To what extent is vengeance okay in Sikhi?

[singhbj singh]

Also, how do we distinguish between revenge and justice?

 

 

[MisterrSingh]

I don't think it is "okay" if we go by scripture. Yet I can certainly understand the desire to exact revenge. Just don't assume it'll be signed off and embraced by the faith. If revenge is a path to be embarked upon, do it of your own volition. Regardless of the reasons for undertaking it, the consequences will need to be faced no matter how strongly you feel your justification is for taking matters into your own hands. 

Justice is a whole different kettle of fish. Revenge I feel stems from anger and rage, and might be classed as excessive or without restraint, whereas justice might be the calm and rational path taken after consideration.

If, God forbid, someone dear to me was murdered, I would want to enact revenge, but I know that when I do cross that line in retaliation, I don't expect to be forgiven for fighting fire with fire. I fully expect to pay for my own crime no matter how strongly I feel I was justified in my rage.

True justice can only ever be delivered by a higher power. 

[Guest Jacfsing2]

36 minutes ago, singhbj singh said:

Also, how do we distinguish between revenge and justice?

 

 

Vengeance is something happened to you, so you are going to do something in return to get back at them. But when the time comes for punishment, you run like a coward. Revenge is a form of Krodh

Justice is when something is happening to you, and instead of you getting something from them to get your satisfaction, you will use the least amount of punishment to achieve that justice. But when the time comes, you accept your punishment and not try running away because you believe it was right. Justice is a form of Dharam/Himmat.

Examples include:

Revenge: Someone kills your son, you kill their son and them, maybe entire massacres, and you try running away when someone wants to give you a punishment.

Justice: Someone kills your son, you bring justice by only killing that individual who killed yourself. And when someone gives you a form of punishment you accept it and will be ready for the consequences.

You can only stand-up for justice if you feel like you can accept the consequences, otherwise it's badla.

[Akalifauj]

27 minutes ago, Jacfsing2 said:

Vengeance is something happened to you, so you are going to do something in return to get back at them. But when the time comes for punishment, you run like a coward. Revenge is a form of Krodh

Justice is when something is happening to you, and instead of you getting something from them to get your satisfaction, you will use the least amount of punishment to achieve that justice. But when the time comes, you accept your punishment and not try running away because you believe it was right. Justice is a form of Dharam/Himmat.

Examples include:

Revenge: Someone kills your son, you kill their son and them, maybe entire massacres, and you try running away when someone wants to give you a punishment.

Justice: Someone kills your son, you bring justice by only killing that individual who killed yourself. And when someone gives you a form of punishment you accept it and will be ready for the consequences.

You can only stand-up for justice if you feel like you can accept the consequences, otherwise it's badla.

Chandu shah torture and killing at the hands of the sikhs commanded by the sixth guru

[Akalifauj]

Masands burnt alive by the order of the 10th Guru.

[StarStriker]

 

[genie]

1 hour ago, StarStriker said:

 

Great video, thanks for sharing.

[pavitarsk]

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