Why I'm not going to listen to few Sikhs asking me not to celebrate Diwali

[singhbj singh]

Our worldview is distinctly universal - and not separatist

http://www.dailyo.in/lifestyle/diwali-sikhs-guru-granth-sahib-social-media-whatsapp-eid-christmas/story/1/13727.html

[Guest Jacfsing2]

1 hour ago, singhbj singh said:

Our worldview is distinctly universal - and not separatist

http://www.dailyo.in/lifestyle/diwali-sikhs-guru-granth-sahib-social-media-whatsapp-eid-christmas/story/1/13727.html

Daas wouldn't celebrate Christmas, Easter, or any other Non-Sikh religious holiday. We have much more bigger things to do, let the Non-Sikhs do what they want, but it's not us. One of the Hindu Gods, Krishna, was playing around like a gay guy with Kansa Kesh and killed the man, would any Gursikh tolerate Kesh beadbi, regardless whether they were good or not. (And yes it's true Krishna was playing around with Kansa Kesh and took his Kesh and played around so much that it killed him).

[Akalifauj]

His reasoning is based on a false premise.  He states:

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It (Diwali), would help me evolve as a universal human - and that essentially is the message of the Guru Granth Sahib.

Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji does not teach to be a universal human.  Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji teaches a person to follow the teaches of gurmat and become a Sikh.  Sakhi of Sri Guru Nanak Dev ji rejecting the janeu is widely known.  The sakhi tells us, Sri Guru Nanak Dev ji did not accept the janeu, which was a Brahmin celebration festival.  Notice how the writer never writes how he would celebrate Diwali.  Ask these guys why are they celebrating and they won't know why.  Sri Guru Nanak Dev ji taught Sikhs to be mindful of their actions.  Also notice how such writers never write to tell why they would be celebrating the release of Sri Guru Hargobind Sahib ji even though the Indian government will not be.  This writer mind is enslaved to the materialistic world.  He knew the materialistic world would approve of his message and he catered to them.   

[jkvlondon]

he's just been asked to write piece to prove that he doesn't hold anti-bahmin thoughts for his job ... sellout...

anyway we can find out which other kings and princes were released by Guru ji  so we can do parchaar to their now kingdoms ? 

[Jonny101]

11 hours ago, Jacfsing2 said:

Daas wouldn't celebrate Christmas, Easter, or any other Non-Sikh religious holiday. We have much more bigger things to do, let the Non-Sikhs do what they want, but it's not us. One of the Hindu Gods, Krishna, was playing around like a gay guy with Kansa Kesh and killed the man, would any Gursikh tolerate Kesh beadbi, regardless whether they were good or not. (And yes it's true Krishna was playing around with Kansa Kesh and took his Kesh and played around so much that it killed him).

It is not gay thing because Guru Sahib says in Chandi Di Vaar that Krishan recieved his power from Vaheguru that he was able to defeat Kans by grabbing his kesh and throwing him. Kans was a paapi who did not even spare babies and killed them ruthlessly.

[Akalifauj]

3 hours ago, Preeet said:

Omg, how can you say that about someone, especially the satguru of dwapur yugam who SAVED humans from his wrath?? Sri Krishna has more gyan than all of us here, live by hum nehi chunga bura nehi koi! Not by saying they are bad and I'm bad too.

Where in Gurbani has Vaheguru ever given the title of Satguru to Krishna?  

[Akalifauj]

40 minutes ago, Preeet said:

ਦੁਆਪੁਰਿ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਹਰੀ ਕ੍ਰਿਸਨ ਹਾਹਾ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਜਪਾਵੈ।
Duaapari Satigur Haree Krisan Haahaa Hari Hari Naamu Japaavai.
दुआपरि सतिगुर हरी क्रिसन हाहा हरि हरि नामु जपावै ।
The true Guru of dvapar is said to be Harikrsna and ‘H’ of Vahiguru reminds of Hari.
2 ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੧ ਪਉੜੀ ੪੯ ਪੰ. ੨

Followers of Sri Guru Sahib ji can interpret it as they'd like.

Krishna in Gurbani, by Sri Guru Nanak Dev ji has been criticized for calling himself great because he, Krishna is great because he put a nose ring in a king cobra. Sri Guru Nanak Dev ji mocks Krushna and says vaheguru can do many great things; your 'achievement' is nothing. So we can interpret Gurbani as we like???? What is this Lord of the rings and the Gods are battling each other.  Will one satguru critically insult another Satguru actions.  Maybe in your folklore beliefs but never in Sikhi because Satguru is NEVER wrong.  But Krishna has been shown to be wrong by Sri Guru Nanak Dev ji.

[Akalifauj]

Just now, Preeet said:

Dear, the route of actions is through Sri Vaheguru Sahib ji, what needs to be understood is that everything done by Sri Krishna ji was in hukam, as you too are part of hukam. So rather than defaming others, why not accept the belief that all are pure due to all actions being from Sri Vaheguru Sahib ji. Forget duality(which is the reason for all pain).

ਆਪੇ ਸੁਣਿ ਸਭ ਵੇਖਦਾ ਪਿਆਰਾ ਮੁਖਿ ਬੋਲੇ ਆਪਿ ਮੁਹਾਹੁ ॥
आपे सुणि सभ वेखदा पिआरा मुखि बोले आपि मुहाहु ॥
Āpe suṇ sabẖ vekẖ▫ḏā pi▫ārā mukẖ bole āp muhāhu.
The Beloved Himself sees and hears everything; He Himself speaks through the mouths of all beings.
 

I didn't criticize Krishna in Gurbani.  Sri Guru Nanak Dev ji criticized Krishna for saying he's powerful by putting a ring in a king cobra.  By your above post you are saying Sri Guru Nanak Dev ji was in duality.  You are the most deluded poster I have yet to witness here.  Even the missionaries are better than you.  You insult Sri Guru Nanak Dev ji to protect your fault filled Krishna.  You are a Hindu becUse only a thief would insult Sri Guru Nanak Dev ji.

[Akalifauj]

2 minutes ago, Preeet said:

& that's okay for anyone to think this about my soul. Sri Guru Nanak Dev ji agrees with hum nahi chunga bura nahi koi (thus no duality), so I have a benti that you should refrain from speaking harsh words towards anyone, and anything. 

Do you have any remorse or apology for saying Sri Guru Nanak Dev ji is in duality for criticizing Krishna in Gurbani and Sri Guru Nanak Dev ji did not realize that all actions are in hukam of Vaheguru?

[Guest Jacfsing2]

On 10/31/2016 at 6:52 PM, Jonny101 said:

It is not gay thing because Guru Sahib says in Chandi Di Vaar that Krishan recieved his power from Vaheguru that he was able to defeat Kans by grabbing his kesh and throwing him. Kans was a paapi who did not even spare babies and killed them ruthlessly.

Honestly respect your answer more than Preet, because you at least don't call Krishna God, Chandi Di Vaar says Indra was a coward who needed some help from some other person not even related to his kingdom. If you realize there used to a picture in some Gurdwara where it showed all 330 million Hindu/(False), gods bowing to the great Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji, (Vaheguru in Sargun Form) but it was later removed by the "All religions are equal" batch of Sikhs, Are you one of those Sikhs who believe all religions are equal, or do you believe in actually saying there is no one greater than Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji? (By the way even Krishna bows to Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji among those in the picture, and how else was he going to get his powers?)

15 hours ago, Preeet said:

Omg, how can you say that about someone, especially the satguru of dwapur yugam who SAVED humans from his wrath?? Sri Krishna has more gyan than all of us here, live by hum nehi chunga bura nehi koi! Not by saying they are bad and I'm bad too.

Where does it say he was Satguru of Dwapur? If your referring to the Gurmantar being revealed in Bhai Gurdas Ji Di Vaaran, you might want to understand that Gurdas wasn't bowing to Krishna, but rather saying all the other yugs failed in the aspect of Vaheguru being Pargat.