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Sat sree akal....this is Dev Kamal Singh from j&k. I am new to this group and have a topic to debate..how are gurdwara prabhandak committees helping our religion...40% gals from our religion are marrying non Sikhs.....soon this could reach 70% if we don't act about this......with all due respect so called liberals within our religion and those having affinity towards Muslims need a wake-up call...hello guys aren't these guys the ones who killed our gurus with so much brutality.... they do mischievous acts with our girls.  They blackmail our gals marry them raise kids I mean filthy Muslims Nd then leave them.                            It is the duty of parents to teach their kids Nd ensure their daughters marry Sikh turbaned guys ...that is the only way religion will grow Nd prosper....              one more thing I would really appreciate if someone tell these jathedaars to not only sleep on our hard earned money....register each Nd every Sikh on a portal ...start their counselling....count our numbers which are dwindling so fast....Nd now gals marrying non Sikh guys.....time for fast action Nd introspection.....parents hv to look whom their kids are getting behind their back .... counselling has to be right...I think my message is being conveyed.....just a simple exercise take a sample of 20 Sikh girls around yourself....hv a look how many of them marry Sikhs.....how many Sikhs do drugs .....reasons behind that....no jobs ......high time save Sikhi....only we can do it.....I m myself 29 years old Nd I think Sikh youth have a high responsibility 

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