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hello, just wondering can we read bani from dasam granth everyday? like can we read chandi di vaar everyday?

i have anxiety problems and i take prescribed medication for it. im male 23. not amritdhari but i dont eat meat or drink etc

iv read things online like you cant read bani from dasam granth everyday, and things like you cant read chandi di vaar at night before going to sleep!

is all this true? its bani so there really shouldn't be any restrictions to it, should there?

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Veer ji first of all i am not amritdhari yet and secondly yes Chandi Di Vaar can be read everyday as long as it done before sunset with Sukhmani Sahib and 5 bani's cos many people can't handle the Bir Ras.

I myself was afraid before even listening to it let alone reading it

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ms514    433

VAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA, VAHEGURU JI KI FATEH

Every Amritdhari Sikh is prescribed reading Dasam Bani daily - Jaap Sahib, Tav Prasad Saviyae, Chaupai Sahib. Read away, whenever. No restrictions.

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Akalifauj    792

hello, just wondering can we read bani from dasam granth everyday? like can we read chandi di vaar everyday?

i have anxiety problems and i take prescribed medication for it. im male 23. not amritdhari but i dont eat meat or drink etc

iv read things online like you cant read bani from dasam granth everyday, and things like you cant read chandi di vaar at night before going to sleep!

is all this true? its bani so there really shouldn't be any restrictions to it, should there?

thanks

There are no such restrictions. Read Chandi di vaar when and how many times you want. Read Dasam Bani as much as you want.

Bir ras is misunderstood.

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Guest Nimma   
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If u really love dasam pita ji, do ardas and read as much bani as u want without any restriction.

If u make any mistake(if any) dasam pita jee will make u undertand about it, just like a dad helps one year kid

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Akalifauj    792

If you read Chandi Di Vaar at the evening, you must read it continuously till amritvela (the next day).. You also should light a jyoti and incense non stop.

If you start reciting the prayer of Chandi di Vaar after sunset then, one must keep reciting it continuously through the night until dawn. Two or more Singhs may take turns to recite this prayer through the night, it is all right to do so. One must sit upon a clean mat or bed, bathing before reciting the prayer. An oil lamp lit with clarified butter should be kept alight throughout the night. During the day, one can recite Chandi di Vaar as many times as one wants. There is no specific practice to reciting the prayer except that one reads the prayer with devotion and understanding.

I have read this before and Sri Guru Gobind Singh ji put no such stipulation on Chandi di vaar. The beginning of Chandi di vaar is ardas which the khalsa has done billions of times after sunset. Then some people say it can only be done standing. Another stipulation that Guru sahib never put on but today people want to add manmat.

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Bundha    584

Bhaji, this is not manmat.

Khalsa recited Chandi dhi vaar because of bir rass that was needed for the tumultuous times that they lived in when battle was an ever present thing.

Chandi dhi vaar is an account of chandi doing battle with the dhents, in essence you are remembering chandi, and what happens when you keep remembering someone? that person will come.

Why do we recite GURBANI? so that Guru will come, that we will be close to the Guru, that we will merge into the shabad.

You keep reciting chandi dhi vaar and Chandi will come. and who has the naam/simran or spiritual level to be able to endure her terrible form? Once she comes she ain't going anywhere then how you going to get rid of her? You do not know, you are in a mess now.

I would suggest if you want to do bani from Dasam Granth Sahib Ji, recite Akaal Ustat. Infact recite the first chaupai from Akaal Ustat - Pranvo aadh ekan-kara recite this day and night whenever you are doing your daily work . . . . . and Guru Gobind Singh Ji will come for sure. Who would you rather have Guru Sahib Ji or Chandi?

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Akalifauj    792

Bhaji, this is not manmat.

Khalsa recited Chandi dhi vaar because of bir rass that was needed for the tumultuous times that they lived in when battle was an ever present thing.

Chandi dhi vaar is an account of chandi doing battle with the dhents, in essence you are remembering chandi, and what happens when you keep remembering someone? that person will come.

Why do we recite GURBANI? so that Guru will come, that we will be close to the Guru, that we will merge into the shabad.

You keep reciting chandi dhi vaar and Chandi will come. and who has the naam/simran or spiritual level to be able to endure her terrible form? Once she comes she ain't going anywhere then how you going to get rid of her? You do not know, you are in a mess now.

I would suggest if you want to do bani from Dasam Granth Sahib Ji, recite Akaal Ustat. Infact recite the first chaupai from Akaal Ustat - Pranvo aadh ekan-kara recite this day and night whenever you are doing your daily work . . . . . and Guru Gobind Singh Ji will come for sure. Who would you rather have Guru Sahib Ji or Chandi?

Now I have a better understanding why the Sikhs latch on to missionary sikh preachers. It's because of people who do not understand Dasam bani by which they attribute Akal Purakh praise to chandi. Anyone would be turned away by this complete ignorance. A poster in the past tried to say chandi is being praised in chandi di vaar. But he was shut down by the great Sant Baba Gurbachan singh ji recording of chandi di vaar katha. In no way is chandi being remembered in chandi do vaar. Satguru is showing us her shortcomings by being in ego and evoking actual chandi (Akal purakh). Chandi di vaar starts by remembering Akal Purakh in the form of destroying the enemy (sword). And ends in the same way. Satguru is saying chandi thinks she is highest since a god indra came begging for her help after he lost his kingdom but right off the bat chandi is shown as hankhari (egotistical ). Satguru cuts chandi's head right off in the beginning.

Gursikh when doing ardas hold a Sri sahib in their hands. If chandi di vaar is remembering chandi(the goddess ) then why aren't these gursikhs hold a picture or statue of chandi in ardas? Learn from gurmukhs and the true meaning of any shabad will be understood.

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Thanatos    182

Bhaji, this is not manmat.

Khalsa recited Chandi dhi vaar because of bir rass that was needed for the tumultuous times that they lived in when battle was an ever present thing.

Chandi dhi vaar is an account of chandi doing battle with the dhents, in essence you are remembering chandi, and what happens when you keep remembering someone? that person will come.

Why do we recite GURBANI? so that Guru will come, that we will be close to the Guru, that we will merge into the shabad.

You keep reciting chandi dhi vaar and Chandi will come. and who has the naam/simran or spiritual level to be able to endure her terrible form? Once she comes she ain't going anywhere then how you going to get rid of her? You do not know, you are in a mess now.

I would suggest if you want to do bani from Dasam Granth Sahib Ji, recite Akaal Ustat. Infact recite the first chaupai from Akaal Ustat - Pranvo aadh ekan-kara recite this day and night whenever you are doing your daily work . . . . . and Guru Gobind Singh Ji will come for sure. Who would you rather have Guru Sahib Ji or Chandi?

I agree with everything you said but Chandi is actually extremely beautiful, Kali is the one with the terrible form, if she were to appear you'd be able to look at her no problem. She's so much lower than Guru Sahib Ji though and since this is Gurbani we're invoking the protection of MahaKaal not Chandi as in the beginning of the Vaar it's even said She got her power from Akaal.

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I agree with everything you said but Chandi is actually extremely beautiful, Kali is the one with the terrible form, if she were to appear you'd be able to look at her no problem. She's so much lower than Guru Sahib Ji though and since this is Gurbani we're invoking the protection of MahaKaal not Chandi as in the beginning of the Vaar it's even said She got her power from Akaal.

Daas thought they both were the same; (unless by Chandi you mean Shastar, instead of Durga?) Yes; they are both weaker than Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji-Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.

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Thanatos    182

Daas thought they both were the same; (unless by Chandi you mean Shastar, instead of Durga?) Yes; they are both weaker than Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji-Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.

In Chandi Charitar if memory serves right Kali and Chandi are described as separate entities, then in Chandi di Vaar, to kill Sranwat Beej Kali explodes from Durga's forehead to kill him and provide support for Durga.

ਚੰਡ ਪ੍ਰਚੰਡ ਅਖੰਡ ਲੀਏ ਕਰਿ ਕਾਲਿਕਾ ਕਾਲ ਹੀ ਜਿਉੇ ਅਰਜੀ ਹੈ ॥੭੫॥

चंड प्रचंड अखंड लीए करि कालिका काल ही जिउ अरजी है ॥७५॥

Highly glorious Chandi, in her blanced state, creating Kalika like death, spoke thus.75.

ਦੋਹਰਾ ॥

दोहरा ॥

DOHRA

ਨਿਰਖ ਚੰਡਕਾ ਤਾਸ ਕੋ ਤਬੈ ਬਚਨ ਇਹ ਕੀਨ ॥

निरख चंडका तास को तबै बचन इह कीन ॥

Chandika, seeing her, thus spoke to her;

ਹੇ ਪੁਤ੍ਰੀ ਤੂੰ ਕਾਲਿਕਾ ਹੋਹੁ ਜੁ ਮੁਝ ਮੈ ਲੀਨ ॥੭੬॥

हे पुत्री तूं कालिका होहु जु मुझ मै लीन ॥७६॥

O my daughter Kalika, merge in me."76.

ਸੁਨਤ ਬਚਨ ਯੇ ਚੰਡਿ ਕੋ ਤਾ ਮਹਿ ਗਈ ਸਮਾਇ ॥

सुनत बचन ये चंडि को ता महि गई समाइ ॥

Hearing these words of Chandi, she merged in her;

ਜਿਉ ਗੰਗਾ ਕੀ ਧਾਰ ਮੈ ਜਮਨਾ ਪੈਠੀ ਧਾਇ ॥੭੭॥

जिउ गंगा की धार मै जमना पैठी धाइ ॥७७॥

Like Yamuna falling into the current of Ganges.77.

Sri Kali has many beautiful forms as well, she is not limited to the battle/cremation form.

She can have unlimited forms, I don't really care about any of them except the one mentioned in Gurbani, which is the the terrible form. Pretty sure Dasam Bani only mentioned the terrible form so honestly that's all that matters, hence why I was adding in, based on the context above, about Dasam Pitas bani and NOT Hindu Mythology.

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Thanatos    182

none of it is mythology :-)

Depends on views honestly, if someone wants to deny the existence of them then fair do as they hold no real place in Sikhism except as metaphors.

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Bundha    584

Guru Granth Sahib Ji would not mention anything that was made up or mythology. Guru Ji talks the truth.

If Guru Ji talks of Krishan Ji, Ram Ji, Hanuman, Ravan, dhents, devis, kinars, ghandarvas, Parya, then it is the truth.

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Thanatos    182

Guru Granth Sahib Ji would not mention anything that was made up or mythology. Guru Ji talks the truth.

If Guru Ji talks of Krishan Ji, Ram Ji, Hanuman, Ravan, dhents, devis, kinars, ghandarvas, Parya, then it is the truth.

Guru Ji also writes in a poetic sense, in Dasam Granth Akaal Purkh is described as having a bed made of various gods. Are you saying Akaal (who's described as Nirankaar) suddenly literally has a bed? My point is the Devs don't play any role in Sikhism, you don't need to acknowledge their existence to get closer to god.

Day and Night are said to be 2 nurses, are they actually nurses? nope it's a really amazing metaphor. Literal-ism will open up a myriad of contradictions if you don't dwell deeper into the arth of Gurbani. Gurbani is an ocean, not a simple shallow pool.

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