EU COURT ENDORSES A BAN ON SIKH TURBAN

[CHaamCHrick]

http://dalkhalsa.blogspot.co.uk/2017/03/eu-eu-court-endorses-ban-on-turban-w.html?m=1

I am not sure if they are going to ban the Sikh turban in the EU or the UK? Can someone please translate what is being said on the video. Why is no one talking about this in the gurdwaras or Sikh channels? 

[kcmidlands]

With the greatest of respect to the person speaking in this video it seem's he's got the wrong end of the stick or he's been wrongly informed as to how EU law works in relation to the UK irrelevant of whether we were going to stay in the EU or not (which we aren't anymore). He's speaking about an issue on France and claiming it is going on all over Europe.

This all relates to France's obsession (and law) with banning religious symbols in schools and the workplace, it started with the banning of a full burka because it covered the face and any religious dress that cover's the full face.

As a result of these laws Sikh's are not allowed to present a photo to the government authorities wearing a turban to obtain a passport, driving licence or any government identification document (ID); nor is a Sikh allowed to attend a state school wearing a turban.

The UN human rights body has backed French Sikh's in fighting this, for more information see the link below:

http://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/France_turban_issue

As far as the relevance to the UK, it has none, we have strong law's protecting religious identity and freedom and even if we stayed in the EU these would bear no relevance to us.

The reason no one is taking about it, no idea, as far as i know it's only France that kicks up a fuss about these things and the forthcoming election's over there are going to be interesting to say the least, especially if Marine Le Pen win's (which we all better pray she doesn't)

[Ranjeet01]

There are about 15000 Sikhs in France and they live in the Paris area/region.

If things are so difficult for them, why don't they just move?

[MisterrSingh]

I don't think we in the UK have anything to worry about, as the forummer above has explained in good detail.

What is quite disappointing from a Sikh perspective is the fact that a cowardly and ineffectual white establishment sees fit to throw the members of the Sikh religion - a faith that has no precedence in undermining social cohesion in Europe - under the bus, so to speak, for the sake of "fairness" instead of confronting the elephant in the room that is Islam and a certain strand of its followers. Under the devious cover of being seen to be just and fair, they'd rather attack all religious articles of faith rather than single out the one particular faith that has the problem. That's the kind of cowardice we're dealing with here in Europe. Do any of you honestly believe any of these people will stand up for us when the dark times arrive? Of course they won't. We'll only have ourselves to blame if we continue to wallow in a mistaken sense of security.

[kcmidlands]

33 minutes ago, Ranjeet01 said:

If things are so difficult for them, why don't they just move?

If Le Pen win's the Presidential election that starts this weekend i think they may well have to move.

[Kira]

Just now, kcmidlands said:

If Le Pen win's the Presidential election that starts this weekend i think they may well have to move.

are her policies really that anti-religion? I don't know too much about the French Election as I dont really focus too much on that region.

[Ranjeet01]

5 minutes ago, kcmidlands said:

If Le Pen win's the Presidential election that starts this weekend i think they may well have to move.

The fact that we are a tiny minority in France may work in our favour.

However, I agree with MisterrSingh that because of the Islamic problem in France all other religions are made to suffer.

LePen if voted in will try to initiate Frexit. The integrity of the EU hinges on France/Germany.  

If France leaves, the EU project will be in jeopardy. 

[Ranjeet01]

It just so happens that a police officer has been shot dead in Paris by a suspect that belongs to a particular ideology that bows to a particular city in the Arabian peninsula.

As well as people from this particular ideology that happen to run people over with trucks, or shoots people in nightclubs and cafes, create no go areas, regularly firebombs cars.

Just remember that there are  millions of non French origin people that may be poor with lack of opportunities that do not follow the Arabian city bowing ideology that do not do those things that I have mentioned above.

When people's from the Arab bowing ideology did things like this during the Khalsa Raj, we knew how Hari Singh Nalwa dealt with them.

The French have to deal with this menace with their hands tied behind their backs whilst trying to keep whatever structure of their nation intact.

[MisterrSingh]

41 minutes ago, Ranjeet01 said:

When people's from the Arab bowing ideology did things like this during the Khalsa Raj, we knew how Hari Singh Nalwa dealt with them.

I can't decide whether this hesitation to confront these ugly truths is an admirable form of optimism that would put even the most spiritually benevolent to shame, or it's a psychological infirmity that's paralysed their human predisposition for planning ahead in order to deal with all eventual outcomes. Whatever it is, their negligence will result in bloodshed. I don't understand why people cannot sense the simmering tensions that seem to get worse with each passing year. Something must give, and when it does it won't be pretty. 

[Ranjeet01]

2 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

I can't decide whether this hesitation to confront these ugly truths is an admirable form of optimism that would put even the most spiritually benevolent to shame, or it's a psychological infirmity that's paralysed their human predisposition for planning ahead in order to deal with all eventual outcomes. Whatever it is, their negligence will result in bloodshed. I don't understand why people cannot sense the simmering tensions that seem to get worse with each passing year. Something must give, and when it does it won't be pretty. 

It is cowardice. 

This is something Hindus did in centuries past. 

People think that if you fight back that somehow the enemy will come back harder. But by the same token, by doing nothing it further emboldens.

If this happened 50-60 years ago, people of this ideology would face some terrible repercussions.

If there is anything that will put Le Pen in power , this will.

According to reports, at least 51 percent of French police will vote for Le Pen.

The North African community in Europe is an extremely belligerent one. It is one that Europeans are very aware of from the Carthage days, the Moors, the Barbary coast.

Only the Spaniards in the 15th century and the Romans in the Punic Wars knew how to deal with them.