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help my sister got groomed by a muslim guy on instagram

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Hi I am not sikh but hindu punjabi however I do have Sikh relatives and learning about sikhi online. I came to this forum to ask for advice my older sister whose over 21 now and has run off with a muslim guy of pakistani origin and rumors are that she was pregnant so felt she had to run away and converted to islam for him. She is currently living in a flat on rent with him but she wont tell us where exactly they staying.

We live in a muslim dominated part of the UK where muslims out number non-muslims in schools and colleges and it was at college that she started to secretly date muslim guys but she never told me about this until recently. Recently I found out she was seeing a guy secretly who she had met from instagram, our family isnt very religious but they believe in pundits and babay and go mandir and bhawans time to time. So to find out my sister might have converted to islam is a massive shock for us and has put added trouble in the family where we have got a bad name now in the community. When I last spoke to my sis she said she loved this guy and she wants to marry him. I feel as if I should have stepped in sooner to stop from all this happening but now i think its too late.

What if anything can I do to make her see sense or bring her back into the family? Our family isnt the only one who are experiencing this crisis I have learn many other british indian families also are suffering the same thing happening to their daughters and sisters.

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2 hours ago, simran345 said:

Contact Sikh Awareness Society, they will advise you better:

https://m.facebook.com/SikhAwarenessSocietySAS/?locale2=en_GB

http://www.sasorg.co.uk/about/

 

 

Ok thanks but not the kinda help I'm looking for hence I came here for advice.

I don't want other people who may know our family to get involved as its quite disgracing and shameful for any indian family to getting a bad rep when a girl runs away from home especially with a muslim guy, so we want to solve it ourselves.

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Dear Tina, Sikh Awareness Society are very discrete and non-judgemental and not well known among the Hindu community.

The Quran gives permission to Muslim men to rape non-Muslims and use them as sex slaves. Without SAS the situation is dangerous for your sister.

Good luck 

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I feel a lot of these ppl who ask and answer questions are trolls. Muslim or other 

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All hindu and sikh girls should be made aware of these circumcised predators from a young age. Girls elope because we don't educate them enough on all these live issues 

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Brother, 

I know you are concerned.  Please forgive any negativity from the above posts. They clearly lack compassion, which is a priority before one can call themselves Sikh, Hindu etc.

Please forgive if I also offend in any way.

If you can still speak to her, etc. it may help to meet without judgement of what has happened. Everyone makes bad decisions. Humans are all full of flaws because there are five thieves that prevent us from being absolute - this includes desire (including sexual desire). We all suffer from this. It is one of the most difficult vices to control. And when it is mixed with emotional feelings, it becomes almost too powerful where it takes over our better judgement. Understand that she means well, and try your best to disregard what the "world" is thinking.

Brother, I cannot help you myself. But I know someone beyond that can - the poorea Satguru.

If you can convince yourself and/or your sister, take the blessed dharshan of Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. You see brother, the guru is antarjami - i.e. the Guru is not a "book", he is beyond and knows your inner pains and sufferings without being told.

If you can, please see the gurdwarra with your sister and kindly ask the granthi or some other Singhs in your area to do Ardaas and ask Maharaj for a Hukamnama. The Guru will give you and your sister the perfect advice.

I highly recommend doing this. 

May Dhan Guru Nanak guide you.  All you need to do brother is take one step towards the Guru and the Guru will go beyond anything in this world to not only meet you, but to resolve your affairs. Be genuine in attempt and fall infront of the Guru, he will pick you up!

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Admin: Why was my second reply to this post deleted without any notification? What did I write wrong? At least let me know if you are going to start deleting my posts without telling me. 

So my post with the good advice gets deleted, but other ones are left that may not be as relevant to topics. 

WHATS GOING ON ADMIN? 

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Sister Simran Ji I think it was due to the troll who was being horrible to our sister Tina (to exclude his quote)

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On 07/05/2017 at 1:02 PM, Guest tina sharma said:

Ok thanks but not the kinda help I'm looking for hence I came here for advice.

I don't want other people who may know our family to get involved as its quite disgracing and shameful for any indian family to getting a bad rep when a girl runs away from home especially with a muslim guy, so we want to solve it ourselves.

Tina , Your sis is not going to be persuaded easily because the guy's got into her head and created a disconnection by creating a doubt about her own faith and family . Take the advice and help of SAS because they have helped many families like yours and also girls in far worse situations for decades . They understand exactly about izzat etc so will be sympathetic to you and yours , your sis is our sis too . Good luck 

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30 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

Tina , Your sis is not going to be persuaded easily because the guy's got into her head and created a disconnection by creating a doubt about her own faith and family . Take the advice and help of SAS because they have helped many families like yours and also girls in far worse situations for decades . They understand exactly about izzat etc so will be sympathetic to you and yours , your sis is our sis too . Good luck 

I wrote something along the lines of this too. But mine got deleted 😡

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Just now, simran345 said:

I wrote something along the lines of this too. But mine got deleted 😡

maybe someone had a brain parp

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2 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

Tina , Your sis is not going to be persuaded easily because the guy's got into her head and created a disconnection by creating a doubt about her own faith and family . Take the advice and help of SAS because they have helped many families like yours and also girls in far worse situations for decades . They understand exactly about izzat etc so will be sympathetic to you and yours , your sis is our sis too . Good luck 

Nice to see sikhs helping hindus despite hindus scheming against Sikhs for decades and still. I hope waheguru will notice all this

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2 minutes ago, AjeetSinghPunjabi said:

Nice to see sikhs helping hindus despite hindus scheming against Sikhs for decades and still. I hope waheguru will notice all this

Waheguru ji is making all this happen ... I think He's aware

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2 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

maybe someone had a brain parp

Ki pata ki hunda. 

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Just now, simran345 said:

Ki pata ki hunda. 

haha

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28 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

Waheguru ji is making all this happen ... I think He's aware

Not all Hindus are bad, like in every faith/religion there is good and bad. The Gurus helped them, so we should learn from that. 

 

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just because she eloped with a muslim man does not mean she was "groomed" she is an adult and went with him by her own choice.  sorry but thats how it is.

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11 hours ago, Guest Reason said:

Sister Simran Ji I think it was due to the troll who was being horrible to our sister Tina (to exclude his quote)

Probably was @bro or sis. Thanks whoever you are. 

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7 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

She's over 21.

 

Are you sure she was groomed? 

Just cos she 21 doesnt mean she cant be groomed!!!!!

Grooming has many variations there is grooming underage person for sex, there is grooming a non-muslim adult to sexually abuse and convert (sex jihad), grooming a non-muslim to love , convert and marry (love jihad).

until we get what grooming and its many variations are in our peoples heads then this issue will keep on happening.

All type of grooming by muslim guys of non-muslim girls/women is highly condemable and should not be tolerated by any civilised modern society.

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9 hours ago, Guest Tony said:

Just cos she 21 doesnt mean she cant be groomed!!!!!

Grooming has many variations there is grooming underage person for sex, there is grooming a non-muslim adult to sexually abuse and convert (sex jihad), grooming a non-muslim to love , convert and marry (love jihad).

until we get what grooming and its many variations are in our peoples heads then this issue will keep on happening.

All type of grooming by muslim guys of non-muslim girls/women is highly condemable and should not be tolerated by any civilised modern society.

You talk about modern society. Whitey in their modern, 'civilised' society are just going to see it as two adults from different sides of the fence that chose to be together - Romeo and Juliet style.

And if you are going to talk about the types of grooming that you are. Take a look at what goes on in offices in London. They routinely isolate attractive ethnic girls and place them around whites so that they are subtly compelled to start dating one. So by your definitions, it isn't just Muslims doing it.  

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10 hours ago, Guest Tony said:

Just cos she 21 doesnt mean she cant be groomed!!!!!

Grooming has many variations there is grooming underage person for sex, there is grooming a non-muslim adult to sexually abuse and convert (sex jihad), grooming a non-muslim to love , convert and marry (love jihad).

until we get what grooming and its many variations are in our peoples heads then this issue will keep on happening.

All type of grooming by muslim guys of non-muslim girls/women is highly condemable and should not be tolerated by any civilised modern society.

No offense, but how are Christians and Atheists any more civilized than Muslims, don't get me wrong, all 3 are uncivilized F*cks, but expecting someone who doesn't know what the truth is to be civilized is a bit silly. We should expose Jesus, Muhammad, and Moses and all their followers equally.

On 5/6/2017 at 9:07 PM, Guest tina sharma said:

 

47 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

You talk about modern society. Whitey in their modern, 'civilised' society are just going to see it as two adults from different sides of the fence that chose to be together - Romeo and Juliet style.

And if you are going to talk about the types of grooming that you are. Take a look at what goes on in offices in London. They routinely isolate attractive ethnic girls and place them around whites so that they are subtly compelled to start dating one. So by your definitions, it isn't just Muslims doing it.  

Yes, we should totally expose all these false religions and their ideology. Once we ackwolegde that all religions are not equal, we will then come to our senses. All of this buffoonery happened post Singh-Sahba SGPC preaching, "All religions lead to Vaheguru", non-sense, now we must re-educate our people into Sikhs are the best.

 

@OP, it's a bit too late for you to do anything at this point, but in the future warn your female Rishtadhars about the evil committed by the Abrahamic faiths, and don't be one of them soft Hindus, like we have some soft Sikhs today. Keep values like Isaat, respect, and loyalty as the emphasis and you won't see more declines. 

On 5/9/2017 at 7:06 AM, AjeetSinghPunjabi said:

Nice to see sikhs helping hindus despite hindus scheming against Sikhs for decades and still. I hope waheguru will notice all this

Don't be that guy. 😒 If someone is asking for help, I bet you are going to an a-s-s-hole, about it aren't you? The great Vaheguru knew about this conversation before you were even born. How would you like someone treating you as S*it, for being gay, when we all know true Gurmat bans such ideas. So either you keep quiet and respect others, or everyone can treat you like S*it cause your gay.

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Yes, we should totally expose all these false religions and their ideology. Once we ackwolegde that all religions are not equal, we will then come to our senses. All of this buffoonery happened post Singh-Sahba SGPC preaching, "All religions lead to Vaheguru", non-sense, now we must re-educate our people into Sikhs are the best.

You know you sound like a retard. I've told you a good few times now that indigenous whites in England are totally not affiliated to any religious identity other than some mickey mouse CofE thing (and that by a tiny minority too), which doesn't even appear to be a religious thing anyway.

Seriously, wake up to nuances. What you're saying sounds retarded otherwise. 

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