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Akalifauj    784
9 hours ago, singhbj singh said:

I'm not sure whether she's the same Gori coz this video says Bibi Harvinder Kaur Khalsa.

If they both are same then Sangat must also see this video.

When she tells everyone to sing along to the Gurbani shabad from Sukhmani Sahib ji, she takes up a yoga pose.  Many are not familiar with it and will make nothing of it because they don't know better.  She sits by placing her hands on her knees and then touches her thumb with her index finger.  This is one of the poses yogi bhajan taught his followers to hold as part of his yoga teachings and its a mudra.  Gurbani does not approve of mudra poses.  I was doing seva at a Akhand Paath and there was a lot of Singh there.  Time came to do Rehras Sahib.  about 15 Singhs sat together and one singh took the same pose as she has in this video while singing the shabad from Sukhmani Sahib.  I looked at him and saw it and shook my head in disbelief.  However I was not the only one to notice his manmat behaviour.  One of the senior singhs saw it and you can just see his facial expression go from happy to a very assertive look.  He immediately looked at the other singh holding the pose, who was similar in age and this singh was ready to listen to Rehras Sahib from the senior Singh.  But the senior singh was not going to let him promote his manmat in this group.  In Punjabi the senior singh, goes what are you doing, our Gurus never told us to sit in this way, wherever you learned to sit like that....leave it there and never bring it here.  We are Sikhs....there was a lot more said, but I couldn't remember all of it because I was laughing my but off and was told my a senior to stop it while he was laughing with me.  It was the most comical moment and most teachable moment in that group of Singhs.  This senior Singh did not hesitate to speak up for what is right.  And this senior singh was not some random guy.  He was respected and devoted his life to teaching Gurbani to all ages.  The singh he gave a harsh lesson to, learned from it and never got upset or didn't show he was upset.  He respected the senior singh and followed his Guru given instructions.  Some might say this was such a small thing.  But only those understand how big of a change this after contemplating over Gurbani for hours and hours. 

I have not seen the whole video.  When I watch the rest, If I see anything else that shows she got her teaching from 3ho, I will point it out here.      

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singh598    381

In all honesty it's wrong but not a big deal if people practice yoga whilst in Darbar Gurbani 

i always heard in katha that Sri Mata Ji of Guru Gobind Singh Ji were yog abhyasee 

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Akalifauj    784
5 hours ago, singh598 said:

In all honesty it's wrong but not a big deal if people practice yoga whilst in Darbar Gurbani 

i always heard in katha that Sri Mata Ji of Guru Gobind Singh Ji were yog abhyasee 

When the Guru gives instruction not to practice yoga for reaching Vaheguru and no mudra ever.  What leg does your comment have to stand on?  Sukhmani Sahib says stand up and sitting meditate on Naam.  So please tell me when Sant Jarnail Singh ji was in the fields doing 101 Japji Sahibs, what yoga did he perform?  Let's go further in history, when Satguru Tegh Bahadur Sahib ji meditated on Vaheguru, what yoga did he perform? 

Yog abhyasee can hold a different meaning for everyone and this is why it's important to explain what a person means.  In the context of Sikhi, it means to meditate on Vaheguru as the Guru's prescribed as Mata ji did.  She would not be practicing yoga for trying to gain union with Akal Purakh.  Her husband, Sri Guru Tegh Bahadur Sahib ji, the ninth Guru of the Sikhs, who gave his head taught yog abhyasee of Akal Purakh and not of mudras.  You have been misinformed or you misunderstood the person teachings.  If you heard it from someone like Hari Singh Randhawa, then expect it to be false knowledge because he has been bought by various cults, who are looking to cash in on twisting any Sikh practice to divert people toward themselves.   

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singh598    381

 have no knowledge Sitting cross legged and back straight is yoga 

concentration on your breathing cycle whilst concentration on naam is helping 

but yoga without naam is wrong 

what im saying is a certain amount of yoga is okay 

most people have no knowledge of yoga or Gurbani 

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singh598    381

For the novice naam abhyasi, yoga is a valid tool but also purity of diet and body is essential 

hence Gurmat is not only about naam but it's prerequisites as written in Gurbani 

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Jacfsing2    1,845
9 minutes ago, Sukhvirk76 said:

Sounds all a bit confused really. .not sure if i agree. .

Do what you want, you've already argued pointlessly on meaningless issues when you could have been cleansing your soul, through Naam Simran. 

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Akalifauj    784
6 hours ago, singh598 said:

 have no knowledge Sitting cross legged and back straight is yoga 

By this low thinking, then roti, keer is a brahman dish.  The dastar is hindu and muslim.  The beard is Muslim and jesus's.  The kirpan is hindu, muslim, christain, roman, Viking etc.  The long hair belongs to Hindu kings and jesus. So one question, what are you?  Are you a Hindu or muslim or christain or roman or follower of the Vikings?  Or are you a mix breed who claims to be all at the same time like MSG?

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concentration on your breathing cycle whilst concentration on naam is helping 

Bring forward a Shabad that tells you to focus on breathing to focus on Naam.  Who have you been hanging out with lately?  Surely not gursikhs.

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but yoga without naam is wrong 

Yoga is wrong for trying to get Naam because yoga can't get you naam.  Gurbani is the goal, boat, help, support, and focus of a Sikh. 

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what im saying is a certain amount of yoga is okay 

Yoga for stretching the body, learning out to breath deeper, and become more flexible is all good.  Yoga for trying to reach Akal Purakh or trying to use it as an aid is all wrong.  Gurbani is the aid and end goal.  Seriously, who have you been sitting with or watching that you have been brainwashed. 

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most people have no knowledge of yoga or Gurbani 

Having no knowledge of yoga and having knowledge of Gurbani with Guru's grace leads to mukti.  Having no knowledge of Gurbani and having knowledge of yoga leads a person to the pit of hell.  Listen to Bhagat Kabir ji shabads on maya and he calls yoga maya.  Yoga is stuck in the three gunas; Sattva, Tamas, and Rajas.  Yoga does not have the fourth and only state that matters.  The Guru's name is your only support.  How do you not understand this very easy concept?  Gurbani repeats this countless times.  Over and over the Guru says repeat his name only and don't look else where.  Fall in love with him only and don't look else where.  Nothing else will help you in the end, cling to his name and you will be saved.  He is your only support and don't be a traveler.  The merchandise is only in the Guru's house and no where else, come here and receive the teachings and support.  Focus your attention on his name only and you will win this world and the next.   I am paraphrasing, but where do you see any duality or doubt in these lines.  So why do you have doubt and duality in you? 

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Jacfsing2    1,845
11 hours ago, Sukhvirk76 said:

Wow. . I'm guessing you should probably take a leaf out your own book

 

11 hours ago, Sukhvirk76 said:

You sure have strong opinions about meaningless things. . Pontificating over them burning up energy. ..

Before arguing you should know at least what your talking about, and even before arguing the least one should do is a minimum of Amrit Vela and Nitnem, (if Daas can't usually do the Amrit Vela; Daas won't be spitting his mouth pointlessly).  

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Jacfsing2    1,845
9 hours ago, Sukhvirk76 said:

you should probably try and do more then.. might help keep the spit off your bib

Before you go onward with any more false accusations of me not doing either of those, I'm an Amritdhari, (not bragging, but Daas can't stand when someone makes claims that I don't do Paht).

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