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'The Far Right will be holding a rally on same day as the Nagar Kirtan in Edinburgh'

(Please tag anyone you know from Scotland to make them aware)

It has been brought to our attention that the National Front and Scotland Defence League will be holding a 'White Pride' march on the 25th March in Edinburgh. 

The march will coincide with a Nagar Kirtan (procession) being held on the same day by the Sikh community who will be celebrating Vaisakhi - the birth of their Nation. 

We have no objection to the NF or SDL holding a peaceful rally celebrating their race so to speak, although we believe in and practice that ALL are equal regardless of ones race, caste, creed and status etc, they however, still have the right to a peaceful rally.

The Sikhs are a peaceful, hard working and a well integrated community that have contributed greatly to the life, culture, economy and fabric of Scotland. 

Thus we are confident that the Scottish authorities along with the Scottish Gurdwaras and Sangat will treat this matter with the utmost importance and sit together to reach an amicable solution ensuring no disruption or disorder transpires.

Furthermore, we have full faith that the Scottish people will standby and work with the Sikh community and authorities to ensure that this is the case.

Solidarity is our strength. 

Yours Sincerely, 

Sikh Community

 

Source - https://www.facebook.com/160796724131098/photos/pcb.623355677875198/623350897875676/?type=3

 

 

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Duplicate thread. You've already posted it yesterday.

 

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3 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:

Duplicate thread. You've already posted it yesterday.

 

The Sikh PA are the voice of Sikh right wing fascists.. 

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12 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:

Never heard of them.

north of the border probably why. You get nutters everywhere ... they seem to like to hang out together  wonder why, safety in numbers ??

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12 hours ago, Sukhvirk76 said:

The Sikh PA are the voice of Sikh right wing fascists.. 

actually it was a bulletin from a sikh youth project in Scotland ...nothing to do with Sikh PA , you feeling alright?

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5 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

north of the border probably why. You get nutters everywhere ... they seem to like to hang out together  wonder why, safety in numbers ??

I've genuinely never heard a peep about them from anyone. Scotland's pretty inclusive and welcoming for Sikhs, isn't it? 

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1 minute ago, MisterrSingh said:

I've genuinely never heard a peep about them from anyone. Scotland's pretty inclusive and welcoming for Sikhs, isn't it? 

yeah they get rowdy on a saturday night and shout stuff like 'I love you ...you know even though you're a paki' 

hahaha , Scots the punjabis of Europe totally harmless just like their drink a bit too much.

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3 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

actually it was a bulletin from a sikh youth project in Scotland ...nothing to do with Sikh PA , you feeling alright?

Thank you for asking, feeling pretty skippity do!

But they were referenced above and even if they weren't as a standalone statement I stand by it. 

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18 hours ago, Sukhvirk76 said:

The Sikh PA are the voice of Sikh right wing fascists.. 

That's news to me considering they were set up by Everythings 13 (Basic's of Sikhi).

They have, however, done their job and put some information up on their site:

http://sikhpa.com/statements-on-white-pride-march-and-sikh-religious-festival-clash/

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2 hours ago, Sukhvirk76 said:

Yes and your point being 

Point being, you're off your pills.

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1 hour ago, S4NGH said:

Point being, you're off your pills.

Koi sang kar and make some sense! 

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9 hours ago, Sukhvirk76 said:

Yes and your point being 

Nothing, i just like posting random nonsense based on fact on the internet.

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15 hours ago, kcmidlands said:

Nothing, i just like posting random nonsense based on fact on the internet.

' posting random nonsense based on fact' lol says it all really 

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7 hours ago, Sukhvirk76 said:

' posting random nonsense based on fact' lol says it all really 

Ho hum.................

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