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Couple of months ago, Wikipedia page for Sikhism was edited. Instead of showing Sikhism as the fifth-largest global religion now it shows it as the ninth-largest religion. The fifth place has been taken by some "Folk religion". Sixth is Taoism, Seventh is some "Shinto" and Eighth "Falun Gong". (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_religious_groups#Medium-sized_religions)

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Judaism has 17 million followers compared to our 28 mill, and look how they're running tings internationally! Oy vey, maybe they are the chosen people. 😀

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Just now, MisterrSingh said:

Judaism has 17 million followers compared to our 28 mill, and look how they're running tings internationally! Oy vey, maybe they are the chosen people. 😀

Yeah, that's good! The bad part is that Chinese "religions" founded in 1990s have more followers!

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I thought Taoism was a philosophy of life not a religion per se ...any clues ? and besides I thought during Communism years all religious practices were stopped ..so how come so high figures for China ?

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23 minutes ago, 5akaalsingh said:

Yeah, that's good! The bad part is that Chinese "religions" founded in 1990s have more followers!

I wouldn't go as far to suggest those religions aren't genuine, or they lack some sort of legitimacy. The main reason for their high number of followers is possibly due to their generally higher population.

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27 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

I wouldn't go as far to suggest those religions aren't genuine, or they lack some sort of legitimacy. The main reason for their high number of followers is possibly due to their generally higher population.

indeed. those chinese have the biggest population in the world

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There's a major problem with religions listed as 5-8, and that is it's a bunch of religions joined together, also you can combine those religious practices with any religion, not just that one, a good example is Shintoism, Folk religion, and Taoism which all allow their followers to mix and match with other religions, (the main one being Buddhism), also if we included the I don't know how many Vanjaria Sikhs our numbers would still be 5th place. If we were playing the same demographic numbers these religions were playing, then we could include that Hindu or that Christian that went to the Gurdwara once. Even if we were to do that our numbers at best would be 4th place, but we would most likely stay in 5th place. 

1 hour ago, MisterrSingh said:

Judaism has 17 million followers compared to our 28 mill, and look how they're running tings internationally! Oy vey, maybe they are the chosen people. 😀

Judaism has one thing that gives them power, and that is that Christians are their ghulams,(Jerusalem is under their control), if you had 2 billion slaves and even if you were one person, you could rule a huge population. Heck their Pakhandi Baba named Jesus Ghadar Christ was a Jew who believed in Jewish ideology. The Varican City also has a lot of power for the same reason. Saudi Arabia also has lots of power for the same reason of owning a religious capital for outsiders. Heck, if we had the same benefits they have with an international religious capital which many people of other countries respect, Punjabis would be seen like Devtas and we would be seen as the supreme people; however, no such scenario exists. Let me just say if we had a city in Punjab with importance for outsiders, (like non-Punjabi/Subcontinental), such as Mecca, Vatican, Ganges, or Jeuralesum, then all of our demands would be met by tomorrow no questions asked, (heck we could ask for people to some otherwise irrational stuff and they'd still do it). 

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5 hours ago, 5akaalsingh said:

Instead of showing Sikhism as the fifth-largest global religion now it shows it as the ninth-largest religion.

Thanks for highlighting this. 

You people know what to do ... Log out of Sikhsangat.com, close the laptop, and get to making some babies!!

Just do it.

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15 minutes ago, BhForce said:

Thanks for highlighting this. 

You people know what to do ... Log out of Sikhsangat.com, close the laptop, and get to making some babies!!

Just do it.

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ORR.... get BOS to roll out parchaarik course to online form with residential for certain aspects like santhiya (or co-op with taksal classes)

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40 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

You know why you struggle with focusing on spirituality, curbing Kaam, etc? Because of nonsense like that in bold. You heap such incredible bhaar on yourself without having the kamaai to shoulder such words and opinions. You don't have to agree or like other faiths and their figureheads - i certainly don't when it comes to a few of them - but where do you get the cojones to speak of such figures in that way? 

+1 Every Mahapurukh has said the same thing, the greatest is Guru Sahib! Remember all these Pakhandis went to Harnaam Singh and touched his feet, not the other way around. This right here shows how even they ackwolegded that Sikhi is the only true religion. The greatness of being Sikh is what keeps me going, if I was a follower of any of these Pakhandis I don't know where I'd be going. Even Randhir Singh said in his book when he saw all those Jamdoots how they fear the power of Guru Sahib and anyone who was Sikh. Bhai Gurdas also said such "nonsense", as you claim that Sikhs were the best of the best, higher than Devtas and Devti. I'm a lowly Sikh, (probably one of the worst there is), and there's no way that I'm going to accept being lower spiritually to some deluded person like Muhammad or Jesus or even Moses, just on a non-Sikh level, the Dharmic faiths have their problems; however, their leaders actually tried to teach simran, (fake simran, but still a start), while in Christianity and Islam Simran is a ban.

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12 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

You aren't them. You never will be the way you're going. The greatest Sikh parcharaks, kathavachaks, and scholars I've heard in my life have never flapped their gums about these figures in the manner that you do.  They highlight their deficiencies according to Gurmat. You insult them as if they cut you up in traffic.

I'll say it again: you aren't them. There's nothing Sikh about what you're doing. It's demented childishness. 

+1, I respect a lot of what you say, and you seem like you know much more than I do, though I already admitted that:

47 minutes ago, Jacfsing2 said:

I'm a lowly Sikh, (probably one of the worst there is), 

But if Bhai Gurdas said it I'll just repeat what he said, since we are allowed to read those Vaars, (and 100% of it is fact). But being a Sikh does keep me going in life. It gives me the willpower that I wouldn't otherwise have to fight my internal battles. Sometimes being reminded that I am Sikh prevents me from collapsing like I used to when I thought in humanistic thoughts. 

21 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

 They highlight their deficiencies according to Gurmat. You insult them as if they cut you up in traffic.

No it's much worse! Whenever I had read that Bible, I received no spiritual benefit and just felt like I read a book about some Israelites constantly getting either bullied by the foreign kings, or how the Isrealites would believe in a rude God, who just tortured innocents. Let me say, if you read the entire Bible in it's entirety and follow every word of it, you'd be a crazy person. If you read Gurbani and you followed that in it's entirety, you'd come to the realization on so many things. I read some Gurbani, and I realize it makes me actually grow as a person. 

Their guy says this:

"Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ" Bible

Our Guru says this: 

"ਜਾਣਹੁ ਜੋਤਿ ਨ ਪੂਛਹੁ ਜਾਤੀ ਆਗੈ ਜਾਤਿ ਨ ਹੇ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Jaanahu Joth N Pooshhahu Jaathee Aagai Jaath N Hae ||1|| Rehaao ||

जाणहु जोति न पूछहु जाती आगै जाति न हे ॥१॥ रहाउ ॥

Recognize the Lord's Light within all, and do not consider social class or status; there are no classes or castes in the world hereafter. ||1||Pause||" (Ang 349 Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji)

This is not a comparision, if your words say one thing which isn't pure it's not perfect, it's imperfect. And imperfection is less than what our perfect Guru could even do. In Gurmat circumcision is not right; however, Jesus circumcised himself, it's also a big Paap to show magic and he used magic to gain followers.

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29 minutes ago, Jacfsing2 said:

+1, I respect a lot of what you say, and you seem like you know much more than I do, though I already admitted that:

But if Bhai Gurdas said it I'll just repeat what he said, since we are allowed to read those Vaars, (and 100% of it is fact). But being a Sikh does keep me going in life. It gives me the willpower that I wouldn't otherwise have to fight my internal battles. Sometimes being reminded that I am Sikh prevents me from collapsing like I used to when I thought in humanistic thoughts. 

No it's much worse! Whenever I had read that Bible, I received no spiritual benefit and just felt like I read a book about some Israelites constantly getting either bullied by the foreign kings, or how the Isrealites would believe in a rude God, who just tortured innocents. Let me say, if you read the entire Bible in it's entirety and follow every word of it, you'd be a crazy person. If you read Gurbani and you followed that in it's entirety, you'd come to the realization on so many things. I read some Gurbani, and I realize it makes me actually grow as a person. 

Their guy says this:

"Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ" Bible

Our Guru says this: 

"ਜਾਣਹੁ ਜੋਤਿ ਨ ਪੂਛਹੁ ਜਾਤੀ ਆਗੈ ਜਾਤਿ ਨ ਹੇ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Jaanahu Joth N Pooshhahu Jaathee Aagai Jaath N Hae ||1|| Rehaao ||

जाणहु जोति न पूछहु जाती आगै जाति न हे ॥१॥ रहाउ ॥

Recognize the Lord's Light within all, and do not consider social class or status; there are no classes or castes in the world hereafter. ||1||Pause||" (Ang 349 Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji)

This is not a comparision, if your words say one thing which isn't pure it's not perfect, it's imperfect. And imperfection is less than what our perfect Guru could even do. In Gurmat circumcision is not right; however, Jesus circumcised himself, it's also a big Paap to show magic and he used magic to gain followers.

I think you need to read the new testament, Jesus already said that Christians weren't meant to be following that testament, most of it describes the stuff we see in charitropakhyan. In fact, its just another way to describing the horrors of Kalyug from a different perspective. Bhai Gurdas Ji never called Jesus or anything a traitor, they're about as treacherous as we are, they ended up victims of Maya after she enslaved them, but know this they are above us all in terms of Spirituality in this current state of ours (Rama, Jesus etc), if we follow the lines of Gurbani we can surpass them, but till you do be careful about what you say, they may not hold a candle to Sant Harnam Singh Ji but they are spiritually wise as well.  Yes they were imperfect, but calling them those kind of derogatory words will just work against us. 

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