Animal fat in new £5 note offensive, says Sikh activist

[simran345]

3 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

what about the fact that most money is handled by tobacco users and drug users at some point are we going to literally launder money to make it sucha ? My contention is golak should be removed from in front of guru ji and placed at the back of the hall so that we do not figuratively and literally place Maya in front of Guru ji

This is a good idea. At relatives paats and weddings, the emphasis is normally on the golak to see how much somebody puts in. But then people will say, any charava should be in front of Maharaj ji, which also people has sharda in their hearts. 

[Big_Tera]

All money is dirty.

The one with the pure heart only has wealth of love and peace. 

[jkvlondon]

3 hours ago, simran345 said:

This is a good idea. At relatives paats and weddings, the emphasis is normally on the golak to see how much somebody puts in. But then people will say, any charava should be in front of Maharaj ji, which also people has sharda in their hearts. 

it's still in front of Guru ji , just not in front of sangat's view of Guru ji , if we submit our chardva  then we can do our benti and pranam without duniya's filth in our attention or hand, I mean if we can put langar chardva to one side why not the money , Guru ji jaani jaan aa ...so those who complain put money for dikiva not sharda. 

[Guest Jacfsing2]

So are British Sikhs becoming PETA or something? They got hundereds of problems and this shouldn't be one of them.

[sikhni777]

We do take our leather shoes and handbags to Guradwara. Sometimes in the langar people forget to check the ingredients of sweets and gelatine sweets go floating around being served to sangat. 

All money has touched many many hands before we even touch it. Are our hands suche after matha tek ? So we go and wash them again ? No, we just simply take parshaad in our hands and eat it. How many meat eating hands must have handled it before. People having their lunch and not washing their hands and counting their money later. 

We ourselves are made out of meat and blood and we take ourselves to the Guradwara, and sit and pray from the Guru Granth Sahib. 

Real sucham is the purity of our thoughts. We take the dust from the shoes of the saints and place it on our forehead. Do we consider it dirty then?

Just the thought of a little meat product in a note however freaks us out greatly. However it does not matter how we earned the fiver. it may have been earned from selling a meat product. The Christians used to offer animal sacrifices to God at one time. Guru Nanak Dev Ji has given us guidance on what is true sucham. 

 

[luckysingh99]

48 minutes ago, sikhni777 said:

We do take our leather shoes and handbags to Guradwara. Sometimes in the langar people forget to check the ingredients of sweets and gelatine sweets go floating around being served to sangat. 

All money has touched many many hands before we even touch it. Are our hands suche after matha tek ? So we go and wash them again ? No, we just simply take parshaad in our hands and eat it. How many meat eating hands must have handled it before. People having their lunch and not washing their hands and counting their money later. 

We ourselves are made out of meat and blood and we take ourselves to the Guradwara, and sit and pray from the Guru Granth Sahib. 

Real sucham is the purity of our thoughts. We take the dust from the shoes of the saints and place it on our forehead. Do we consider it dirty then?

Just the thought of a little meat product in a note however freaks us out greatly. However it does not matter how we earned the fiver. it may have been earned from selling a meat product. The Christians used to offer animal sacrifices to God at one time. Guru Nanak Dev Ji has given us guidance on what is true sucham. 

 

Well done, a true answer

[Akalifauj]

9 hours ago, sikhni777 said:

We do take our leather shoes and handbags to Guradwara. Sometimes in the langar people forget to check the ingredients of sweets and gelatine sweets go floating around being served to sangat. 

All money has touched many many hands before we even touch it. Are our hands suche after matha tek ? So we go and wash them again ? No, we just simply take parshaad in our hands and eat it. How many meat eating hands must have handled it before. People having their lunch and not washing their hands and counting their money later. 

We ourselves are made out of meat and blood and we take ourselves to the Guradwara, and sit and pray from the Guru Granth Sahib. 

Real sucham is the purity of our thoughts. We take the dust from the shoes of the saints and place it on our forehead. Do we consider it dirty then?

Just the thought of a little meat product in a note however freaks us out greatly. However it does not matter how we earned the fiver. it may have been earned from selling a meat product. The Christians used to offer animal sacrifices to God at one time. Guru Nanak Dev Ji has given us guidance on what is true sucham. 

 

You have mixed and mashed cleaning the body and the spiritual "cleaning".  Guru Nanak Dev ji went against body cleansing to cleanse the mind.  Only the Guru can cleanse the mind.  But we need to cleanse the body to stay healthy and respect Guru Sahib. 

Money does have many types of drugs on it, but another person's ignorance should not be your escape hole to say let meat be in money.  Instead people should be made aware and corrective actions should be taken.  

[Cisco_Singh]

The over the top Vegan crew at it again...so it's ok to play tabla on Gurdwaras which ever since Puratan times use the skins of jhatkad goats.. and it's ok to use chaur whisk to keep dust and flies away from Mahatajs saroops...the chaur/whisk is traditionally horse hair... plenty of other examples I could give as well..

But...ooohhh nooo five pound notes use animal fat...whatever shall we do about this beadbi...How does non issues such as this rubbish even make the news ? 

 

[Akalifauj]

15 hours ago, Cisco_Singh said:

The over the top Vegan crew at it again...so it's ok to play tabla on Gurdwaras which ever since Puratan times use the skins of jhatkad goats.. and it's ok to use chaur whisk to keep dust and flies away from Mahatajs saroops...the chaur/whisk is traditionally horse hair... plenty of other examples I could give as well..

But...ooohhh nooo five pound notes use animal fat...whatever shall we do about this beadbi...How does non issues such as this rubbish even make the news ? 

 

Not a vegan.  Funny how the new generation all of a sudden started using jhatka in everyone meat debate now.  You have no historical sources to say they were jhatka or what method was used to kill the animals to make tablas.  It could be the animal died of old age and it was used for the tabla.  Your argument follows this line of thinking.  The Gurus wore a Kalgi so I can also wear a Kalgi.  In this way of thinking, you drop the reason why the Guru wore the Kalgi and adapt a false reason; Guru did it, so can I.  Equating yourself to the Guru  The Gurus got the Tabla made and the Chaur Sahib from horse hair.  This was their actions and it's to be accepted.  But it can't be equated to the current example of currency having meat because;

a) the gurus didn't do it.  Purantan Gursikhs made currency and used coins.   

b) there is no need for an animal to die to make money.  It's a piece of paper making trade easier and nothing more.     

[sikhni777]

Simply defeats me why Akalifauj cannot simply just give his own opinion but has to include a discredit to the opinions of other members.  You simply just don't build on anything,  but have to criticize and discredit.