Present Sikh leaders dont fight for Sikh principles but for money, power and fame

[StarStriker]

21 hours ago, Sukhvirk76 said:

Are you talking about proselytising and evangelism? These were characteristics of semitic religions ie. islam that guru Nanak Dev Ji rejected outright. . The belief and approach that a person unquestionably accepted and propagated a moral code that was mechanical without substance and manipulated as a tool for exploitation. . Guru sahib said it was our actions as individuals that mattered most... Before everything else. . 

We don't save souls the truth does. .bani expresses the truth. . It is knowledge .. knowledge is gian, is Gurprasad.. 

I'm confused are you suggesting sikhi should become evangelical. ?

tell me a time when sikhs didnt go out and preach their dharam? Guru amardas ji appointed over 50 women parcharaks to spread sikh dharam. Guru hargobind sahib ji appointed sikhs to go to kabul....for wat exactly? To spread sikhi to the muslims there. When guru gobind singh was born, their ol' man, guru tegh bahadur, didnt even see guru ji for 7 of yrs of their life, bcoz they were doin parchar in bengal/orrisa/bihari areas. In recent times, singh sabha lahore, with giani ditt singh, converted mass amounts of hindus/muslims to sikhi, to the point where in the 1920s-partition time sikhi was the fastest growing dharam in greater panjab (birth rates/conversions). Not to mention sant bhindrawale, who converted sways of lapsed sikhs, hindus/muslims and hardcore atheists/communists....

Stop this brainwashed rubbish.

[dallysingh101]

12 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:

So true. The thing is they're entitled to reap the benefits of their hard work, but i laugh when they start dropping pangtia from Gurbani in order to desperately justify their one-track obsession with accumulating as much as they can get their hands on.

It's similar to when a Sikh has an unnatural and excessive liking for wearing and buying gold jewellery, and you remind them that Sikhi doesn't look favourably on the gratuitous indulgence of such vulgarities, and they respond with, "Leh! Sadhe Guru Sahib sohneh toh begher pherdeh si?" And then you remind them that Guru Sahib also sacrificed his father, mother, and four sons, and you ask them if they plan on emulating that aspect of their life, too. Not a peep in response, lol.

You can go even further and remind them of the fact that Guru Gobind Singh ji, when they were a very young Gobind Rai, actually threw their gold bangles into a river explicitly saying they didn't want to be a slave of such things. Or the story of Baba Nanak giving a needle to another money horder asking him to return it to him in his next life - but I'd imagine such people would just go quiet upon hearing these things and carry on the same way.