Khalistanisinghni

The modern day "Kaurs"

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20 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

it was the number that were initiated  on that day according to more than one retelling I read including mughal spy account who became Ajmer Singh , I'm sure the ikatt was bigger but I didn't want to put down something I couldn't be sure of .

Different people gave different figures. We shouldnt get bogged down in that.

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7 minutes ago, chatanga said:

 

Have just  had a look at those comments. the usual rubbish. She has said much worse about Sri Dasme Patshah's Granth Sahib. Each and every opportunity she gets, she is in there doing nindya. And for someone who can't even read basic gurmukhi, she tries to set herself up as some bastion of knowledge on Gurmat.

Nindaks of Maharaj ji's bani and trying to act so smart as to use every opportunity to go against what mahapurkhs say. The bibis are too indulged in this whole idea of equality and sikh panth is therefore lacking great women to look up to. 

 

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30 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

it was the number that were initiated  on that day according to more than one retelling I read including mughal spy account who became Ajmer Singh , I'm sure the ikatt was bigger but I didn't want to put down something I couldn't be sure of .

Bhenji, found some beautiful katha on jeevani of Mata sahib Kaur ji by giani thakur singh ji on gurmatveechar.com, do have a look!

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8 hours ago, californiasardar1 said:

 

Do you lose your age, height and various other personal characteristics?

 

I'm a really stupid person, so please explain to me what you lose and what you retain once you become a khalsa.

sis honestly you should have lost your krodh a long time back it achieves nothing . Your saroop doesn't change beyond looking a part of the khalsa panth , your deh doesn't change but your hirdey should transform immediately to become komal for the cultivating of naam beej .

If others choose to show their stupidity by disrespecting their SIngh by equating him to a horse controlled by reins instead seeing him as their daily sangat and closest friend on the path after Guru ji , we really need to show them that they are becoming what they don't like vile suppressors of  others on the path.

Sikh women should be self-assured by the knowledge that they have been entrusted with the most precious sewa , nurturing,supporting  and getting gursikhs ready . One doesn't arrive at the sanchar without preparation , and that is where a Singhni importance is , like Sheikh Farid's mother nurtured his bhagti we have that immense role . Entrance to the path is a one time deal , but travelling and growing is a constant lifelong thing .

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5 minutes ago, HarkiranKaur said:

Seeing the palla as reins of a horse where the wife is leading her husband is no worse than seeing the palla as a chain leading the wife while the husband is in charge. Neither is in charge over the other. They are ONE. That was my point. I wasn't actually equating it as such but showing how stupid it is to see the husband as being in charge same way. Neither one is in charge or required to be obedient or submissive. They work together as a team and that doesn't mean one leads and one follows. My husband is my absolute soul mate. We journey together as equals. 

And while it's certainly good seva to raise children, to say that women are only meant to raise children and nothing else makes women into valued only for their reproductive tracts and not their own spirituality or ability. And what if a woman can't have children or doesn't want any? She has no value in your eyes??? What r her calling IS to lead in the panth and make a real difference beyond the confines of the house?

your point was lost in your eagerness to score a win in your argument ...If you really believe you are ONE then do you need to be upset about who goes first ? You disrespected sikhi by attaching manmat soch to such a pavitar ceremony and really should have stopped well before .

Did I say women are ONLY meant to produce children ? I didn't even say that they have to give birth , you can nurture Gursikhi in your life partner , in your friends, family members, even general society . If you have no spirituality, no jeevan, no karni  how on Earth are you going to do that ? Do you not believe that our packed lives are not already blessed and complete with the jewel of  Gursikhi ? I don't think I need to be in charge of anything to be complete ... 

I refuse to put down others to elevate myself  this is not a sikh attitude 

 

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30 minutes ago, HarkiranKaur said:

Men put down women openly in order to elevate themselves. Nobody says anything about that.

also why does women's contribution always have to be subtle and behind the lines? Why can't women be leaders in the panth and lead men? What's so wrong with that? Why do we need to only take the 'nurture' role where we nurture someone else's gifts instead of following our own? Men following theirs steps on women's dreams all the time. You will not say anything against that?

Men are the sargun embodiment of Akal Purekh... women are the sargun embodiment of Adh Shakti... which is Akal Purekhs Shakti by which whole of sargun creation manifests itself. When the two come together (shiv-shakti) then creation expands. Adh Shakti has the ability to create but only on the hukam of Akal purekh. When Akal Purekh had a desire to became many from one he first manifested his Shakti (Adh Shakti). His desire to become many from one was manifest by Adh Shakti.

A woman has the ability to create new life when she gives birth but can only do so when a man plants his seed (desire) inside her.

The cosmic play of Akal Purek -Adh Shakti (Shiv-Shakti) has manifested in sargun form in the form of men & women.

You have a lot to learn 

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4 hours ago, HarkiranKaur said:

Seeing the palla as reins of a horse where the wife is leading her husband is no worse than seeing the palla as a chain leading the wife while the husband is in charge.

 

Yet no Sikh male says "I had a chain round my wife as we walked around guru Granth Sahib during the lavan. Yet you.....

 

4 hours ago, HarkiranKaur said:

 What r her calling IS to lead in the panth and make a real difference beyond the confines of the house?

Sikh women have done that in the past and no doubt will do so in the future. No Sikh male stops their wife from doing these.

 

Another trait of hers. talk abut women in the panj pyare sewa. get nowhere, no it's onto having babies and leadership roles.

 

Don't be fooled by her serpent tongue.

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1 hour ago, HarkiranKaur said:

Men put down women openly in order to elevate themselves. Nobody says anything about that.

also why does women's contribution always have to be subtle and behind the lines? Why can't women be leaders in the panth and lead men? What's so wrong with that? Why do we need to only take the 'nurture' role where we nurture someone else's gifts instead of following our own? Men following theirs steps on women's dreams all the time. You will not say anything against that?

Openly? Sikh men? Where ? Tell us where and we will say something about it. Otherwise keep you vague statements to yourself.

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8 hours ago, Akalifauj said:

Why are you guys entertaining this lost cause.  She was causing a mess at Sikh awareness with her illogical posts.  She has a problem.  She has no true knowledge of Gurbani, Sikh history, or writings.  She flaps her arms around hoping someone will pay attention to her.  She has anger issues and self hate.  Remember the cartoons where the cat holds the ticking bomb hoping it won't explode but it does all the time.  She is the cat.  The bomb will go off and she will self destruct. 

I think her husband should talk to her. Unless he is a weak man and can't do it. She is plain stupid. She probably got kicked out of the Christian faith for the same reasons.  There is zero gender equality in this religion if you ask me. She is a LOST CAUSE. I wonder if she has a daily bath.  Reeks of stench, I mean, bad smell; so do her posts!

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2 hours ago, HarkiranKaur said:

Men put down women openly in order to elevate themselves. Nobody says anything about that.

also why does women's contribution always have to be subtle and behind the lines? Why can't women be leaders in the panth and lead men? What's so wrong with that? Why do we need to only take the 'nurture' role where we nurture someone else's gifts instead of following our own? Men following theirs steps on women's dreams all the time. You will not say anything against that?

If a woman is dumb like youself then I don't blame the men. Not so long ago, women in the western countries were considered no more than 'chattels' therefore property of their husbands! They were slaves to be owned by their husbands, in case you have forgotten your history.  Our Gurus removed this mentality right from the start. We have always had women leaders in the Sikh panth and no one stops them from taking up leadership to this day! Where are the women leaders in your birth religion? There are none! God made women to nurture his creation, and not to destroy it, like we see what's happening in the western cultures, where women don't know whether they are men or women! Whether they are coming or going! This is all happening because of how their men want their women to be.  In the Sikh panth men behave like men should and women behave like how women should!  I dread to see the day when Sikh men start behaving like women and vice versa. Their roles are based on how God intended and to change that would be deviant and profane!

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Hey chatanga and dalsingh, I found satkiran from Sikh awareness!

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1 minute ago, Singh123456777 said:

Hey chatanga and dalsingh, I found satkiran from Sikh awareness!

You mean the White (ex Christian) loser also known as the canadiangirl:ehhh:

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2 hours ago, HarkiranKaur said:

Must be nice to be a male in this male privileged religion then huh?zero equality so what are you saying regarding women and please back it up with Gurbani. 

Whats my Hsiang supposed to say? Learn my place beneath men? Won't happen.

Nothing I have said goes against either Gurbani or Sikh Rehet Maryada. 

Don't defame the Sikh dharam with your ex Christian views. The Sikh dharam is based on GENDER EQUALITY.  The 'zero' gender equality ONLY exists in your mind and is eating you away slowly but surely! Watch out and come to your senses before it totally destroys you!  You have said a lot against the sikh dharam offending many on here. I wonder how your husband puts up with your nonsense!

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3 minutes ago, HarkiranKaur said:

You guys can call me loser all you want. Water off a ducks back. Nothing I have said is wrong. Male and female are equal in sikhi and whether you personally believe it or not does not matter. And nothing I said goes against Sikh Rehet Maryada. 

because it says in rehit maryada to never curse at a women (muh phitkarna) or to raise a hand to her, to treat her with utmost satkar does that mean you as a SIKH PRIVILEGED FEMALE use it as a platform to make up stuff to pour hatred and scorn onto your brothers ???
 

Please come off your abrahamic influenced paranoia cloud and live in the real world : has a sikh man said to your face anything other than they believe the panj should be male , for instance, you cannot have amrit, you cannot read Gurbani/take Guru Vaak, go Gurdwara, do sewa, do prakash/sukasan of Guru ji , sing kirtan , learn gurmukhi, do santhiya, learn gatka, or any of the many many different aspects of sewa ?

 

 

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18 minutes ago, HarkiranKaur said:

You guys can call me loser all you want. Water off a ducks back. Nothing I have said is wrong. Male and female are equal in sikhi and whether you personally believe it or not does not matter. And nothing I said goes against Sikh Rehet Maryada. 

The Gurus gave sikh women equality in terms of respect... they were not given complete gender equality which blurs the lines of which role(s) & attributes each gender has been created to fulfill.

Sikh women and men are equal too the point that both were created by Akal Purekh.... that's as far as it goes. The roles & duties for each are seperate & distinct. 

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2 hours ago, HarkiranKaur said:

You guys can call me loser all you want. Water off a ducks back. Nothing I have said is wrong. Male and female are equal in sikhi and whether you personally believe it or not does not matter. And nothing I said goes against Sikh Rehet Maryada. 

Did you desert Christianity because Jesus had only male diciples and there has never been a female Pope ever in the history of the Vatican? What a hypocrite!  You should be solving the problems of gender inequalities within the Christian faith first before attacking and questioning the Sikh dharam which is totally alien to you and of which you have ZERO understanding! 

Besides, it would be 'water off a duck's back' for you, because you are just a plain old thick person who deliberately refuses to learn anything from what others tell her. You are bent upon offending everyone over here similar to what you were doing on other forums too. You are bent upon provoking people for reasons only known to yourself and no one else.

 

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16 minutes ago, Mahakaal96 said:

The Gurus gave sikh women equality in terms of respect... they were not given complete gender equality which blurs the lines of which role(s) & attributes each gender has been created to fulfill.

Sikh women and men are equal too the point that both were created by Akal Purekh.... that's as far as it goes. The roles & duties for each are seperate & distinct. 

Are you saying that on Sikhi men and women have different strengths that compliment each other?

That would mean Akal Purakh has created a balance.

This would make sense as it is line with Sikhi. 

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23 hours ago, HarkiranKaur said:

So tell me why does their gender matter? Does their caste matter? Should we only allow those from the castes who volunteered that day? How about skin colour? Should no white singhs be allowed since no white singh volunteered heir head that day? Why is it only gender matters???? And please use Gurbani to support your answer. 

If Guru Sahib made 5 caste name Singhs then yes but Guru Sahib did NOT. It was 5 Singhs thus it will remain 5 Singhs.

According to your logic you want the gays and the khusre to be allowed Amrit and Anand Karaj because the jot is same and aama is one with Akaal and genderless? Lol

And please use Gurbani to support your answer.

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2 minutes ago, Ranjeet01 said:

Are you saying that on Sikhi men and women have different strengths that compliment each other?

That would mean Akal Purakh has created a balance.

This would make sense as it is line with Sikhi. 

this is also why women were put in parchaariks roles as their komalta and emotional intelligence would help them get the message past people's hardheadedness with prem not confrontation. 

 

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28 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

this is also why women were put in parchaariks roles as their komalta and emotional intelligence would help them get the message past people's hardheadedness with prem not confrontation. 

 

I do agree the female methods of communication can be effective.

There is a youtube clip of Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton played by two actors but Donald Trump was played by a woman with his mannerisms and exact same script and Hillary Clinton played by a man.

A lot of people commented how much more persuaded they were.

https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/29/clinton-trump-gender-swap-play-her-opponent

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1 hour ago, Ranjeet01 said:

Are you saying that on Sikhi men and women have different strengths that compliment each other?

That would mean Akal Purakh has created a balance.

This would make sense as it is line with Sikhi. 

Yes, that's how it is, the whole cosmos is designed perfectly. 

Akal Purekh created Brahma & gave him the ability to create within what Akal Purekh had already created (maya)

Akal Purekh created Vishnu & gave him the duty to preserve what Brahma creates within that which is already created & preserved by him

Akal Purekh created Shiva & gave him the duty to destroy what Brahma created & what Vishnu has been preserving.

As you can see they all have different roles, attributes & duties that they have been assigned... but what is the one thing that makes them all equal?... it's the fact that Akal Purekh created them all that makes them equal but not the same.

Apply this to the whole of creation...including men & women 

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