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Sant Jarnail Singh Ji and the Akali-Dal


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4 hours ago, KhoonKaBadlaKhoon said:

Another reason we are not taken seriously, Akalis or any other pindu they come out and throw numbers like "ik lakh do lakh Sikh maar te" without giving anything to back the statement up. Even if you go by khalras numbers I don't think even close to 100k people were killed by Punjab police. 

Khalara actually researched his subject, I have always believed that the Akalis did him in. 

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18 minutes ago, 13Mirch said:

Khalara actually researched his subject, I have always believed that the Akalis did him in. 

That kutthaa badal and kps gill discussed how to eliminate khalra, and gill openly wrote in a newspaper that he will make him the next victim of hundreds of thousands of already killed sikhs, if he didnt stop "stickin his nose" in the genocidal campaigns. Which other country in the world wud allow this to happen in a newspaper openly? 

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On 30/12/2016 at 10:31 AM, StarStriker said:

how do u know research wasnt done on this? U can clearly see the source written at the bottom of the picture, from a book, which i have recently purchased. Inderjeet singh did ground level research, not to mention he asked human rights orgs/courts, which is how he got the figures in 1st place. If this had been written by a gorah, wud u have questioned the figures? Stop denying the facts. We have had convos on this b4, go back to those threads n re-read wat i wrote on their, coz i cant b arsed to repeat everyfink all overagain.

The akali dal have been responsible for majority of sikh deaths since the 1970s, gal kattam!

I have read the book twice, I know exactly what is written in it. And about the sources lol. Fact is 200k Sikhs were not killed. 

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On 30/12/2016 at 2:34 PM, 13Mirch said:

Khalara actually researched his subject, I have always believed that the Akalis did him in. 

I wouldn't be surprised at all, the Akali leaders who were on board with Delhi and Punjab Police were in on everything. Those who weren't on board faced repeated harrassment. 

1 hour ago, StarStriker said:

Meh, whatever, and wat is ur estimated death count of sikhs from 1977-1995? this includes deaths of all over india.

To be honest that is something too difficult to put a number on. Especially across India, doubt anyone has even kept an estimate number on that. But for 80s to 1993 Punjab, I'd say 50k max total, for Hindus Sikhs and Delhi forces. 

 

What I do know is that Punjab has 12,000 villages, if a govt wanted too it could go to each village and get a count of Sikhs killed by police. Wouldnt be much more difficult than doing a census count. 

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It's easy throwing around numbers like 10,000 killed in Blue Star, but do post something to back that claim as well. 

Hondh chillar is one that was discovered, which other such villages have been found? None from what I know. 

I want to know the truth of how many of our people were really killed, factual numbers, not understated numbers or blown out of porportion. 

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On 02/01/2017 at 9:26 PM, KhoonKaBadlaKhoon said:

It's easy throwing around numbers like 10,000 killed in Blue Star, but do post something to back that claim as well. 

Hondh chillar is one that was discovered, which other such villages have been found? None from what I know. 

I want to know the truth of how many of our people were really killed, factual numbers, not understated numbers or blown out of porportion. 

just talk to te jodha ghar sewadars they had to clear out over 10,000 pairs of shoes  besides we know 100,000 regularly show up for gurpurab programs easy at Harmandir Sahib.

thing is so many victims were burnt after their deaths and thus disappeared , when people went to report their loved ones disappearence either they were disappeared or the FIR was refused to be taken. In that circumstance much like Rwanda the true number of deaths may never be known but it will not be below the ones quoted by human rights organisations on the ground. 

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2 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

just talk to te jodha ghar sewadars they had to clear out over 10,000 pairs of shoes  besides we know 100,000 regularly show up for gurpurab programs easy at Harmandir Sahib.

thing is so many victims were burnt after their deaths and thus disappeared , when people went to report their loved ones disappearence either they were disappeared or the FIR was refused to be taken. In that circumstance much like Rwanda the true number of deaths may never be known but it will not 

I have heard this said many times, but have never seen a source for this OR someone who has actually talked to these sevadaars. Also, think about everyone who was arrested and likely not allowed to get their shoes, or the survivors who probably left without their shoes. Or maybe the sevadaars weren't present when these people came looking for their shoes and they just left? 

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