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Girls from Punjab are no better or worse than UK girls.

The only difference is that UK girls are more open with their intentions whereas Punjab ones are more clandestine. 

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@OP  i think the main reason ur parents want someone from india is that she will be more likely to live with an extended family. Most modern girls want their privacy, own place, and will see the in laws as interfering, criticizing burdens instead of as helpful, advice offering, sometimes annoying responsibility who r still family.

Secondly, they do want a wife that is dependent on the husband. That way she will be less likely to divorce over trivial things, and will be more likely to be a housewife and stay at home mom. Most modern uk women would not want to give up their careers to stay at home. And a stay at home mom is really important to raise kids in a traditional, healthy way.

Thirdly, i think there are very rare families who raised their daughters like ur parents did in the uk. Ur probably the only one in uk. In america there r some familiws that r as strict as urs complete with no internet n picking up kids from school. But still rare. Most tend to be strict taksali families, i think akj r more modern, more english speaking at home too. Maybe some very misogynist, traditional panjabi families r the same, but most panjabis that r not amritdhari r pretty lax.

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4 hours ago, Ranjeet01 said:

Girls from Punjab are no better or worse than UK girls.

The only difference is that UK girls are more open with their intentions whereas Punjab ones are more clandestine. 

Girls from Punjab are very much different than girls in the UK.  Girls in the UK hide a lot from their parents.  Changing at gas stations into promiscuous clothing, sometimes in the back of a cab, so they can go have a night out boozing, taking pills, and grind up on random guys.  Then comes the excuse.....mom im stay at my friends house.........which means, I met a guy and I am going to go sleep with him for the night.  Get up the next morning, change back into clothing their parents accept and back home to act like the best daughter any parents will have.  Parents know what goes on, but they rather not confront the demon in the room.  What's the excuse these girls use to hide their past from their husband...that's right....you are getting married to me and not my past.  And like a good puppy dog the western guy rolls over and takes it like a good boy.  This is the reality everywhere in the country.  There are a few good girls in the western world, but their demeanor is rude and stuck on extreme feminist ideology.  Who wants the Hulk as their partner. 

Girls in Punjab are not all the same.  The one`s who live in big cities are more likely to be stained with a similar brush as the UK girls.  Girls who leave for university outside of the family unit will be in a similar situation as the girls in a bigger city.  Unless she finds sangat in this manures field who does not also prescribe to the promiscuous lifestyle.   But girls in the pind that have their family and brothers and cousins to watch out for them have not indulged in this behaviour.  They had no chance and their moral compass does not allow them.  There sangat never existed of girls who were promiscuous and if, ever they befriend a girl who is.  The brother makes sure that friendship does not last more than 2 seconds. 

Can we say the same about western brothers or cousins, never!!!  Instead they party with their sister as their best friend feels her up as her boyfriend.  And the Punjabi girls who live in areas where there is less Punjabis.  They should be saved from this behaviour.  Nope not true at all.  Instead they date guys from other cultures and races.  These are the girls who will mostly like marry a person of a different race.  Parents in the western country have no control over their girls.  Some have been saved because they know better themselves.  Yet in Punjab, more girls are under the control of their parents and will not even attempt to go down the road of looking at a boy.  The consequences are too high.  If some backwards western minded person finds this as controlling.  Then tell me how much control your daughter has when she is drunk and on some sort of pill that was prepared by a crackhead.  I ask this question because this is the reality.  Unfortunately, police respond to a lot of cr*p they never want to see.

A girl from America who believes she is following Sikhi says she will not be ashamed to be naked in front of Vaheguru when discussing what is moral to wear for a girl in public.  She runs the blog Kaurlife.  Don`t believe me, go read this cr*p for yourself.  This is the crazy mind of a western Punjabi girl.     

There are 100 times better rishta in india than western countries. 

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7 minutes ago, Akalifauj said:

Girls from Punjab are very much different than girls in the UK.  Girls in the UK hide a lot from their parents.  Changing at gas stations into promiscuous clothing, sometimes in the back of a cab, so they can go have a night out boozing, taking pills, and grind up on random guys.  Then comes the excuse.....mom im stay at my friends house.........which means, I met a guy and I am going to go sleep with him for the night.  Get up the next morning, change back into clothing their parents accept and back home to act like the best daughter any parents will have.  Parents know what goes on, but they rather not confront the demon in the room.  What's the excuse these girls use to hide their past from their husband...that's right....you are getting married to me and not my past.  And like a good puppy dog the western guy rolls over and takes it like a good boy.  This is the reality everywhere in the country.  There are a few good girls in the western world, but their demeanor is rude and stuck on extreme feminist ideology.  Who wants the Hulk as their partner. 

Girls in Punjab are not all the same.  The one`s who live in big cities are more likely to be stained with a similar brush as the UK girls.  Girls who leave for university outside of the family unit will be in a similar situation as the girls in a bigger city.  Unless she finds sangat in this manures field who does not also prescribe to the promiscuous lifestyle.   But girls in the pind that have their family and brothers and cousins to watch out for them have not indulged in this behaviour.  They had no chance and their moral compass does not allow them.  There sangat never existed of girls who were promiscuous and if, ever they befriend a girl who is.  The brother makes sure that friendship does not last more than 2 seconds. 

Can we say the same about western brothers or cousins, never!!!  Instead they party with their sister as their best friend feels her up as her boyfriend.  And the Punjabi girls who live in areas where there is less Punjabis.  They should be saved from this behaviour.  Nope not true at all.  Instead they date guys from other cultures and races.  These are the girls who will mostly like marry a person of a different race.  Parents in the western country have no control over their girls.  Some have been saved because they know better themselves.  Yet in Punjab, more girls are under the control of their parents and will not even attempt to go down the road of looking at a boy.  The consequences are too high.  If some backwards western minded person finds this as controlling.  Then tell me how much control your daughter has when she is drunk and on some sort of pill that was prepared by a crackhead.  I ask this question because this is the reality.  Unfortunately, police respond to a lot of cr*p they never want to see.

A girl from America who believes she is following Sikhi says she will not be ashamed to be naked in front of Vaheguru when discussing what is moral to wear for a girl in public.  She runs the blog Kaurlife.  Don`t believe me, go read this cr*p for yourself.  This is the crazy mind of a western Punjabi girl.     

There are 100 times better rishta in india than western countries. 

Akalifauj

The scenario you are talking about UK girls is so 1980's. 

The girls of today are the daughters of those 1980 girls, it's a lot more out in the open.

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Just now, Ranjeet01 said:

Akalifauj

The scenario you are talking about UK girls is so 1980's. 

The girls of today are the daughters of those 1980 girls, it's a lot more out in the open.

Open for the girls who are born to these families, but not open for girls born in the family, who are first generation western born girls.  There parents barely can speak English and don`t know the culture around them.  They still hide what they do outside of the house.  Also I know of white families who don`t allow their daughters to date and go clubbing.  Yet their daughters hide what they do from the parents.  This has nothing to do with what their parents have done in the past.  It`s what the parents want now and what the western culture is telling their girls to do.  So they hide their behaviour.  Which girl goes home and tells their parents, she just got plastered and passed out at some random guys house.  Not even the most liberal girl in a white family will be shameful enough to tell her mother or father. 

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50 minutes ago, Akalifauj said:

Open for the girls who are born to these families, but not open for girls born in the family, who are first generation western born girls.  There parents barely can speak English and don`t know the culture around them.  They still hide what they do outside of the house.  Also I know of white families who don`t allow their daughters to date and go clubbing.  Yet their daughters hide what they do from the parents.  This has nothing to do with what their parents have done in the past.  It`s what the parents want now and what the western culture is telling their girls to do.  So they hide their behaviour.  Which girl goes home and tells their parents, she just got plastered and passed out at some random guys house.  Not even the most liberal girl in a white family will be shameful enough to tell her mother or father. 

You are not from the UK and I don't where you live but it is not the case in UK 2017.

The majority of UK born Sikhs are 2nd/3rd even 4th generation Sikhs.

When I meant intention as per what the O.P., I was alluding to the fact that girls in the UK are up front in what their intentions are for marriage. For example, they do not want to live with their in-laws and they will openly express it. The in-laws will understand this and may compromise and say live with us for 6 months and then move out.

A girl from Punjab could say that she wants to live her in-laws but slowly and gradually turn her husband away from his family. Once she does this, she will try to bring her own pekheh over so that her family is in the sphere of influence.

Girls from Punjab know how to keep quiet and work in sly cunning way. Whereas a UK girl is more likely show her hand early on.

However if the Punjab girl's mother-in-law is from Punjab herself, she will quickly suss out what her daughter-in-law is upto as she is from the same cultural background and can see the tell tale signs and anticipate her moves.

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9 hours ago, Ranjeet01 said:

You are not from the UK and I don't where you live but it is not the case in UK 2017.

The majority of UK born Sikhs are 2nd/3rd even 4th generation Sikhs.

When I meant intention as per what the O.P., I was alluding to the fact that girls in the UK are up front in what their intentions are for marriage. For example, they do not want to live with their in-laws and they will openly express it. The in-laws will understand this and may compromise and say live with us for 6 months and then move out.

A girl from Punjab could say that she wants to live her in-laws but slowly and gradually turn her husband away from his family. Once she does this, she will try to bring her own pekheh over so that her family is in the sphere of influence.

Girls from Punjab know how to keep quiet and work in sly cunning way. Whereas a UK girl is more likely show her hand early on.

However if the Punjab girl's mother-in-law is from Punjab herself, she will quickly suss out what her daughter-in-law is upto as she is from the same cultural background and can see the tell tale signs and anticipate her moves.

Are you sure your name isn't Joginder Bassi?

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Akalifauj paji, thus bit isn't right. 

"But girls in the pind that have their family and brothers and cousins to watch out for them have not indulged in this behaviour.  They had no chance and their moral compass does not allow them.  There sangat never existed of girls who were promiscuous and if, ever they befriend a girl who is.  The brother makes sure that friendship does not last more than 2 seconds."

They are the same as city girls, just undercover. 

 

13 hours ago, Ranjeet01 said:

You are not from the UK and I don't where you live but it is not the case in UK 2017.

The majority of UK born Sikhs are 2nd/3rd even 4th generation Sikhs.

When I meant intention as per what the O.P., I was alluding to the fact that girls in the UK are up front in what their intentions are for marriage. For example, they do not want to live with their in-laws and they will openly express it. The in-laws will understand this and may compromise and say live with us for 6 months and then move out.

A girl from Punjab could say that she wants to live her in-laws but slowly and gradually turn her husband away from his family. Once she does this, she will try to bring her own pekheh over so that her family is in the sphere of influence.

Girls from Punjab know how to keep quiet and work in sly cunning way. Whereas a UK girl is more likely show her hand early on.

However if the Punjab girl's mother-in-law is from Punjab herself, she will quickly suss out what her daughter-in-law is upto as she is from the same cultural background and can see the tell tale signs and anticipate her moves.

True. 

Its not just the girls, the guys also play a part. Plenty can be said about them too who come over from Punjab. 

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3 hours ago, simran345 said:

Akalifauj paji, thus bit isn't right. 

"But girls in the pind that have their family and brothers and cousins to watch out for them have not indulged in this behaviour.  They had no chance and their moral compass does not allow them.  There sangat never existed of girls who were promiscuous and if, ever they befriend a girl who is.  The brother makes sure that friendship does not last more than 2 seconds."

They are the same as city girls, just undercover. 

 

True. 

Its not just the girls, the guys also play a part. Plenty can be said about them too who come over from Punjab. 

In the context of UK girl v Punjab girl.

However, male and female from Punjab have a more pragmarism and see marriage in a completely different context. We UK lot are far more idealistic.

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5 hours ago, simran345 said:

Akalifauj paji, thus bit isn't right. 

They are the same as city girls, just undercover. 

I'm not surprised you see things this way, after all you call water impure and alcohol as pure.  You praise the slander of others and justify it, but hate the slander of your forum husband harsharan after he praises false teachings.  Your like hitler, I hate/killed everyone else, but I'm a vegetarian. 

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3 hours ago, Ranjeet01 said:

In the context of UK girl v Punjab girl.

However, male and female from Punjab have a more pragmarism and see marriage in a completely different context. We UK lot are far more idealistic.

Sleeping around with random guys hopped on drugs after getting married is not idealistic.  The UK boy marries a UK born girls and she goes on her girl trips with friends.  What do you think these girls are doing?  Doing paath on these trips!  These girls never change, they go to clubs, get free drinks for grinding and making out with random guys and go back to a hotel room with bunch of random guys and sleep with them.  Ever heard of the story of a Punjabi wife taking her husbands sister out to vegas to meet up with their boyfriends and it was all caught on video by a private eye. Who ever thinks this is a rare, is living in the 50s when it comes to western Punjabi women.  These western Punjabi girls go on their stag/Bachelorette parties to hook up with random guys.  They are not sitting around in hotel rooms playing monopoly.  And these girls excuse, my soon to be husband will do the same or my husband is doing the same, so why can't I.  This is how intelligent these girls are.  And you call them idealistic.  Sitting on a beach half naked is ideal for you?    UK or any other western girl never tell their husband or future husband about what they have done in these settings.  So, they tell you they don't want to live with their father and mother inlaw. and you praise them for being rude and selfish?  Must be a giddar of a son who will accept a woman in his life that doesn't want to live with the inlaws.  That is such honesty, you should give these girls a prize, maybe a trip to Vegas for four nights.  These girls can't make their father in-law 3 meals a day, but can walk their dog and pick up the dogs cr*p to throw away in the garbage?  Talk about messed up morals.  What was the reason you praised them, because they tell you straight up, I will not be living with the in-laws.  You are the man in the house forsure!!      

Guys who have rishta in India from good families who took care of their daughters never have an issue of plotting and planning against inlaws.  The girls come here, get educated and attain good jobs.  They have no desire to go out clubbing or boozing and grinding on random guys.  They don't have a past in regards to dating or going around with a guy.  They have manners and get treated with respect as well.  Not like the western Punjabi girls, they have put fear in the in-laws and demand it even though she is dressed half naked in front of her father in-law.  Having drinking competitions with the husband and his friends, she's such a good girl, made me breakfast after a year.  I just got to get her a little more drunk and maybe she will make me dinner. 

I have stories regarding the dastar wearing and jora keeping western Punjabi girls as well.  I call it the biba putt syndrome.  Let's see how thick of a blanket you want to put on these western girls misdeeds.   

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2 hours ago, Akalifauj said:

I'm not surprised you see things this way, after all you call water impure and alcohol as pure.  You praise the slander of others and justify it, but hate the slander of your forum husband harsharan after he praises false teachings.  Your like hitler, I hate/killed everyone else, but I'm a vegetarian. 

That is insulting. She called u paji a respected brother and u paired her name up with someone?

Anyway, wat ur trying to defend is wrong. Everyone in this forum would be glad to say indian girls are better. But sadly they are not. Have you not heard the stories of of indian girls getting married, waiting for citzenship and then running away? 

And certainly rural girls are not better. When my american cousin went to india, the neighbors girl in the pind, convinced her to get a boyfriend. The pind Gurudwara has a school for boys to learn santhiya and katha. And thats who the neighbors girl got my cousin into contact with. And this is just one incident but since girls now go to schools, go learn sewing, beauty parlor, and other things the pind girls have alot of chances to misbehave. And they r motivated to misbehave due to drama serials, bollywood, and other bad girls. 

There r good girls too. Like one girl i met who said she would never refuse an arranged marriage because it would be a daagh on her dads pagh.

But theres no way to tell who is good or bad. Thats the point. Just being from a pind in not enough now to ensure ur moral character. The only way to make sure is that u know the family. Like ur dads friend vouches for this other family. Even then be careful of vicholas. Basically in arranged marriage the parents should make sure that the pair is compatible and to do that u must know both of them. So yes lots of marriages r happening between close acquaintances: 1) ppl want to help ppl they know come to the west instead  of strangers 2) less risk if u know the ppl

So in my family, 2 marriages happened where a guy from my nanas family married a girl from my nanis family

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