Why Muslims should never be trusted

[Guest Jacfsing2]

How come when I expose Pakhandi Babas everyone goes on some tangent, but when someone else exposes them it's perfectly fine? (?)

[genie]

allah and hari,ram,bhagwan,etc of SGGS Ji is not the same as the Hindu and Muslim names for God.

The Allah of Quran is a blood thirsty abrahamic God that has contempt for non-muslims and even if your still a muslim and not of the right muslim sect your going to hellfire.

Hari and other hindu Gods mentioned in SGGS Ji are not literal Gods they are methapors to explain to the hindu converts to Sikhi the stories so they can understand the concepts of the one God.

When Allah is mentioned in SGGS Ji its not the al-lah of profit muhammad its allah metaphor for 1 God.

muhammads meccan pagan tribe used to worship lah (their moon God). And "al" means 'the' in arabic... so they made al-lah meaning 'the God' (of muhammads tribe). Muhammads father was called abdulllah (ab dul lah  meaning slave of al-lah or slave of the mood god). IT is widely acknowledged by muslims of all sects that muhammads father was a strict polytheist meccan pagan... so therefore their God was a pagan god too.

So now that you guys are educated you can inform any hindus or muslims or fellow confused Sikhs about this particular issue and why we dont worship allah of quran or hindu gods we worship our own version of God (waheguru meaning great teacher) but our scriptures refer to their Gods as metaphors.

[genie]

As for not trusting any muslims was from guru ji?..... well that's false.

Guru Gobind Singh Ji stated in zafarnama he wouldn't trust any oath on Quran by Aurangzeb or his foot-soldiers for their and his treachery. But guru Ji didnt say never trust muslim's or their oath on Quran again and nor should Sikhs. He had many muslim's who gave him shelter many muslims who fought for him and fought against him. Every different muslim had their own agenda and Guru Ji knew that you cant blanket label them all untrustworthy.

However we know what kinda stuff abrahmic religions teach jews, muslims and Christians. I would not trust oaths on their scriptures from these 3 groups of people based on their overt missionary or overt discriminatory agenda's towards respective non-believers.

The hindu hill raja kings and various brahmins and other powerful hindus also practiced treachery they also backstabbed Guru ji and got chotay sahibzaday martyred. But again guru Ji didnt say never trust hindus or their word or oath on their vedas/geeta,etc.

End of the day all people of all religion and none will backstab you if they are dishonorable and bad evil people. Just look at the SGPC rulers of past and present, DT's dhumma, Akali Dals Badals and Punjab Congress's captain amrinder singh and KPS Gill.

Any of these so called Sikhs seem people of their word? or power hungry politicians willing to lie and see death and destruction of Sikhs to keep their positions of power.

These people are probably even responsible for Guru Ji's beadhi thats happening in punjab... they wont put CCTV camera's or provide 24/7 security for Guru ji's saroops but will cry and shout about incidents only when people come out on the streets in disgust and fury.

 

[Guest AjeetSinghPunjabi]

8 hours ago, genie said:

As for not trusting any muslims was from guru ji?..... well that's false.

Guru Gobind Singh Ji stated in zafarnama he wouldn't trust any oath on Quran by Aurangzeb or his foot-soldiers for their and his treachery. But guru Ji didnt say never trust muslim's or their oath on Quran again and nor should Sikhs. He had many muslim's who gave him shelter many muslims who fought for him and fought against him. Every different muslim had their own agenda and Guru Ji knew that you cant blanket label them all untrustworthy.

However we know what kinda stuff abrahmic religions teach jews, muslims and Christians. I would not trust oaths on their scriptures from these 3 groups of people based on their overt missionary or overt discriminatory agenda's towards respective non-believers.

The hindu hill raja kings and various brahmins and other powerful hindus also practiced treachery they also backstabbed Guru ji and got chotay sahibzaday martyred. But again guru Ji didnt say never trust hindus or their word or oath on their vedas/geeta,etc.

End of the day all people of all religion and none will backstab you if they are dishonorable and bad evil people. Just look at the SGPC rulers of past and present, DT's dhumma, Akali Dals Badals and Punjab Congress's captain amrinder singh and KPS Gill.

Any of these so called Sikhs seem people of their word? or power hungry politicians willing to lie and see death and destruction of Sikhs to keep their positions of power.

These people are probably even responsible for Guru Ji's beadhi thats happening in punjab... they wont put CCTV camera's or provide 24/7 security for Guru ji's saroops but will cry and shout about incidents only when people come out on the streets in disgust and fury.

 

Jews are not bad IMHO.. Also they don't believe non-jews go to hell.. Wonder how its children religions Islam and christianity are horrible 

[jkvlondon]

On 01/05/2017 at 6:40 AM, AjeetSinghPunjabi said:

Jews are not bad IMHO.. Also they don't believe non-jews go to hell.. Wonder how its children religions Islam and christianity are horrible 

er you have no idea that the horrible language used about non-believers stems from the copying of jewish scriptures , jews refer to non-jews as beasts/cattle etc . for instance films try to be cute and call non-jew girls SHIKSHAs explainig it just mean cute non-jew but:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=shiksa

"The more insulting terms for non-Jews are shiksa (feminine) and shkutz (masculine). I gather that these words are derived from the Hebrew root Shin-Qof-Tzadei, meaning loathsome or abomination. The word shiksa is most commonly used to refer to a non-Jewish woman who is dating or married to a Jewish man, which should give some indication of how strongly Jews are opposed to the idea of intermarriage. The term shkutz is most commonly used to refer to an anti-Semitic man. Both terms can be used in a less serious, more joking way, but in general they should be used with caution."

taken from jewfaq.org

Personally , I was ignored totally by my jewish classmates even though we were in the same classrooms for four years just because they thought whatever they thought - their loss . You cannot generalise there are extreme Jews who do believe they are the chosen , despite what their rabbis may have taught them .

[AbhishekSingh]

On 4/20/2017 at 3:00 AM, ThunderousDominator said:

Amritdharis dont go to mandirs. As for the thread I think making a blanket statement like that is pretty stupid and Guru Gobind Singh Ji never said that ALL muslims should never be trusted. Like it or not there are some muslims who are great human beings ofcourse there also are alot of bad ones(perhaps even out of porportion to other quams except hindus) and we should never forget that but that doesnt mean we become obsessed with them.

When you said,

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Like it or not there are some muslims who are great human beings ofcourse there also are alot of bad ones(perhaps even out of porportion to other quams except hindus)..

you meant all kinds of Muslims exist - good ones and bad ones both. But bad ones are in large proportion, perhaps the largest except Hindus. So you did you mean to say Hindus have the largest proportion of bad people? uh?

[allliberalsrcrazy]

In regards to ideological beliefs the most I will commit to is being a spiritualist, but everything Mahakaal96 is as constant as if the sentiments were inscribed into solid Neutronium, I believe it is noted within the quran 100 to 110 times that all muslims should kill all non-believers whenever and wherever they find them. No muslim can be compelled to lie which means they do so willingly and only to non-believers.

I recall reading about the interrogation of a Barbary pirate captured by U.S. troops during the Barbary war when asked about why they stole from others his response was Allah tells us that non-believers have no rights therefore we can take what we want from them.