MUST READ.. The kind of things my hindu colleagues said about my faith

[jkvlondon]

Har Harjan ek han bib bichar kach nahin , jal te upijaya tarang jio jal hi bikai samai

 

[jkvlondon]

3 minutes ago, AjeetSinghPunjabi said:

Generally it was thought porkistan is responsible for spreading drugs because they know sikhs are the back of india . 

when is it not the usual suspect , someone sneezes and it's an ISI plot ... truth is the RSS_BJP gatt with the six ghadari families in punjab is the real cause 

[Guest AjeetSinghPunjabi]

2 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

Har Harjan ek han bib bichar kach nahin , jal te upijaya tarang jio jal hi bikai samai

 

true

[Guest AjeetSinghPunjabi]

2 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

when is it not the usual suspect , someone sneezes and it's an ISI plot ... truth is the RSS_BJP gatt with the six ghadari families in punjab is the real cause 

plausible !

considering hindutva says we love sikhs , they're our bros but secretly don't like us , unless we declare ourselves as branch of hindus.

RSS chief still says Guru Gobind Singh ji worshipped durga, while he was praising Guru Gobind Singh ji. 

[Guest AjeetSinghPunjabi]

Just now, 5akaalsingh said:

"Gur Parmeshar eko jaan, jo tis bhavai so parvan"

I still remember a kirtaniya singh told me "10 gurus are jyot of SGGS" (other way round of how we traditionally say lol) , but he is correct.

Siddhas to Guru Nanak : "Who's your guru ? whose disciple are you ?" 

Guru Nanak dev ji : " Shabad guru, surt dhun chela" (shabad , the spoken one , not merely written one, is guru, and attentive consciousness is disciple). 

Neither is body guru, nor body disciple. 

Lest we forget, as we often tend to 

[MisterrSingh]

13 minutes ago, 5akaalsingh said:

Drugs are not only spread by the center. Punjabis themselves were drug-loving people even during Guru Nanank ji's time. Bhang, afim, alcohol herbs etc were used by common farmers as medicines or just as drugs.

Hardly anybody mentions the above. I'll be honest, i never knew that at all, but if you think about it, it makes sense. So why do religious preachers seem to emphasise the fact that Punjabi drug culture is a relatively recent phenomenon that's a covert method adopted by the government of killing off Sikhs? So are we naturally predisposed, culturally speaking, drawn to the recreational use of intoxicants, lol? 

[Guest AjeetSinghPunjabi]

Just now, 5akaalsingh said:

they want Sikhs to be part of their panth. We were, are, will  be a separate nation.

Every true Sikh knows that "durga worship" was nothing more than Waheguru worship. 

There's a very subtle distinction which most sikhs and hindus don't notice !

Guru Gobind Singh ji made it very clear when he said "Tae hi durga saaj ke daitan da naas karaya" (You created durga and destroyed the daits) . 

I have an english pdf of 10 main upanishads (central layer of vedas). It does speak of vedic gods, but somehow everytime converges to "brahm" (one god waheguru ) . Reading those english translation of upanishads make my faith in SGGS stronger lol.

 

There's a hindu concept of shiva-shakti (which finds several mention in SGGS too ) . Shiva is consciousness, and shakti is manifestation . Shiv is nirgun saroop, shakti is nature which gives birth to forms. 

So shiv was considered male, shakti was considered female. Shakti could destroy also tyrants. Hence durga form. All hindu gods are symbolism of a deeper abstraction and point to brahm only. 

In ashtapadi 21 of sukhmani sahib, Guru Arjan dev ji says :

"Jab nirgun prabh sahaj subhaaye, tab siv sakt kahu kit thae"

(When formless lord was all by himself, where was shiva-shakti).

Hence  , gurmat accepts existence but not worship of compartmentalized and divided forms of god in form of various dieties 

 

[Guest AjeetSinghPunjabi]

5 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

Hardly anybody mentions the above. I'll be honest, i never knew that at all, but if you think about it, it makes sense. So why do religious preachers seem to emphasise the fact that Punjabi drug culture is a relatively recent phenomenon that's a covert method adopted by the government of killing off Sikhs? So are we naturally predisposed, culturally speaking, drawn to the recreational use of intoxicants, lol? 

I am also more concerned of when did the sardar jokes and santa banta jokes started ??

werent they started post 1984 ? or were sardar jokes prevalent even before that ? 

I thought they started it to demoralize sikh youth.

[Guest AjeetSinghPunjabi]

Sometimes I wonder would it have been better if sikhi was revealed to non-punjabis ? lol 

[Guest AjeetSinghPunjabi]

12 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

Hardly anybody mentions the above. I'll be honest, i never knew that at all, but if you think about it, it makes sense. So why do religious preachers seem to emphasise the fact that Punjabi drug culture is a relatively recent phenomenon that's a covert method adopted by the government of killing off Sikhs? So are we naturally predisposed, culturally speaking, drawn to the recreational use of intoxicants, lol? 

when I tell people that I don't eat meat or drink (alcohol), they raise eyes ! lol, sardars are known for drinking and "teri ***di , teri ** di" type of abuses . Non sikhs think its funny and makes us look cute , lol no ! 

Its not good for us in long run.