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do angels exist?

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just wondering if angels exist according to sikhi? iv been reading the gospels and Torah the last few days just out of curiosity and clearly angels are important beings in those faiths. in the gospels when jesus was asked about marriage in the afterlife, jesus responded by saying marriage does not exist in the afterlife and that one becomes like an angel etc.

does sikhi acknowledge the existence of angels? iv read some parts of shri dasam granth and angels are mentioned in there as well as other beings like heavenly singers and musicians. what about the devi and devte? are they not basically angels? 

jamdoots/messengers of death are mentioned a lot in guru granth sahib and iv read actual personal experiences of sikhs seeing jamdhoots like  Bhai Rama Singh's book etc, but iv never read or heard of any sikhs seeing angels!  

 

 

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Yes angels are real

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Angels are different from Devas, Devas are benevolent forces but even they are trapped in maya/ego. Angels are a-lot more purer than them iirc, and less active in mundane affairs like wars. They're only shown as observers rather than active participants from the portions of DG i have read.

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On 2/24/2017 at 7:23 PM, Guest itsMe said:

wjkk wjkf

just wondering if angels exist according to sikhi? iv been reading the gospels and Torah the last few days just out of curiosity and clearly angels are important beings in those faiths. in the gospels when jesus was asked about marriage in the afterlife, jesus responded by saying marriage does not exist in the afterlife and that one becomes like an angel etc.

does sikhi acknowledge the existence of angels? iv read some parts of shri dasam granth and angels are mentioned in there as well as other beings like heavenly singers and musicians. what about the devi and devte? are they not basically angels? 

jamdoots/messengers of death are mentioned a lot in guru granth sahib and iv read actual personal experiences of sikhs seeing jamdhoots like  Bhai Rama Singh's book etc, but iv never read or heard of any sikhs seeing angels! 

Angels exist; they just aren't available for us,, Devtis have an obsession showing themselves as leaders; and egomaniacs, especially Indra: who ran away from his kingdom and cried to Durga to get his kingdom back, Devti are NOT angels. There was once a time when Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Arjun Dev Ji was being Shaheed and Mian Mir asked if he could intervene, during that time Guru Sahib had told him no, and he mentioned that he had already told someone else no, Mian Mir was confused as he had no idea who was asking that; and then Guru Sahib showed him angels who had asked if they could finish the Raj of Jahangir and bring Chandu to justice. They exist to serve the light of Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji; and hate showing themselves to those with no bhagti,

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I would suggest you to read whole of sri akaal ustat (with meanings otherwise u can't understand) 

u will get the answer of ur questions and many many more answers too

 

its very very lovely bani written by satguroo jee

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Angels in my hair is the book which enlightens you all about what angels do. It is a very soothing read which you will not want to put down once you have begun it. Very interesting events recorded here on how angels were a big part of someones life. They helped basically in everything. They are even present in large numbers at funerals to take peoples pain away and yet we know nothing about it. 

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Angels IMHO are abrahamic religious concept. Their existence in sikhi is irrelevant 

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14 minutes ago, AjeetSinghPunjabi said:

Angels IMHO are abrahamic religious concept. Their existence in sikhi is irrelevant 

I want to agree with you; however, he was asking if angels existed in the first place. Also they aren't an Abrahamic concept, (it is true that Sikhi doesn't care as much). If he asked, "if aliens existed", the answer would still be "yes", even if they aren't relevant to oyr faith.

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Angels exist. In sikhi, "angels" refers to ALL that sit and sing outside sachkhand's entrance. Japji sahib's gavai pauri's tells us about all the different types of angels singing God's praises.

Just cuz the term "angel" is English, people link it to Abrahamic. All the faiths and religions have different names and terms for these same messengers and workers of God. There job is to help people who want to meet God

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Yes they exist. They exist only in the mind. Just like ghosts, jamdoots, devi, devtes. I also happened to believe in these things until I did a little bit more research into it. 

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