Concept of the word Bhagauti in Ardas

[singhbj singh]

http://www.sikh24.com/2017/05/04/concept-of-bhagauti-in-ardas/#.WQt_MoFX7qA

[simran345]

 

[BhForce]

It is disturbing that a Gurdwara in Fresno is modified the Ardas by removing the word Bhagauti. Are they totally unaware of 20th century Sikh history (esp. with respect to Bhagauti), and think that only with the coming of Ragi Darshan Singh did Sikhs understand their religion?

What is heartening, though, is that it was an office-holder in the "Khalis Foundation" that is refuting all this anti-Dasam Granth Sahib nonsense:

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Prabhdev Singh has Engineering and IT degrees and is overseeing several Khalis Foundation projects.  He currently supervises the media and outreach division of Khalis Foundation.  He is currently working for an IT company as a product manager and apart from this, he is also a founder and director of the West Coast Sikhi Camp.

Usually officers of these types of Sikh foundations are the first to latch on to some sort of anti-Sikh theory or another. Also, when someone has a high position in business, they also nurture anti-Sikh thoughts in their heads. Heartening to see that this Sikh has his head screwed on straight.

[jkvlondon]

why is anyone payingany attention to Darshan when he was excommunicated for his actions??

[chatanga]

Being excommunicated doesn't seem to count for much these days, and not many are apparently scared by it. Within their own circles they have absolutely no fear.

[Guest AjeetSinghPunjabi]

It shows some of our people don't really understand wat our guru said.

Bhagauti / Bhagwati is worshipped as goddess among hindus but guru explained real meaning behind hindu gods

Bhagauti means shakti of waheguru. Both the destructive and constructive force of ParBrahm is called Bhagauti. It is also called by names like chandi, durga, kaali, etc. Its an aspect of god only. It is shown as feminine aspect of Brahm (god) 

Shiva means consciousness. Its subtle. 

Its considered male aspect of brahm. 

 

Btw Hindu vidwaan and Sikh vidwaan both agreed on this. Actually shiva and shakti are one only. 

There's only one god but with multiple aspects. 

And here in lies key difference between Hindus and Sikhs. Sikhs worship god as absolute, as one. Hindus worship independent facets of god as mahesh ganesh vishnu durga etc

Nice explanation here http://www.yogamag.net/archives/1991/bmar91/twins.shtml

[Akalifauj]

1 hour ago, AjeetSinghPunjabi said:

 

Shiva means consciousness. Its subtle. 

Its considered male aspect of brahm. 

 

Btw Hindu vidwaan and Sikh vidwaan both agreed on this. Actually shiva and shakti are one only. 

There's only one god but with multiple aspects. 

And here in lies key difference between Hindus and Sikhs. Sikhs worship god as absolute, as one. Hindus worship independent facets of god as mahesh ganesh vishnu durga etc

Nice explanation here http://www.yogamag.net/archives/1991/bmar91/twins.shtml

Don't substitute truth for garbage.  Shiva is the created so is shakti.  Shiva was begging at the Sikh Guru's feet for mukhti. Your link is garbage, calls shiva unmanifested......what a joke.  If you consider yourself a Sikh, why do you go begging at illiterate people doors.  What is wrong with you?  The true Guru is there for you to understand and you don't need to go anywhere else.  These type of Sikhs love getting slapped around by dhoti wearing pakhandis.

[Kira]

On 2017-5-10 at 6:16 AM, AjeetSinghPunjabi said:

It shows some of our people don't really understand wat our guru said.

Bhagauti / Bhagwati is worshipped as goddess among hindus but guru explained real meaning behind hindu gods

Bhagauti means shakti of waheguru. Both the destructive and constructive force of ParBrahm is called Bhagauti. It is also called by names like chandi, durga, kaali, etc. Its an aspect of god only. It is shown as feminine aspect of Brahm (god) 

Shiva means consciousness. Its subtle. 

Its considered male aspect of brahm. 

 

Btw Hindu vidwaan and Sikh vidwaan both agreed on this. Actually shiva and shakti are one only. 

There's only one god but with multiple aspects. 

And here in lies key difference between Hindus and Sikhs. Sikhs worship god as absolute, as one. Hindus worship independent facets of god as mahesh ganesh vishnu durga etc

Nice explanation here http://www.yogamag.net/archives/1991/bmar91/twins.shtml

That's the main issue though, Guru Sahib already explained that these entities aren't god, or even a small portion of God. God is beyond all of them, they're bound by death and Maya. Just like the rest of us. The issue arises that true Bhagats left all these demigods behind.

[ipledgeblue]

look, some "sikhs" don't understand nirguna/sarguna concept of Waheguru Akaal. They are stuck in gora/firanghi understanding of God, which has damaged sikh panth and sikh literature and teaching since colonial times. All this paranoia to heritage and cultural terms used for nirguna and sarguna roop stems from those times.