Singhnis with Dastaar look ugly?

[Khalistanisinghni]

With all due respect to the veers above, was just wondering what do you do if you are a woman, who has taken amrit already. Brahamgyanis of taksal and dals (giani sher singh ji) do not seem to be upset when they see a woman with dastar and shastars (not trying to sound like a feminist) and they preach "amrit shako" to men and women alike. 

[jkvlondon]

1 hour ago, Khalistanisinghni said:

With all due respect to the veers above, was just wondering what do you do if you are a woman, who has taken amrit already. Brahamgyanis of taksal and dals (giani sher singh ji) do not seem to be upset when they see a woman with dastar and shastars (not trying to sound like a feminist) and they preach "amrit shako" to men and women alike. 

also nirmaley have women vidhvaans training under them so the whole thing of not speaking to /keeping company with males other than own family, not reading Guru ji in company seems to go out of the window. 

nearly all the mahapurakhs barring Takht Hazoor sahib dals gave Khande bate di amrit to female equally from  the start of past century until now , My Mum had khande di bata as a young school girl from klaren wale sant Isher Singh ji (chotte) her rehit was just as a man's .There was a dastar rehit for bibian at akal takht as my bazurg at the turn of the century as they too were given khande di amrit and this is noted in history as an action had to be taken to remove TEMPORARILY that requirement for women supposedly to encourage women to take amrit . 

so with a heavy heart I asked Guru ji for help with this issue here is Guruvaak:

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pRBwqI mhlw 1 ]

 

Prabhaatee, First Mehla:

 

AMimRqu nIru igAwin mn mjnu ATsiT qIrQ sMig ghy ]

 

One who bathes in the Ambrosial Water of spiritual wisdom takes with him the virtues of the sixty-eight sacred shrines of pilgrimage.

 

gur aupdyis jvwhr mwxk syvy isKu suo Koij lhY ]1]

 

The Guru's Teachings are the gems and jewels; the Sikh who serves Him searches and finds them. ||1||

 

gur smwin qIrQu nhI koie ]

 

There is no sacred shrine equal to the Guru.

 

sru sMqoKu qwsu guru hoie ]1] rhwau ]

 

The Guru encompasses the ocean of contentment. ||1||Pause||

 

guru drIAwau sdw jlu inrmlu imilAw durmiq mYlu hrY ]

 

The Guru is the River, from which the Pure Water is obtained forever; it washes away the filth and pollution of evil-mindedness.

 

siqguir pwieAY pUrw nwvxu psU pryqhu dyv krY ]2]

 

Finding the True Guru, the perfect cleansing bath is obtained, which transforms even beasts and ghosts into gods. ||2||

 

rqw sic nwim ql hIAlu so guru prmlu khIAY ]

 

He is said to be the Guru, with the scent of sandalwood, who is imbued with the True Name to the bottom of His Heart.

 

jw kI vwsu bnwspiq saurY qwsu crx ilv rhIAY ]3]

 

By His Fragrance, the world of vegetation is perfumed. Lovingly focus yourself on His Feet. ||3||

 

gurmuiK jIA pRwn aupjih gurmuiK isv Gir jweIAY ]

 

The life of the soul wells up for the Gurmukh; the Gurmukh goes to the House of God.

 

gurmuiK nwnk sic smweIAY gurmuiK inj pdu pweIAY ]4]6]

 

The Gurmukh, O Nanak, merges in the True One; the Gurmukh attains the exalted state of the self. ||4||6||

 

 

[Akalifauj]

8 hours ago, Khalistanisinghni said:

With all due respect to the veers above, was just wondering what do you do if you are a woman, who has taken amrit already. Brahamgyanis of taksal and dals (giani sher singh ji) do not seem to be upset when they see a woman with dastar and shastars (not trying to sound like a feminist) and they preach "amrit shako" to men and women alike. 

Poster mahakaal doesn't know what he is saying.  There are other written documents of what happened on 1699 when Amrit was given.  Bhai Jeevan Singh ji in Sri Guru katha tells the events as most people know it today.  Bhai sahib was there and took Amrit that same day. Also baba Binod singh ji, jathedar of Buddha dal also tells the same events in Gurpur Parkash.  

When these women haters are asked why they can't provide reasons and when they do it show how illiterate they are on Sikh history, Gurbani, and writings.  If I can get my hands on bhai jeevan singhs writings I will post it on the forum. 

[Kira]

The Rehitnamas are dubious in many cases,I'm 100% sure that any Rehitnama given by Guru Sahib should be treated akin to an order. That being said, many texts were corrupted for various political agendas, Sau Sakhis were corrupted by Namdharis (?) and followers of Ranjit Singh (the maharaja), it wouldn't be a stretch to say that the original could easily be lost in time and people are babbling on about a corrupted one. We can't validate any of these as we don't have the original Rehitnama in Gurmukhi (i.e on parchment and ink so to speak) to compare and see where the corruptions were added. Further more the translation from 1900s would be an extremely volatile asset to the government and the anti-sikh elements surfacing. For example, there was the whole fiasco of not letting some so called "castes" take Amrit as it was a sin (iirc). If people are going to argue History then look at the full picture rather than just from 1 angle. 

 

 

From the autobiography of Bhai Sahiib Bhai Randir Singh Ji, he meets with an amritdhari woman whom he respects and looks up to immensely. If there was any anti-rehit going on, he of all people would have spoken up. Yet he never did.

 

 

 

Rangle Sajjan also notes about man and woman being baptised both by Khande Da Amrit. Bhai Sahib Ji was a Gurmukh of the highest level of Brahmgyan, yet he never once said it was anti-gurmat to have woman being baptised. So the question again is, Why would or should this Rehitnama hold, its Historical accuracy is Dubious at best and it completely contradicts every core pillar of Sikhism.

 

There is a reference to Mai Gulab Kaur in the letters. I made inquiries about her from Bhakta Duna Sing of Abbottabad who asked Bhai Narain Singh bookseller of Abbottabad to acquire the details of her life. It is learnt that Mai Gulab Kaur was born in Village Burhan in Campblpur district in the year 1920. She was the daughter of Bhai Dargha Mai, a sehajdhari Sikh and devotee of the Guru. She was married at the age of fifteen to one Bhai Des Raj of Haripur in 1935. The couple stayed in Sohewale Mohalla in Haripur. She had one son and two daughters. Ten years before her death, her husband died; Mai Gulab Kaur died some time in the year 1909‐10. She spent the last ten years of her life in a state of spiritual intoxication. Bhai Sahib Randhir Singh says that when he met her, she wore a kach, and wrapped her body in a blanket. She was amritdhari (baptised) and lived strictly according to the Khalsa code of conduct, but it is not known when and where she was baptised. At Haripur people called her Gulato, the mad woman. The Muslims revered her as a great saint, and respected her more than the Hindus and Sikhs

 

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There is a reference to Mai Gulab Kaur in the letters. I made inquiries about her from Bhakta Duna Sing of Abbottabad who asked Bhai Narain Singh bookseller of Abbottabad to acquire the details of her life. It is learnt that Mai Gulab Kaur was born in Village Burhan in Campblpur district in the year 1920. She was the daughter of Bhai Dargha Mai, a sehajdhari Sikh and devotee of the Guru. She was married at the age of fifteen to one Bhai Des Raj of Haripur in 1935. The couple stayed in Sohewale Mohalla in Haripur. She had one son and two daughters. Ten years before her death, her husband died; Mai Gulab Kaur died some time in the year 1909‐10. She spent the last ten years of her life in a state of spiritual intoxication. Bhai Sahib Randhir Singh says that when he met her, she wore a kach, and wrapped her body in a blanket. She was amritdhari (baptised) and lived strictly according to the Khalsa code of conduct, but it is not known when and where she was baptised. At Haripur people called her Gulato, the mad woman. The Muslims revered her as a great saint, and respected her more than the Hindus and Sikhs.

[muscleman]

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[jkvlondon]

1 hour ago, HarkiranKaur said:

owe I just ejected cha out my nose LOL 

haha ... the holy grail is easier to find ... 

[singhbj singh]

3 hours ago, HarkiranKaur said:

Hmm where do I go to get a good caring obedient husband?? 

I'm not sure, UK or Brasil !

Need to confirm with jvklondon Bhein ji.

[jkvlondon]

1 minute ago, singhbj singh said:

I'm not sure, UK or Brasil !

Need to confirm with jvklondon Bhein ji.

surprisingly enough independent gurmukhs are available across the planet . My friends and SILs are married to some 

[Guest London jwaan]

3 hours ago, singhbj singh said:

I'm not sure, UK or Brasil !

Need to confirm with jvklondon Bhein ji.

Jkvlondon had made her choices and metaphorically dive the lambada in front of SGGS by baring a non sikh during an anand karaj. This is accepted as beadbi by the community, hence the mixed marriage demonstrations.

To counter this, she writes extremist views on this forum, often making up facts to appear more pious or learned. 

She also broadly stereotypes people from punjab, based on having succumbed to kaam and having preferred salsa dancers -turbanned or not.

This is NOT an example for our girls to follow.

Mods - do not delete this post. Is important 

[jkvlondon]

On 13/03/2017 at 8:23 PM, Guest Hide and sikh said:

Yeah, but isnt your husband brazilian? What does he know about sikhi? And unless he is also amridhari convert, arent a lot of your extremist posts hypocritical e.g. did you have anand karaj? just sayin'

ever heard of books, videos ...reading asking... yes we did have an anand karaj and we kept our word Guru ji is the central support of our life.