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If you want an example to analyse you can't go wrong with our mayor in London UK Sadiq Khan.

in may of 2016:

http://barusahib.org/general/sadiq-khan-londons-new-mayor-makes-promises-to-the-sikhs/

this weekend, after making sangat hang around for an hour he turns up , refuses to go upstairs in Gurdwara , but stays in langar hall then this  :

Sikhs in the UK hand letter to London Mayor Sadiq Khan at Southall Nagar Kirtan (ਸਾਊਥਹਾਲ ਨਗਰ ਕੀਰਤਨ)
~ concerns across Sikh community regarding mixing cultural and religious aspects of separate significance threatens to overshadow Trafalgar Square celebrations

Having visited whilst electioneering as a Mayoral candidate, it was being stated by several committee members that current Mayor of London Sadiq Khan was the first mayor to return after winning an election, when he returned today before the annual Nagar Kirtan, which was delayed due to his late arrival, forcing thousands of members of the community to wait unnecessarily.

If that wasn't bad enough, the claim itself was dubious as Ken livingstone had actually returned to Southall Singh Sabha four times and did Matha Tek as a mark of respect to Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj, which Sadiq Khan did not do.

Instead Khan walked around the Langar Hall and as he was doing so was approached by Sdr Inderjeet Singh, who handed the Mayor of London a letter that outlines the concerns of the UK sikh community.

As the letter was handed to Sadiq Khan, whilst appearing to be initially reluctant to accept the document he then briskly took it and handed it to an aide.

Such perceived arrogance or nonchalance was quickly countered by the former Downing St policy supremo Inderjeet Singh with a firm, "...is that how you respect our community?".

Khan hastened to move away without either addressing, allaying or commenting on the Vaisakhi in the Square event or the concerns expressed.

The letter in full (actual delivered copy in comments):

Dear Mr. Sadiq Khan,

Re: GLA - Vaisakhi Festival 2017

We write to thank you for continuing the Mayor of London’s support to celebrate Vaisakhi, an event that was first started by Ken Livingstone in 2000. However, we are extremely disturbed at the proposed content, as this year’s programme appears to pay little regard to religious values by including an insensitive mix of religious, cultural and commercial entertainment. If this affront to the Sikh nation on its most auspicious religious occasion is not addressed before the event, it will do more damage than good and bring into disrepute a celebration that would otherwise be a joyous celebration and opportunity to promote community cohesion.

We request you to intervene by directing the project team to not have a Vaisakhi programme that has both the cultural and religious significance of Vaisakhi in the same event. As you will be aware from your many visits to Sikh Gurwara’s, Vaisakhi to Sikhs is an event that relates to the most prominent day in the Sikh faith when the “Khalsa Panth” was established by the 10th Guru of the Sikhs (Guru Gobind Singh), in 1699.

The desire of Sikhs that Vaisakhi is not ‘culturalised’ or ‘commercialised’ is no different from the desire of Muslims to keep celebration of Eid holy. Nor is it different from the desire of Christians that Christmas be celebrated as the birth of Christ. We are sure that you will want to do the right thing for all religious and faith communities of London and those of none, in progressing the policies of your administration at City Hall.

For any further information, you and/or your officals may wish to contact us, to make the GLA proposed Vasisakhi Festival in 2017, a great success.

Wishing you and the GLA a happy Vaisakhi.

Signed.

 
 
 
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To be fair your average muslim isn't the lying scheming scumbag that you cant trust completely. I knew many good muslims as I was growing up and I knew many bad muslims. It all depends on how missionary or zealous the muslim is, so if you know they dont give a crap much about their religion then they usually quite reasonable to get along with.

However you should be cautious and on your guard when dealing with one as they are explicitly taught to hate on the non-muslim so are indoctrinated and brainwashed by birth (usually) to do so. Even if they not that religious they will get bullied by their family and friends to "get back on deen" and thats when they start to become extreme in their faith. It doesnt mean they are all like that way inclined but most have a negative view of non-muslims and even muslims of other sects who they view as apostates and heretics.

As for London mayor Mr Khan not going up to bow down to SGGS Ji then that's fair enough we dont expect non-believers to matah tak to Guru Ji just as we wouldnt expect to read out the Kalma of islam.

However the vaisakhi program in trafalgar sq should be purely based on Sikh religious ideology and not a punjabi cultural show with non-sikhs running the show or contributing non-sikh stuff. Just as we wouldnt expect the same for EID festival and the subsequent muslim event they hold putting on non-islamic cultural stuff on.

 

 

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Sadiq Khan is a muppet, after the London Terror attacks his first thought was that no one dare blame Islam, rather than sending out a tweet in support for the poor souls who died he started on about how people are using it to attack Islam....he then deleted the tweet because it got so much hate. 

Utter muppet, if the tories hadn't put up such a moronic candidate he'd have lost. Period.

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1 hour ago, MisterrSingh said:

The way most of you allow that lurking YoYo to talk to you is contemptible. He's obviously bristling with hostility towards Sikhs, and he comes on here throwing his weight around, whilst some of you are, "Brother, brother, brother." What the hell is wrong with you people? 

Spot on. In general sikhs are a very honest, non discriminating, trustworthy & friendly people who treat everyone equal regardless of religion etc... however the rest of humanity is not like that & we need to smarten up.

Muslims are the worst because it is quite simply a part of their belief that everyone is not equal.. and that those who are not Muslim (kafirs) can be lied to, exploited, raped & even killed without the risk of any retribution from god.... there's a reason why Guru Gobind Singh Ji exposed their lieing & deceitful ways at Anandpur Sahib when the Muslim swore oaths on the Koran only to then break them at the first available oppurtunity. Guru Sahib did that to open our eyes & to make us aware.

I urge all my brothers & sisters on this site to be more aware, cautious & extremely careful when having any kind of dealing with any Muslim. It's a testament to the greatness of our Guru that we as a community are very tolerant & respectful towards all... but our Guru also taught us to be budhi maan (of discerning intellect) & raj neetic (politically aware).

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16 minutes ago, Mahakaal96 said:

Spot on. In general sikhs are a very honest, non discriminating, trustworthy & friendly people who treat everyone equal regardless of religion etc... however the rest of humanity is not like that & we need to smarten up.

Muslims are the worst because it is quite simply a part of their belief that everyone is not equal.. and that those who are not Muslim (kafirs) can be lied to, exploited, raped & even killed without the risk of any retribution from god.... there's a reason why Guru Gobind Singh Ji exposed their lieing & deceitful ways at Anandpur Sahib when the Muslim swore oaths on the Koran only to then break them at the first available oppurtunity. Guru Sahib did that to open our eyes & to make us aware.

I urge all my brothers & sisters on this site to be more aware, cautious & extremely careful when having any kind of dealing with any Muslim. It's a testament to the greatness of our Guru that we as a community are very tolerant & respectful towards all... but our Guru also taught us to be budhi maan (of descerning intellect) & raj neetic (politically aware).

Those labouring under certain illusions won't heed the message until they experience the fruits of their folly. The same goes for much of wider society. Sikhs, particularly those from the younger generations in the West, have been disarmed into believing a dangerous lie, and the alarming thing is Sikh teachings have been twisted to promote that lie. The truth as it pertains to the reality of Muslims and their beliefs is no secret. If some of our own choose to cling to the "Not All Muslims" narrative, or, "I knew some cool Muslims back in the day" method of dealing with the threat before their eyes by refusing to acknowledge such a threat exists, then all i can say is "good luck" because they'll need it; lots of it. 

I don't wish ill upon the average Muslim. I'm a compassionate and tolerant person by default. That doesn't mean I'm going to bury my hand into a nest of vipers and hope they don't bite. 

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1 hour ago, MisterrSingh said:

Those labouring under certain illusions won't heed the message until they experience the fruits of their folly. The same goes for much of wider society. Sikhs, particularly those from the younger generations in the West, have been disarmed into believing a dangerous lie, and the alarming thing is Sikh teachings have been twisted to promote that lie. The truth as it pertains to the reality of Muslims and their beliefs is no secret. If some of our own choose to cling to the "Not All Muslims" narrative, or, "I knew some cool Muslims back in the day" method of dealing with the threat before their eyes by refusing to acknowledge such a threat exists, then all i can say is "good luck" because they'll need it; lots of it. 

I don't wish ill upon the average Muslim. I'm a compassionate and tolerant person by default. That doesn't mean I'm going to bury my hand into a nest of vipers and hope they don't bite. 

agreed , That's why where I can see troubling changes in my child's school I've put heads together with other non-muslim parent friends to put my name into the hat for the opening of parent governer. Waheguru willing we will succeed in getting representation ... I extended a hand of friendship to all others but it is clear that there a  main contingent teaching their kids to be nasty little s&*%s to non-muslims, it is these muslim boys who pick on my daughter and the muslim girls who reject her getting their little gangs of followers to also pick on her and other non-muslims. At one point she started to believe that there was something wrong with herself that's why they are behaving like that, so I put her straight that there are nasty people in the world too and these kids have been taught to be mean. Frankly , there is no comparison to friends back in the day and the current self-entitled proudly unpard madams and sirs these lot are  scum and proud of it.

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1 hour ago, jkvlondon said:

agreed , That's why where I can see troubling changes in my child's school I've put heads together with other non-muslim parent friends to put my name into the hat for the opening of parent governer. Waheguru willing we will succeed in getting representation ... I extended a hand of friendship to all others but it is clear that there a  main contingent teaching their kids to be nasty little s&*%s to non-muslims, it is these muslim boys who pick on my daughter and the muslim girls who reject her getting their little gangs of followers to also pick on her and other non-muslims. At one point she started to believe that there was something wrong with herself that's why they are behaving like that, so I put her straight that there are nasty people in the world too and these kids have been taught to be mean. Frankly , there is no comparison to friends back in the day and the current self-entitled proudly unpard madams and sirs these lot are  scum and proud of it.

Sikhs are particularly incredibly foolish when it comes to creating contingencies for the future, or even imagining a host of scenarios that could play out based on what we know to be true in the here and now.

We are a people that exist purely in the present, which is quite alarming considering the foresight and depth of our scriptures that repeatedly impress upon us about the need for considering what is yet to come. Some of it is based on naievity, whilst I'm certain the rest is a form of wilfull delusion steeped in a fear of making tough, unpopular calls. 

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