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Baba Sri Chand's Aarta in praise of his Father


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Some useful info on Baba Sri Chand by Bijla Singh

Baba Sri Chand came back in the fold of Sikhi later on. He met Guru Ramdas Ji and Guru Arjan Dev Ji with utmost respect and admitted that Guru Nanak Sahib had chosen the right successor. After meeting Guru Hargobind Ji, he handed over his sect to Guru Sahib. Guru Sahib appointed his eldest son Baba Gurditta Ji to head this sect after reorganizing it and turning it into a missionary group of Sikhism. Guru Sahib divided this group into five branches and each was headed by a Sikh. Job of udasis was to establish and manage Dharamshaals throughout India and write Gurbani pothis and Birs. They carried this task very well but slowly they drifted away from Gurmat. Now they are closer to Hinduism than to Gurmat. Eighth generation of Guru Nanak Sahib (from Lakhmi Daas) took Amrit from Guru Gobind Singh Ji. Guru Rakha

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7 hours ago, Singh123456777 said:

Bro be aware that sikhi wiki is a 3HO sponsored site and will be pro Sri CHand to justify their practices in fact the picture of the Statue on the entry is the very same statue they have installed in Espanola , New Mexico  which they do puja/pranam to. They have been taught that Yoga is part of sikhi because Sri Chand went to this path ...

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16 hours ago, Singh123456777 said:

Are you higher than sri Gur partap Suraj Granth or twarikh guru kahlsa Granth? Do you have more knowledge than Giani gian Singh or kavi Santokh Singh? 

 

Get out out of your bubble man

Just more hoo-ha and no substance.  Since you are not used to factual debates.  Let me help you.  Provide some write up with substance.  A pargraph, page, etc with reference to creditable source's.  Please no more hoo-ha.  Save it for when Sikh Awareness is back up.   

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9 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

Bro be aware that sikhi wiki is a 3HO sponsored site and will be pro Sri CHand to justify their practices in fact the picture of the Statue on the entry is the very same statue they have installed in Espanola , New Mexico  which they do puja/pranam to. They have been taught that Yoga is part of sikhi because Sri Chand went to this path ...

He's pulling at torn up strings that are not even their to begin with.  He lives in a bubble.

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47 minutes ago, Akalifauj said:

He's pulling at torn up strings that are not even their to begin with.  He lives in a bubble.

I would like to believe it is an innocent mistake that I made when I first came across the site , but a few things were askew so I cross-referenced and then realised they have said a few things there which are strange ...I have heard in more than three places now that Guru Arjun Dev ji asked for input for his Bani Sukhmani Sahib from same Sri Chand but it is made out to be like a nimrata deference to Sri Chand to bless Guru ji with His knowledge ...err Hmm   Akal Purakh I'm fairly certain would need no such help and Guru ji was ot a false flatterer either. I do not believe Guru Sahib gave Baba Gurditta to Sri Chand  as a unthinking act  it set the stage for the samprada which acted in the panth's favour as spy networks and custodians when warfare was the main life of the panth... 

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In the above thread Brother Kam 1825 has highlighted a few sources which are respected which state that the story about Sri Chand and Sukhmani Sahib is not so ...

Baba Mohan ji was deeply spiritual person agreed, but I feel that when apne vadde come to us and ask for a favour we cannot refuse especially if they have kamai . The modern version is when Baba Gurbachan SIngh Bhindrawale ji asked for Sant ji from his Father ...

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6 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

I would like to believe it is an innocent mistake that I made when I first came across the site , but a few things were askew so I cross-referenced and then realised they have said a few things there which are strange ...I have heard in more than three places now that Guru Arjun Dev ji asked for input for his Bani Sukhmani Sahib from same Sri Chand but it is made out to be like a nimrata deference to Sri Chand to bless Guru ji with His knowledge ...err Hmm   Akal Purakh I'm fairly certain would need no such help and Guru ji was ot a false flatterer either. I do not believe Guru Sahib gave Baba Gurditta to Sri Chand  as a unthinking act  it set the stage for the samprada which acted in the panth's favour as spy networks and custodians when warfare was the main life of the panth... 

Sant baba gurbachan Singh Ji has done katha of the 16th solak in sukhmani sahib.  Anyone who listens to Sant jis katha knows, Sant ji goes into detail when explaining history.  Yet here Sant jis just says, it is said Sri Chand was asked to put his input into sukhmani sahib. Sant ji did not believe this to be true. Just from his tone and word choice shows he doesn't.  Also Sant ji katha on Bhai Gurdas Ji vaar about Sri Chand sitting close to the Guru (Guru Nanak Dev Ji), yet unable to gain the virtues shows Sri Chand was not even close to having the Gurus wisdom in him.  Also Suraj Parkash granth is not fully accepted by the actual jathedars of DamDami Taksal.  They outright reject Suraj Parkash on what happened to the Punj Pyare head.  Kavi Santosh Singh says goats heads were cut.  Sant ji completely rejects this nonsense.  

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4 hours ago, Akalifauj said:

Sant baba gurbachan Singh Ji has done katha of the 16th solak in sukhmani sahib.  Anyone who listens to Sant jis katha knows, Sant ji goes into detail when explaining history.  Yet here Sant jis just says, it is said Sri Chand was asked to put his input into sukhmani sahib. Sant ji did not believe this to be true. Just from his tone and word choice shows he doesn't.  Also Sant ji katha on Bhai Gurdas Ji vaar about Sri Chand sitting close to the Guru (Guru Nanak Dev Ji), yet unable to gain the virtues shows Sri Chand was not even close to having the Gurus wisdom in him.  Also Suraj Parkash granth is not fully accepted by the actual jathedars of DamDami Taksal.  They outright reject Suraj Parkash on what happened to the Punj Pyare head.  Kavi Santosh Singh says goats heads were cut.  Sant ji completely rejects this nonsense.  

Bhai Ajmer SIngh who was Muslim Spy at Vaisakhi 1699 says that the heads were taken in front of the crowd and granted he says that the heads were sewn/matched  (???) to different bodies and then amrit di chitti were sprinkled on the five then they arose again .   He couldn't have said that and described the terror in the crowd if anything happened inside a tent and he would not have become an amritdhari Khalsa  after seeing what he saw if there was any truth to the substitution of goats for people . Baba Deep Singh fought without his head , as did Baba Gurbachan Singh ji   if this gurpiarey did this then Yes I believe my Guru ji can make impossible possible ...

My question is if Taksal Sant Baba Gurbachan Singh ji rejects this sakhi then why is Thakur Singh Patiala wale doing same katha/sakhi parchar... is this the sign of his 'bought out' state 

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