how old is the Khanda nishan symbol used in today's gurdwarey?

[StarStriker]

1 hour ago, Singh559 said:

Lol you're that Sikh Talk took guy from Instagram?

Erm no, but i did crop those 2 pics frm his instagram. I duno if ur new to this forum, but any1 can tell u im not him. I dont mind him tho, im subscribed to his youtube channel for a year or so now, n i like his views on colonisation of apnay and black ppl etc. The rest of his stuff havnt really paid attention to. Genie in another thread says hes a communist/marxist.... im clearly not that for cryin out loud. 

[dallysingh101]

@chatanga

 

Dude, do you remember this card you posted on SA from some British military guy thanking some apna for helping recruitment from around 1915?  

[dallysingh101]

 

This one has been discussed before. 

It is VERY unlikely to be a flag from Ranjit Singh's time. The very pristine condition of it is a give away, plus we have loads of standards that have survived from that time in various locations in the UK - none of them look like this. 

[StarStriker]

25 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

 

This one has been discussed before. 

It is VERY unlikely to be a flag from Ranjit Singh's time. The very pristine condition of it is a give away, plus we have loads of standards that have survived from that time in various locations in the UK - none of them look like this. 

Yea indeed, if true 100% im not suprised, as i stated above, its prolly edited by em.

[jkvlondon]

5 hours ago, StarStriker said:

I wouldnt b suprised if the khanda is a cleverly crafted symbol by the goreh to resemble freemason/illuminati symbolism, which they have cleverly done everywhere in the world. Dally on another thread pointed out how there r freemason/illuminati symbols on the floor at harmandir sahib on the tiled parkarma, which was shown on a youtube video. But there is a flag which brits captured frm anglo sikh wars, which shows a resemblence to modern day khanda. But for all we know brits cudda edited it.

But as we all know, this 1 below is the original nishan sahib, which streches back to 6th gurus time.

But 1 thing i do know is, we have got to make some serious efforts to retun the sikh panth/way of life back to wat it was, prior to these dirty brits comin in and posioning our panth with their editing.

Unfortunatly, there r some idiotic sikhs (esp freshy sikhs, who still romanticise over gora rule), who have colonised brains. These latest pics r an effing disgrace! Im not sure if these r 3ho or colonised brainwashed panjabis, either way, assi bachke raina chaiyda!

Mata gujari as some sort of "virgin" mary, or guru ramdas ji lookin pagri walah joseph holdin guru arjan dev ji as some sort of wannabe lil jesus, shocking!

top one is definitely ripoff of western madonna iconography(babylonian ) including the hand position and fingers . bottom one is a 3HO stylee picture they have similar for Guru Ram Das ji and Guru Nanak Dev ji you can tell they look like white caucasians rather than Indians.

[StarStriker]

18 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

top one is definitely ripoff of western madonna iconography(babylonian ) including the hand position and fingers . bottom one is a 3HO stylee picture they have similar for Guru Ram Das ji and Guru Nanak Dev ji you can tell they look like white caucasians rather than Indians.

sickening isnt it?

[jkvlondon]

7 minutes ago, StarStriker said:

sickening isnt it?

why surprised ...if they can take originally literally BLACK madonna and make her gori with blue eyes and reddish blond hair we're small potatoes . 

http://atlantablackstar.com/2014/09/19/10-images-of-europeans-praying-to-black-madonna-and-black-jesus/2/

that is why I respect the east ortodox more as they kept true to the actual message not like RC pagan hybrid ...what do you think New Age is ..pagan hindu milgoba

honestly seeing Guru Arjun Dev ji with a hanky on his Joorda makes me angry and sick to the stomach at the same time.

[jkvlondon]

Just now, Preeet said:

That's just a murti..! There are murtis of gods in all black stones, but we know that is not their real skin tone.

they have african features too and are made by greek  early christians ...I have seen it in real life 

[StarStriker]

27 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

why surprised ...if they can take originally literally BLACK madonna and make her gori with blue eyes and reddish blond hair we're small potatoes . 

http://atlantablackstar.com/2014/09/19/10-images-of-europeans-praying-to-black-madonna-and-black-jesus/2/

that is why I respect the east ortodox more as they kept true to the actual message not like RC pagan hybrid ...what do you think New Age is ..pagan hindu milgoba

honestly seeing Guru Arjun Dev ji with a hanky on his Joorda makes me angry and sick to the stomach at the same time.

im not suprised, im just saying, its sickening. I was gona mention how the goreh have done same to african/egyptian gods/prophets.

[dallysingh101]

1 hour ago, jkvlondon said:

top one is definitely ripoff of western madonna iconography(babylonian ) including the hand position and fingers . bottom one is a 3HO stylee picture they have similar for Guru Ram Das ji and Guru Nanak Dev ji you can tell they look like white caucasians rather than Indians.

This is very common. Europeans did it to Jesus. The Chinese did it to Buddha. 

People appropriate what they desire. Our artists need to make sure that they present our ancestors in their proper hues. If you look at Sikh art from M. Ranjit Singh's time, the indigenous artists appear to have gone out of their way to represent Sikh as a mixture of dark skinned and light skinned folk reflecting the reality of our society. It's only all those Aryan/Scythian bull5hit believers amongst us who started to believe we were some descendents of some white invaders - stupidly and probably unwittingly justifying their subjugation by white Europeans and identifying with them. There are very subtle psychological mind games being played by our attackers here.