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Disgusting fight in New York Gurdwara in Guru Sahibs Hazuri

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Such a shame for our community.

What was the fight over, and who is that old man in the light yellow turban who started the fight punching somebody sitting cross-legged? Also what Gurdwara?

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New York Gurdwaras have had famous fights before back in 2011 and 2005. I believe this one in Richmond Hill, has also had them before  The other one with trouble was Baba makhan shah where the kirpans were drawn and Singhs were attacking with chimtas and shennas from the stage.

Disgusting,... and then we expect NYPD to show respect.

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Apparently, this behaviour is nothing to be ashamed of according to some. It's all part and parcel of our rich religious and cultural heritage.

Can somebody name me a moment in Sikh history when one of our Guru Sahibs were present in the darbaar, and the sangat kicked off in this manner? I'd seriously like to know if there's any truth in the above assertion.

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34 minutes ago, kalyugi said:

Its just funny that the guy with light yellow turban, got up, did a little ardas and matha tek to Guru sahib, and then went on to start the fight.

This is the Sikh Cultural Society Gurdwara in Richmond Hill, new york.

I would imagine that the Gurus darbar would have Armed Guards. So even an external person ( not a sikh) tried to cause trouble, he would have gotten good shittar right there and then outside the darbar.

But I wonder if Gurus had armed pehredars from 1st to 5th Jot ?

From what I gathered, yeah they did.

 

I know its a sickening sight but the whole aftermath with everyone running around made me laugh a bit, While a couple went to break it up, you have that one guy who just went "nah im out of here" and bolted for the door.

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Could it be that these fights are mostly started by indian government non-sikh agents?

Any Sikh with at least w braincells knows you do not fight or start beef in a gurdwara unless you want to be shamed worldwide via CCTV or beaten up real bad by the sangat.

So most of these guys who start fights clearly dont have any respect for Sikhs or Sikhi or Guru's darbar they must be excommunicated as non-sikhs, publicly named shamed and beaten to an inch of their lives.

We have witnessed dozens of these incidents in recent years and if the impotent cucked akal takht jathedhar and western gurdwara commitee's wont take armed action against cowardly giddard culprits (who start physically assaulting people in gurdwara) then sangat must take action in my view they are at the same level as pedophiles, and terrorists.

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2 hours ago, kalyugi said:

Its just funny that the guy with light yellow turban, got up, did a little ardas and matha tek to Guru sahib, and then went on to start the fight.

This is the Sikh Cultural Society Gurdwara in Richmond Hill, new york.

I would imagine that the Gurus darbar would have Armed Guards. So even an external person ( not a sikh) tried to cause trouble, he would have gotten good shittar right there and then outside the darbar.

But I wonder if Gurus had armed pehredars from 1st to 5th Jot ?

Yeah as if he's getting ashirwaad before going to battle 😤

What about the elderly one without his turban but still holding his coat, does a full circle and runs through the sangat to go to the front again like a kid. 😏🤔. It's not funny what's happened, but that one's like he doing ringa roses 😏. What's wrong with these elders, they seem to be the ones that started it, and the younger ones are confused to how to stop it, like whose who? 

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4 minutes ago, simran345 said:

Yeah as if he's getting ashirwaad before going to battle 😤

"Aayushmaan, putra, aayushmaan!"

One of these days, these guys in the U.S. are going to start spraying bullets over a committee fight. We have our nonsensical fights over the same issues here, but our American cousins are going to take it to the next level.

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The worse bit is, after trying to get blessings, he takes his glasses off and think he goes for the wrong, and then goes for the other one next to him 😏. Oh no wrong number, "tanu nai marna c, sorry". What a flippin joke. 

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If you've noticed, these fights, arguments only occur when there is a lot of sangat or on particular days. Makes you wonder why can't they pick them when there's no sangat or outside of the Gurdwara, what are they trying to prove to sangat? All it takes is a simple meeting and sit round a table. It's a big shame those elders are running around fighting in front of Maharaj ji and making a joke of sangat and of Guruji's home. 

Sangat need to feel safe in the Gurdwara. I can't see the elders doing anything positive, it's the youth that need to put them straight, but they don't like being told do they, because of their egos and think that youth should only respect them. Some of these elders don't want to get out of their stupid fights, but yes this needs to be sorted, as already kids are losing respect of elders, what with the generations changing and it gives the good ones a bad name. 

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56 minutes ago, simran345 said:

If you've noticed, these fights, arguments only occur when there is a lot of sangat or on particular days. Makes you wonder why can't they pick them when there's no sangat or outside of the Gurdwara, what are they trying to prove to sangat? All it takes is a simple meeting and sit round a table. It's a big shame those elders are running around fighting in front of Maharaj ji and making a joke of sangat and of Guruji's home. 

Sangat need to feel safe in the Gurdwara. I can't see the elders doing anything positive, it's the youth that need to put them straight, but they don't like being told do they, because of their egos and think that youth should only respect them. Some of these elders don't want to get out of their stupid fights, but yes this needs to be sorted, as already kids are losing respect of elders, what with the generations changing and it gives the good ones a bad name. 

These fights have always taken place, perhaps due to our lot being uneducated and conflicting views and greed too. 

However because of our technology we are able to capture these live and broadcast them worldwide. 

Elders definitely want to control operations however simple they may be. Two examples I can give is me having an experience with a live argument going on between the satsang group - who was being criticised by a lady when they were actually performing satsang and they were being warned to put all the maya they will get into the golak. 

Another one was a lady who had  a go at me because my dad handed me over the cash for the pathis.

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