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Yesterday, I went to a school party. At the bar i asked for non-alcoholic drink as I am amritdhari, But I was accidentaly  given a beer containing 5% alcohol. 

I swear to God, I didn't like the taste and after  tasting it  i threw it away. Just after that, people started telling that I was turning red and i also felt myself uncomfortable. maybe because i hadn't eaten anything earlier.

My question is that is accidental or minimal consumption of alcohol a sin? Will i have to present myself in front of the 5 pyare and get rebaptised again? are non-alcohol beers also prohibited?

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Guest Guest Singh

Why didn't you ask for a Coke or Orange juice. No confusion then! 

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Amritdhari - party - bar. Words that shouldn't really be in the same paragraph.

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These questions should be addressed to the panj. Just go to the next amrit sanchaar and admit what happened. And then they will decide if it was wrong , if u have to retake amrit or get punishment. 

That's what the panj is for to resolve questions and doubts

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4 hours ago, monatosingh said:

Not saying I have drank alcahol, but what will happen as a punishment?

You have to do extra paath or seva. Nowadays punishments are not that severe. In the past, well Mahraja Ranjit singh was ordered to be whipped.then again he did it intentionally

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Is the logic behind prescribing extra paaths for pesh supposed to eliminate the burden of the transgression? It does make sense if that's the case, otherwise the suggestion is that reciting additional Gurbani is a punishment, which I don't think is quite the right message that should be sent out.

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On 20/5/2017 at 7:09 PM, Guest singh21 said:

My question is that is accidental or minimal consumption of alcohol a sin?

Will i have to present myself in front of the 5 pyare and get rebaptised again? are non-alcohol beers also prohibited?

Brother Guest singh21 jee,

you see, poison whether taken conscioussly or unconscioussly, it is definetely going to harm; but by His apaar kirpa, Gurbani gives us the antidote, not only for this case, but, for all situations.

It is the Name of Wahiguru, which is Amrit, which cleanses all our paaps, no matter what amount of them could be.

Sarab rog ka aukhad Naam.

It is like just as a single  spark is enough to burn to ashes, tons of  accumulated grass, so does His Name, purify us by burning all our sins.

Sat Sree Akal..

 

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How can you get a soft drink confused with a beer, the smell alone would tell you. If if was a genuine mistake I wouldnt do anything, this happens, eg being served something veggie but ended up having egg in it... But it sounds to me you knew what you were drinking, you don't get buzzing off a quick sip, you drank more, you wanted to see what it tastes like and experience it and now you feel bad. So yes do pesh unless you're going to make this mistake agaij then there's no point going this time....

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4 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:

Is the logic behind prescribing extra paaths for pesh supposed to eliminate the burden of the transgression? It does make sense if that's the case, otherwise the suggestion is that reciting additional Gurbani is a punishment, which I don't think is quite the right message that should be sent out.

I think the logic, as explained by some kathakars, is that as Guru is bakhshind (willing to forgive), so too are the Akal Takhat and the Panj Piyare bakhshind. So the purpose of tankhah (the word saja--punishment--is not used), is to reform the errant individual. Hence the extra paaths. Also, it makes quite a difference if the person involved became patit through no fault of their own, or willingly transgressed an explicit rule.

 

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On an unrelated note, would someone have to pesh if they were unconscious and their Kesh were removed because someone, (parents usually), decided to save their lives?

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2 minutes ago, Jacfsing2 said:

On an unrelated note, would someone have to pesh if they were unconscious and their Kesh were removed because someone, (parents usually), decided to save their lives?

How would that happen? (How would cutting your hair save your life?)

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2 minutes ago, BhForce said:

How would that happen? (How would cutting your hair save your life?)

Some surgeries require Kesh removal.

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Just now, Jacfsing2 said:

Some surgeries require Kesh removal.

OK, I would just say that it is generally accepted that either if you do a bajjar kurehit, or a bajjar kurehit is done to you, you have go pesh (present yourself before Panj Piyare). They make the determination, and then you're good with the Guru.

Also, "patit" does not mean "paapi" (sinner), it means fallen (people can fall accidentally, too).

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