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SIKH WOMEN GATHER AT MAI BHAGO RETREAT


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1 hour ago, MisterrSingh said:

Anyone else notice where these emergent trends will end? 

I wish @singhbj singh would end all this forum trolling today. @OP, you aren't winning popularity points doing this, you already lost a few popularity points for that Singhni in Dastars Thread

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24 minutes ago, Jacfsing2 said:

I wish @singhbj singh would end all this forum trolling today. @OP, you aren't winning popularity points doing this, you already lost a few popularity points for that Singhni in Dastars Thread

I wonder what criteria he uses to decide which of his thread titles deserves to be posted in all capital letters as opposed to lower case.

Tomorrow will probably see a thread called, "SIKH WOMEN LEAVE MAI BHAGO RETREAT" followed by a final thread on Monday, "SOME SIKH WOMEN GET LOST ON THE WAY HOME FROM MAI BHAGO RETREAT."

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whilst I agree that sikh women need to exchange ideas and refocus on sikhi , I do not think creating some kind of elitist group is going to be helpful .Our ancestors shared and did vichar in their lives , whilst doing the daily stuff and still had time to create sangat. either create an open network to support everyone or call it like it is , a 'pat ourselves on the back' gang.

there is a saying in english 'self-praise is no recommendation'  Guru ji says it much better 'whosoever calls themselves good, good never comes near'

 

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29 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

whilst I agree that sikh women need to exchange ideas and refocus on sikhi , I do not think creating some kind of elitist group is going to be helpful .Our ancestors shared and did vichar in their lives , whilst doing the daily stuff and still had time to create sangat. either create an open network to support everyone or call it like it is , a 'pat ourselves on the back' gang.

there is a saying in english 'self-praise is no recommendation'  Guru ji says it much better 'whosoever calls themselves good, good never comes near'

 

I'm glad someone's noticed that this has the potential to be the beginning of quite a concerning issue. I won't say much more because coming from a male it seems like I'm being negative about an innocuous gathering of female Sikhs. It's probably nothing. I do think the gradual creep of a certain contemporary western ideology into some Sikh circles, is an interesting development.

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37 minutes ago, HarkiranKaur said:

Why is it that positive gatherings like this make Singh's nervous? 

What exactly IS the ideal Sikh woman to you all?

a meek obedient housewife making your rotia, doing your laundry and leaving all the religious duties to men and blindly following what the men tell her to do as she sees herself as subordinate to you. 

or

a strong self willed woman (who still values her family) but instead of hiding behind men at any chance of danger is willing to fight alongside you like Mai Bhago? She leads in prayer and nitnem, alongside you. Sure she might expect you to do your share of dishes and diaper changes but together you are stronger because instead of a subordinate she is your equal. 

I do not think the second option has anything to do at all with western feminism. And what one do you REALLY want in your life?? 

Why do a group of Kaur's getting together to speak about their place in sikhi as equals scare you anyway?

You are not a woman,  did you forget you said you are only a soul.

 

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36 minutes ago, HarkiranKaur said:

Why is it that positive gatherings like this make Singh's nervous? 

What exactly IS the ideal Sikh woman to you all?

a meek obedient housewife making your rotia, doing your laundry and leaving all the religious duties to men and blindly following what the men tell her to do as she sees herself as subordinate to you. 

or

a strong self willed woman (who still values her family) but instead of hiding behind men at any chance of danger is willing to fight alongside you like Mai Bhago? She leads in prayer and nitnem, alongside you. Sure she might expect you to do your share of dishes and diaper changes but together you are stronger because instead of a subordinate she is your equal. 

I do not think the second option has anything to do at all with western feminism. And what one do you REALLY want in your life?? 

Why do a group of Kaur's getting together to speak about their place in sikhi as equals scare you anyway?

Let me tell you; you are lucky not to be a Subcontinental from your family; and people loosening what they want for diversity. Also don't talk about Rishtas like it's buying some new pair of jeans; there is so much involved than just the husband's opinion; this only helps that you probably didn't have an arranged marriage like most people do. Also women shouldn't be Punj Pyare if that's what they mean by equality, a Sikh woman can already do everything a man can except that; there is no ithias of this during Guru Sahib first preparing Amrit with the Khanda, also women never prepared Charan Pahul either even though Guru Sahib gave it equally to men and women. If a woman doesn't know she can't be Punj Pyare; then by what standard could we call her religious? Go ask an Taksali Kaur and she won't complain once on Punj Pyare for women.

 

If there is any other reason to fight for so-called gender quality in Sikhi; then I would let them do what they want, but the moment they say Sikhi should adjust for that; then I'm going to have to say ?!

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5 hours ago, HarkiranKaur said:

Why is it that positive gatherings like this make Singh's nervous? 

What exactly IS the ideal Sikh woman to you all?

a meek obedient housewife making your rotia, doing your laundry and leaving all the religious duties to men and blindly following what the men tell her to do as she sees herself as subordinate to you. 

or

a strong self willed woman (who still values her family) but instead of hiding behind men at any chance of danger is willing to fight alongside you like Mai Bhago? She leads in prayer and nitnem, alongside you. Sure she might expect you to do your share of dishes and diaper changes but together you are stronger because instead of a subordinate she is your equal. 

I do not think the second option has anything to do at all with western feminism. And what one do you REALLY want in your life?? 

Why do a group of Kaur's getting together to speak about their place in sikhi as equals scare you anyway?

you clearly got feminism-mania or some twisted chromosomes.

All you do is try to separate woman and men in sikhi with a bigger divide. On top of that>> you have serious ego issues> as you never answer a queston but continue ranting your same rant. Maybe you should go on the ellen show to get some support.

Men have roles>> Women have roles>> end of story. No on says anything about one being higher than the other>>except you.

 

 

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