huma Abedin mother and brother had links with muslim brotherhood high up, was married to Anthony weiner until 2016 when she decided to seperate then divorced when he got discovered with child sexts yet again (was originally a senator and was caught sexting a minor in 2011)

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4 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

the point is how many kattar muslman would allow their daughter to marry out of faith especially the hated jews ?

Imran Khan? 

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Just now, Sukhvirk1976 said:

Imran Khan? 

what about him , he has a daughter ?, he is a kattard ?what???

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2 minutes ago, Sukhvirk1976 said:

He married a Jewish woman 

and how does that relate to my question ? I asked muslmah being allowed to marry out of her faith if her parents are kattard. Muslman are ALLOWED to marry jews and christians if they convert, women no chance full stop

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1 minute ago, Sukhvirk1976 said:

Also I believe Muhamed himself married a woman of Jewish decent 

he murdered her whole family then raped her , something different

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Just now, jkvlondon said:

and how does that relate to my question ? I asked muslmah being allowed to marry out of her faith if her parents are kattard. Muslman are ALLOWED to marry jews and christians if they convert, women no chance full stop

I was just pointing out that not everything is black and white.. 

Sometimes it feels like all this site is about is nindya and finding faults in others 

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1 minute ago, Sukhvirk1976 said:

I was just pointing out that not everything is black and white.. 

Sometimes it feels like all this site is about is nindya and finding faults in others 

my point was that given her parentage Huma's choice would have been blocked . it drew a flag of kitman/ taqquiya to get into the inner security level circle

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1 minute ago, jkvlondon said:

he murdered her whole family then raped her , something different

Interesting.. Can you please provide a source of where you are getting your information.. My understanding is that her father was killed in battle against Muhamed and his men killed him. But I have never read anything to suggest he raped her? Nor any reference to him murdering her whole family.. In fact I am under the impression that after her father was killed she was married and divorced twice and that Muhamed was her third husband..? 

Moreover what I find particularly interesting is that no where in bani or any writings of sikh scholars Muhamed is spoken of as a rapist.. Why would guru nanak dev ji travel to mecca, (if you believe that sakhi) if he thought Muhamed was a rapist, why would guru arjun Dev Ji invite a follower of a rapist Mian Mir to lay the foundation at Harmandir Sahib, why would guru gobind Singh Ji keep relations with Pir Baba bhuddu shah if he followed such people? 

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