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2 hours ago, Guest Jagsaw_Singh said:

Was it an attack to kill brar or simply a message to him and india that we haven't forgotten? Brar and the media blew the minor scuffle way out of proportion. I don't think they intended on taking his life...

They did want to take his life. We are going to take badla. We can't just sit here and allow ourselves to get dragged around. I respect them for attempting it but as Jagsaw veerji said they should keep their kirpans sharp all the time. They should've taken his life because we need to finish people like him who do beadbi on a LARGE scale. Guruji gave us Shastar for a reason, whats the point if we can't even use them? Jai Tegang! Sada Jai Sada Jai Sada Jai Bhagauti! As kirpan khando kharag tupak thabar ar teer yehe hamare peer!

2 hours ago, Guest Jagsaw_Singh said:

Re the 'Update on Sikhs in UK jails' thread on the main page :

Read the Court transcripts. They tried to do him and had the time to do him and indeed made a real hard and prolonged attempt at his throat but.............their Kirpans were blunt.  If we collectively learn any lesson from this episode it is the fact that having a blunt kirpan (which 95% of Amritdharis have) which is as useful as a toy sword from the dollar store is an insult to it and makes a mockery of why Guru ji made it a part of our body.

I agree with you. I also respect my brothers and sister who had the guts to stand up.

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As kirpan khando kharag tupak thabar ar teer saif sarohi sethi yehe hamare peer!

Sorry its my mistake I didn't proofread.

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i feel sorry for them but do not support what they wanted to do.... 

an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind..

lets hope waheguru will forgive there mistakes regardless of intentions...

Purely out of curiosity why don't you support them for what they did? What about what they did to us in 1984? You think they will get away with it? We have to be sipahi as well as a sant. If Guru Ji was here in 1984 they would have made sure that every sikh had 5 Shastar on them all the time as a BARE MINIMUM. Nowadays we only carry one and we can't even be bothered to sharpen it. Also Guru Ji would have made sure that NO-ONE who helped Indra Gandhi remained alive. They need to be taught a lesson. Even Bhai Jagraj (who we all trust) said that nowadays many Sikhs say that: "Oh Sikhs don't take revenge..but that's false, Sikhs do take revenge Guru Gobind Singh Ji tok revenge for the shaheedi of his chote sahibzaade" But then tell me why when the Chote Sahibzaade were shaheed in Sirhand why did Guru Gobind Singh Ji tell Baba Banda Singh Bahadur to destroy Sirhand and make sure that even no two bricks were stuck together? Sikhs DO take badla and its in our ithihaas. When Bhai Mani Singh Ji was shaheed his nephew killed the jalaad (correct me if I'm wrong). We should be supporting what they did. Guruji took badla for his Chote Sahibzaade which were his sons. So you think that all those people who gave shaheedi in 1984 aren't our family? The Sangat is my family. It pains me when one if my sisters or brothers get hurt. Sorry if I came across as angry in this post, it is deep in my heart and I am very emotional about topics like this.

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Hmm... so attempting to kill is the right way of bringing so called light to the world?

Intresting.....

Guru did say that those who stand in the way of righteousness in a violent manner finish them. Why are people forgetting that we are warriors as well as sants? So if you saw someone being kidnapped would you just stand there and refuse to help? I know what I would do, I would help that person regardless if I had to give up my life. At least if Guruji asked me when I died what I did in my life then I can say that I died whilst stopping some kidnappers. I don't want a death in sleep or on a sofa, I want to die as per gurbani. If I die whilst helping another person then I will consider myself to be immensely blessed. We need to wake up and see that people are not who they make out to be. Some people are secretly against Sikhi whilst some are blatantly against Sikhi.  We need to wake up and see that this world is not as it seems, it is called Kalyug for a reason.

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Re the 'Shepherds Bush Gurdwara' thread on the main page:

There's 2 important Gurdware in west London that are totally 100% controlled by Indian govt agents via their proxy urban (Delhi) businessmen dominated committees: Shepherds Bush and Hounslow Singh Sabha. But i digress because my main purpose is of course to talk about history. From that point of view Shepherds Bush Gurdwara, as Britain's oldest Gurdwara, is interesting because it's not actually in Shepherds Bush. It's not even in the same Borough as it's in the Royal Borough of Kensington & Chelsea rather than Hammersmith & Fulham. But we all still collectively and affectionately call it the Shepherds Bush Gurdwara. The original Shepherds Bush Gurdwara....the one that our grandparents and shaheed udham singh went to was of course in Shepherds Bush proper (sinclair road). When the gurdwara relocated to it's present site and the sangat reached there each Sunday from their homes in west london and mostly east london on the tube, they would embark at Shepherds Bush station and make the very short walk to the Gurdwara. Back then, before the slum clearance, there was no flyover and massive ring road and so the Gurdwara was indeed for all intents and purposes in Shepherds Bush. So there you go...Shepherds Bush Gurdwara, even though it isn't in Shepherds Bush, will always be Shepherds Bush in the hearts and minds of the Sikhs because it is an essential part of our history in the UK.

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