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17 minutes ago, N30S1NGH said:

And how do you know that? Where is your stats? Its quite relative based on individual cases. I have known atleast two couples woman is sikh and guy is non sikh. She is raising the kids as sikhs. I think We have our own example on this forum who married brazilian - non sikh - interfaith also raising kids as sikhs.

Every couple I know and read of who are mixed faith Sikhs have not produced Sikh kids who stayed Sikhs even if they were brought up as Sikhs in the beginning.

There is this half white christian and half punjabi Sikh girl on facebook famous for being a slag and always boasting that she is a khalistani yet sleeps around with muslim guys and non-sikhs when she feels like it then goes back to Sikhi once shes bored and so forth. I'm sure you've seen her on facebook if not I can give you her profile link.

there is this half white half punjabi Sikh girl on instagram who also had a Sikh punjabi dad and and atheist white mother she followed her mothers footsteps and the dad from being a religious Sikh guy become a hippy lilly liberal atheist. Net result she has become a trippy hippy rasthafarian pot using drug taking buddhist sleeping around with black guys.

I can go on and on and on I have never come across example of interfaith Sikh marriage where the couple produced Sikh kids proud and strong in their faith. And this is the heart and core of the issue it isnt about race it isnt about caste it isnt about gender its about religious demographics.

THE FUTURE WELL BEING OF SIKHI  !!!!! what do you lily liberal hippy anti-sikh fools not get about this!!!!! have you seen the conditions of the yazidi's, zoroestertians?  jews population (they luckily still have a country though)  thats us in 20 years time if we do not fix up right now.

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10 minutes ago, genie said:

THE FUTURE WELL BEING OF SIKHI!!!!! what do you lily liberal hippy anti-sikh fools not get about this!!!!! have you seen the conditions of ther yazidi's, zoroestertians, jews population (they luckily still have a country) ? thats us in 20 years time if we do not fix up right now.

Right wing fanatics always so paranoid live in fear, hysteria have absolutely no faith in gurbani as guru drawing people in mysterious ways. Let me make it clear for you- Gurbani is LIVE LIVING GURU operating perfectly fine as back drop as LIVE force without any support from anybody to bring people in, it does not need one conditioned limited self righteousness limited peanut mindset arbitrary crashing wedding. If anything, right wing self righteous mobs tried to shut off their own guru speaking as sermon in anand karaj to couples. Now thats a biggest beadhi, let what i said sink into you and contemplate. May be they can self reflect what beadhis they have done- blocking their own guru from speaking in anand karaj to couples.

 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, N30S1NGH said:

Right wing fanatics always so paranoid live in fear, hysteria have absolutely no faith in gurbani as guru drawing people in mysterious ways. Let me make it clear for you- Gurbani is LIVE LIVING GURU operating perfectly fine as back drop as LIVE force without any support from anybody to bring people in, it does not need one conditioned limited self righteousness limited peanut mindset to arbitrary crashing wedding. If anything, right wing self righteous mobss tried to shut off their own guru speaking as sermon in anand karaj to couples. Now thats a biggest beadhi, let what i said sink into you and contemplate. May be they can self reflect what beadhis they have done- blocking their own guru from speaking in anand karaj to couples.

 

 

 

No you left wing liberal fanatics are dangarous for Sikhi and our demographics. You lot need to be excommunited into the "sant nirankari" fold truely disgusting individuals.

You want to hold hostage our Guru to his own beadhi by letting him bless a non-believer to marry his believer? What drugs are you on!!! are you still a Sikh? come back to Sikhi or go join the camp of the hippy anti-sikh heretics.

Yes some protestors do take things too far those who are violent inside gurdwara need to be named and shamed and kicked out. But those who do not protest while guru's beadhi is taking place then what can I say how are they bow down to guru ji and not feel shame. Waheguru only knows.

 

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8 minutes ago, N30S1NGH said:

Right wing fanatics always so paranoid live in fear, hysteria have absolutely no faith in gurbani as guru drawing people in mysterious ways. Let me make it clear for you- Gurbani is LIVE LIVING GURU operating perfectly fine as back drop as LIVE force without any support from anybody to bring people in, it does not need one conditioned limited self righteousness limited peanut mindset arbitrary crashing wedding. If anything, right wing self righteous mobs tried to shut off their own guru speaking as sermon in anand karaj to couples. Now thats a biggest beadhi, let what i said sink into you and contemplate. May be they can self reflect what beadhis they have done- blocking their own guru from speaking in anand karaj to couples.

 

 

 

try reading sometime ...they turned up for morning nitnem before 6am and stayed doing naam jap ...there was no wedding to be crashed ...plus which person in that couple was going to make Guru ji the centre of their life ?? neither cared about or tried to understand the numerous refusals they received in other gurdwarey but just kept hammering on until they found a committee member who put paise above Guru ji's maryada.

both of the families knew they were doing something which most gurdwarey in their neighbourhood refused to do, that's why they had to go outside their hometown to find a place . They could have tried to explain to their daughter and her fiance that a registry marriage would be best and then do a sukhmani sahib paat and get hukamnama but they didn't because they also didn't respect Guru ji just worried about face.

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27 minutes ago, DhadrianwaleZindabad said:

What is the eventual long term goal of protesting at Anand Karaj's in western countries where 99% of the population are non-Sikhs? It is totally inevitable that 1% demographic minorities will intermarry.

Why are we not focussing on bigger issues that pose far bigger threats to the community?

Let's say, for example, every generation the protestors manage to block 20% of Anand Karaj's and successfully push the brides and grooms away from Sikhi ... how many generations will it be that the population of future Sikhs even willing to get an Anand Karaj will be left utterly negligible?

In the UK there might be 50,000 of marriageable age in 2016.

Block 20% from an Anand Karaj and you are left with 40,000

Next generation another 25% of the 40,000 left are blocked

... and so on increasing each following generation.

... until eventually the Sikh community in a Diaspora country is left demographically insignificant.

Surely, it would be better to try use someone's willing participation in an Anand Karaj as an acceptance that they are new Sikhs - as those who bow down before Sri Guru Granth Sahib J Maharaj are.

And to use this blessed occasion to integrate these new (Sikh) spouses within the fold of the Sikh Panth.

Obviously it is important the spouse rejects anti-Sikh concepts supported by Abrahamic religions such as slavery, pedophilia and violence against women as these are anti-Sikh concepts that no Sikh could tolerate being imposed on their own daughter.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think best solution is make it impossible for any corrupt gurdwara commitee to hold an shame mixed faith anand karaj sikh marriage to take palce within a gurdwara.

we know the future is about mixing but the mixing should be between the races/ethnicities/nationalities within Sikhism not different faiths that would be a diastar for Sikhism and other faith communities like the jews and other smaller population faiths. They and us are particular vunerable to demographic trends and shifts as their population is as small as ours and their womenfolk are very lilly liberal just like ours. Abrahmic missionary faiths on the other hand like christian evalanganists and muslims and non God ideologies like atheists will grow in number because they actively want to encourage their ideology on to their partner and next generation.

So Sikhs have got a choice let things continue as they do let people hold sham anti-sikh mixed faith weddings and see steap decline in Sikhs and those attending gurdwara in coming next years. Or stop the rot now and say your non-sikh partner must convert or marry a born sikh only if you want anand karaj.

Getting people to emrbace Sikhi is a long term goal but as most sikhs are lazy left wing lilly liberal hippys that do not want to invite non-sikhs into Sikhi but just enjoy their own spiritual selfish setup.

 

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1 hour ago, genie said:

Every couple I know and read of who are mixed faith Sikhs have not produced Sikh kids who stayed Sikhs even if they were brought up as Sikhs in the beginning.

There is this half white christian and half punjabi Sikh girl on facebook famous for being a slag and always boasting that she is a khalistani yet sleeps around with muslim guys and non-sikhs when she feels like it then goes back to Sikhi once shes bored and so forth. I'm sure you've seen her on facebook if not I can give you her profile link.

there is this half white half punjabi Sikh girl on instagram who also had a Sikh punjabi dad and and atheist white mother she followed her mothers footsteps and the dad from being a religious Sikh guy become a hippy lilly liberal atheist. Net result she has become a trippy hippy rasthafarian pot using drug taking buddhist sleeping around with black guys.

I can go on and on and on I have never come across example of interfaith Sikh marriage where the couple produced Sikh kids proud and strong in their faith. And this is the heart and core of the issue it isnt about race it isnt about caste it isnt about gender its about religious demographics.

THE FUTURE WELL BEING OF SIKHI  !!!!! what do you lily liberal hippy anti-sikh fools not get about this!!!!! have you seen the conditions of the yazidi's, zoroestertians?  jews population (they luckily still have a country though)  thats us in 20 years time if we do not fix up right now.

Blood, wats the links to these 2 individuals sl@gs online u r talkin of?

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Although I support the protests, I feel they’re beginning to do more harm than good. The negative media attention is destructive (and cringeworthy); the news today has made us out to be knife wielding criminals. And the popular but extremely ignorant opinion of liberal “Sikhs” doesn’t seem to help. This recent episode makes me think Kirpana are going to get banned if they carry on like this.

The protests aren’t really working IMO or if they are considered to be working, their overall effect is definitely detrimental.

Anyway, protesting in places like Leamington, which is full of atheist Punjabi phudus, is an exercise in futility.

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