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On 3/31/2017 at 11:51 PM, Akalifauj said:

Ranjit singh is a child.  He has no critical thinking skills.  Anyone who reads Gurbani can see through his false show.  He uses other peoples achievements to make money.  He acts humble but anyone would ask the question, for all these years you knew nothing and now you are learning about sikhi?  Any person with integrity would tell him to get off of the stage and become learned before stepping back on the stage.  He's playing games with the sangat.  The Singhs in his jatha if they are the sons of Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji should deliver him a message he never forgets and set him straight.

Dandrianwala has shown that he is too easy to manipulate and influence.  It's one thing if chalak people like gandhpreet are able to influence him. But many of his chellas think of him as infallible some even think he is Sant ji reborn. So anything he says will be considerd 100% truth. At least people like Nirvair Khalsa Jatha who are affiliated with him should try to talk to him.

 

Even if he realises he is wrong and repents, he is also getting threats by heretics like harjinder dilgeer who said that since he has greatly helped him he expects dandrianwala to stay strong in  his recent (heretical) views or else he will come to regret it.

Here is his post on face book.

ਖ਼ਬਰਾਂ ਆ ਰਹੀਆਂ ਹਨ ਕਿ ਸ਼੍ਰੋਮਣੀ ਕਮੇਟੀ ਦੇ ਕੁਝ ਏਜੰਟ ਭਾਈ ਰਣਜੀਤ ਸਿੰਘ ਢੱਡਰੀਆਂਵਾਲਾ ਅਤੇ ਅਮਰੀਕ ਅਜਨਾਲਾ (ਤੇ ਸਾਧ ਟੋਲਾ ਤੇ ਸ਼੍ਰੋਮਣੀ ਕਮੇਟੀ) ਵਿਚਕਾਰ ਸਮਝੌਤਾ ਕਰਵਾਉਣ ਦੀ ਕੋਸ਼ਿਸ਼ ਕਰ ਰਹੇ ਹਨ। 

ਸਾਡਾ ਭਾਈ ਰਣਜੀਤ ਸਿੰਘ ਨੂੰ  ਮਸ਼ਵਰਾ ਹੈ ਕਿ ਸਾਡੇ ਉਸ ਨਾਲ ਕਈ ਨੁਕਤਿਆਂ 'ਤੇ ਵਖਰੇ ਵਿਚਾਰ ਹਨ, ਪਰ ਇਸ ਦੇ ਬਾਵਜੂਦ ਅਸੀਂ ਉਸ ਦੀ ਡਟ ਕੇ ਮਦਦ ਕੀਤੀ ਹੈ। ਉਸ ਨੂੰ ਸੱਚ 'ਤੇ ਡਟ ਕੇ ਖੜ੍ਹੇ ਹੋਣਾ ਚਾਹੀਦਾ ਹੈ। 

ਜੇ ਉਹ ਥਿੜਕ ਗਿਆ ਜਾਂ ਡਰ ਗਿਆ ਤੇ ਅੰਦਰੋ-ਅੰਦਰੀਂ ਬੇਅਸੂਲਾ ਸਮਝੌਤਾ ਕਰ ਲਿਆ ਤਾਂ ਅਸੀਂ ਇਸ ਨੂੰ ਇਹਸਾਨ-ਫ਼ਰਾਮੋਸ਼ੀ ਸਮਝਾਂਗੇ। ਇਹ ਉਸ ਵਾਸਤੇ ਬਹੁਤ ਘਾਟੇ-ਵੰਦਾ ਰਹੇਗਾ। 

ਪਰ ਜੇ ਉਹ ਸੱਚ 'ਤੇ ਖੜ੍ਹਾ ਰਿਹਾ ਤਾਂ ਅਸੀਂ ਸਭ 100% ਉਸ ਦਾ ਸਾਥ ਦੇਵਾਂਗੇ।

 

By that I can only assume this threat will mean a propaganda war like how they used to do with him before gandhpreet influenced him

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Does anyone remember a time long, long ago, in a galaxy far, far away, when Sant Dhadrianwale used to preach Sikhism?

In that foregone time, missionaries used to hate him ever so much, because here's a popular, photogenic, young preacher who is telling people to partake of Khanda-Amrit and do Nitnem, etc.

These days, however, when Sant Ji preaches that there are no Jam Doot (agents of the King of Justice), he is beloved of the missionaries. These days missionaries don't rake up that famous video in which Sant Ji is seated on a bed with some of his followers or family coming to pay obeisance, and touching his feet. Nor do they condemn his colorful and shiny attire. His round turbans no longer bother the missionaries, nor his cholas.

He used to be mocked as ਘੱਗਰੀਆਂ ਵਾਲਾ (the one of the skirts). Now he's ਭਾਈ ਰਣਜੀਤ ਸਿੰਘ ਢੱਡਰੀਆਂਵਾਲਾ.

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2 hours ago, BhForce said:

Does anyone remember a time long, long ago, in a galaxy far, far away, when Sant Dhadrianwale used to preach Sikhism?

In that foregone time, missionaries used to hate him ever so much, because here's a popular, photogenic, young preacher who is telling people to partake of Khanda-Amrit and do Nitnem, etc.

These days, however, when Sant Ji preaches that there are no Jam Doot (agents of the King of Justice), he is beloved of the missionaries. These days missionaries don't rake up that famous video in which Sant Ji is seated on a bed with some of his followers or family coming to pay obeisance, and touching his feet. Nor do they condemn his colorful and shiny attire. His round turbans no longer bother the missionaries, nor his cholas.

He used to be mocked as ਘੱਗਰੀਆਂ ਵਾਲਾ (the one of the skirts). Now he's ਭਾਈ ਰਣਜੀਤ ਸਿੰਘ ਢੱਡਰੀਆਂਵਾਲਾ.

That is the irony of this situation. The whole heretic movement of Kala Afghanists and missionaries was his biggest enemy right before the beadbi protests. Now he is their poster child and they are trying to promote him as some kind of a living martyr.

 

Like Darshan Rogi, Dandrianwala has also ruined his spiritual jeevan.  His recent statement in regards to Bhora Sahib shows he no longer believes in Simran and meditation on Naam. 

 

He has completely lost all support from Taksals, akj, nihangs groups and these are the people he should have tried to get panthic unity with instead of the heretics he is cozying up with now.

 

If he continues with these manmat views he will eventually then be sidelined as Darshan Rogi has been in the Panth.

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Wasn't Ranjit in the business of Pakhandi Babas in the last decade's or something? He used to wear a Kalgi from rumors, (don't know if that's true), and he allowed people doing Mehta Tekhan to him, (this is true and undeniable fact). I think he misses the business you used to get or has lost the plot from some innocence being corrupted. He's also got to stop speaking against other Sikhs especially on stage; it's one thing that we talk on these forums about certain people, but he's using his mega-influence to divide the Panth.

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9 hours ago, Jonny101 said:

That is the irony of this situation. The whole heretic movement of Kala Afghanists and missionaries was his biggest enemy right before the beadbi protests. Now he is their poster child and they are trying to promote him as some kind of a living martyr.

The fact that the missionaries are now supporting Sant Dhadrianwale just shows how hypocritical they are.

They used to (and still do) condemn traditional Sikh garb as bhekhi. But since Dhadrianwale now touts their line, they don't mention it in regards to him. He can wear all the cholas and round turbans and chand-toras he wants.

They used to make fun and condemn "sant-style" singing of made-up lines (as opposed to pure Gurbani). But that's only when someone like Sant Isher Singh is singing something like "Naam jap lo nasiban valio" or "Mukh ujle ho gay ji Guran da nam jap ke". But not when the guy singing it is saying Bhagti is not a part of Sikhism. 

If Sant Dhadrianwale were still telling people to recite the Name, they would be condemning his having two Singhs wave two different Chaur Sahibs (and peacock as opposed to yak Chaurs) as made-up maryada. But not now.

It just goes to show they have no firm stance on maryada. Their carping on maryada is just a cudgel to beat Sikhs up with.

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15 hours ago, Jonny101 said:

Dandrianwala has shown that he is too easy to manipulate and influence.  It's one thing if chalak people like gandhpreet are able to influence him. But many of his chellas think of him as infallible some even think he is Sant ji reborn. So anything he says will be considerd 100% truth. At least people like Nirvair Khalsa Jatha who are affiliated with him should try to talk to him.

That will never happen. They worship him; quite literally in a few cases. Their modus operandi depends on them being beneath his overall control. No BRS, no plum overseas parchaar tours for them. Think of it like a franchised business such as a fast food chain. They'd never pull up the boss to put him straight.

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From Gurpreet Singh California's facebook page

 

ਪਟਾਕਾ ਕਬਿੱਤ

ਭਾਈ ਰਣਜੀਤ ਸਿੰਘ ਝੂਠ ਕੌ ਬਣਾ ਕੇ ਸਾਚ, ਭੋਲੀ ਭਾਲੀ ਸੰਗਤ ਕੋ ਪੁੱਠੇ ਰਾਹਿ ਪਾਵਤਾ॥
ਤੇਗ ਕੇ ਬਹਾਦਰ ਸੋ ਹਿੰਦ ਕੀ ਹੈ ਚਾਦਰ ਜੋ; ਕੀਆ ਨਾਹੀ ਤੱਪ ਭੋਰੇ, ਬੈਣ ਰਹੇ ਗਾਵਤਾ॥
ਮਹਿੰਗਾ ਗਿਰੰਥ ਲਿਖਿਆ ਕਵੀ ਸੰਤੋਖ ਸਿੰਘ; ਸੂਰਜ ਪ੍ਰਕਾਸ਼ ਕੋ ਭੀ ਝੂਠ ਹੀ ਬਤਾਵਤਾ॥
ਅਸੰਤ ਏਹ ਢੱਡਰੀ ਕਾ ਪੜ੍ਹਿਆ ਕੀਤੋਂ ਭੀ ਨਾਹੀਂ, ਖਾਲਸੇ ਮੇ ਨਿੱਤ ਰੋਜ ਵਾਦ ਹੈ ਵਧਾਵਤਾ॥

ਚਉਪਈ॥

ਕਹੇ ਇਤਹਾਸ ਬੰਦਿਆਂ ਦਾ ਲਿਖਿਆ॥
ਮੈ ਕਿਉ ਮਾਨੂ ਇਹ ਹੈ ਸਬ ਮਿਥਿਆ॥

ਗੁਰ ਅਵਤਾਰ ਦੇਹ ਧਾਰ ਹੀ ਆਵੈਂ॥
ਦੇਹੀ ਧਾਰ ਬਾਣੀ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਪ੍ਰਗਟਾਵੈਂ॥

ਢਡਰੀ ਭੀ ਤੋ ਮਾਤਾ ਕਾ ਜਾਇਆ॥
ਇਹ ਭੀ ਤੋਂ ਗਰਭ ਜੂਨੀ ਆਇਆ॥

ਇਹ ਸਭ ਇਸ ਕੀ ਮੂਰਖਤਾਈ॥
ਸਾਕਤ ਇਸਕੀ ਬੁਧ ਉਲਟਾਈ॥

ਦੋਹਰਾ॥

ਰਣਜੀਤ ਸਿੰਘ ਢਡਰੀਆਂ ਕਾ, ਅਪਨਾ ਹੀ ਪੰਥ ਚਲਾਇ॥
ਅਕਾਲ ਪੁਰਖ ਬਲਵਾਨ ਜੋ, ਖਿਨ ਮਹਿ ਇਸੇ ਖਪਾਇ॥

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