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Je koi sikh `havan` karawe ghar wich tan ki ooh sikh kehlawega?

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If a Sikh conducts a havan ritual, should they call themselves a Sikh?

Firstly, what's a havan, lol? I'm guessing it's a Hindu ritual or something?

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36 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

Let me get my Joogle Translate app working:

If a Sikh conducts a havan ritual, should they call themselves a Sikh?

Firstly, what's a havan, lol? I'm guessing it's a Hindu ritual or something?

Havan is fire used in worship, basically people put offerings inside it and hope something happens. 

On 3/9/2017 at 3:30 AM, Guest weaksoul said:

Don't know what to write here

Sikhs don't do Havan, but the Turban-Wearers,(don't really got any other term for this group), who do Havan are called Naamdhari, they don't believe Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is the Guru, nor do they accept Khand Di Pahul which requires initates to wear Kirpan, (they believe in a Symbolic Kirpan on the Kangha).

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On 11/03/2017 at 0:04 PM, MisterrSingh said:

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If a Sikh conducts a havan ritual, should they call themselves a Sikh?

Firstly, what's a havan, lol? I'm guessing it's a Hindu ritual or something?

its a hindu ritual. They sacrifice stuff into fires to bring good luck etc. Sometimes in the form of vegetation or even animals depending on what branch of Hinduism you follow. 

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As far as my knowledge of hinduism goes, havan is a way of worship and meditation prescribed by the first and second layer of the vedas, namely the "sanhita" (compilation) and "aranya"(forest).

So the ancient indians followed this system while their wisdom about paarbrahm was still developing. 

However the later layers of vedas,  the "brahmanas" and "upanishad" (literally meaning "sitting close to guru humbly") rejects this and outward worship of havan is replaced by inner contemplation and "knowing of self" which is core of every Upanishads. 

 

So even later day hinduism reject pretty much everything of what gurmat rejects. 

 

So a "sikh" who does havan is like a fool who takes a bullock cart when he has a private jet. 

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On 12/03/2017 at 6:51 PM, Kira said:

its a hindu ritual. They sacrifice stuff into fires to bring good luck etc. Sometimes in the form of vegetation or even animals depending on what branch of Hinduism you follow. 

reminds me of the bollywood depictions in childhood of lines of pandits spooning ghee into fires saying their mantras ending something like 'om namo swaha' to which somebody quipped in house tere sirr vich swaha.... much giggling ensued . But truly it is pointless , Aka Purakh gives you aan,  padarath to use for yourself and  the needy and yet they would prefer to burn it than give it in daan to the poor . 

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2 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

reminds me of the bollywood depictions in childhood of lines of pandits spooning ghee into fires saying their mantras ending something like 'om namo swaha' to which somebody quipped in house tere sirr vich swaha.... much giggling ensued . But truly it is pointless , Aka Purakh gives you aan,  padarath to use for yourself and  the needy and yet they would prefer to burn it than give it in daan to the poor . 

Well they throw water at the sun expecting their ancestors will get it? The rational thing is to give water to some random alive person.

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28 minutes ago, Jacfsing2 said:

Well they throw water at the sun expecting their ancestors will get it? The rational thing is to give water to some random alive person.

It originally started at something else ! There's no way ancient sages were stupid enough to preach that ancestors lived inside sun ! 

Sage yagyavalkya (to whom is credited shukl(white) recension of yajurveda and who is key figure of Brihadaranyaka (great forest) upanishad , which records his spiritual discussion with his spiritually inclined wife "maitreyi" , talks of "sun" repeatedly 

and it was believed that it was sun who revealed Shukl YajurVeda to this sage ! 

however, "sun" is akal purakh ! sun of suns ! 

People misinterpret ! It happens in sikhi too but much less frequent because our baani is simple to understand ! not tough sanskrit and also because we're newer religion, so not many modifications 

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