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There is historical proof when Gurgaddi was transferred. In Bhatt Vahi, Bhatt Narbud Singh writes Guru Gobind Singh Ji gave Gurgaddi to Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj.

While Sri Dasam Granth is important to our Ithaas and contains Baanis we do in Nitnem, we need to also realize that Sri Dasam Granth is not the same as Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj.

Sri Dasam Granth is a big pothi in the sense, it is just a collection of Guru Gobind Singh Ji's baanis. There are many different Sri Dasam Granth puratan birs that have different baani from Guru Gobind Singh Jee in them.

I don't think we should Parkash Sri Dasam Granth on the same Takht that Guru Gobind Singh Ji gave for Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Maybe a better option is to do Katha of Dasam Baani, that will have a better affect.

Sarabloh Granth needs more research done, I doubt anyone here has had physical darshan of Sarabloh Granth. And the few scholars who have seen this Granth (Bhai Kahn Singh Nabha, for example) say that some writings are from Guru Gobind Singh Jee, while others are from Sikhs, or somewhere else.

Bul Chuk Muaaf!

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On 07/06/2016 at 3:56 AM, Guest XYZ said:

Interesting Stop inviting why is Sikhi not democratic. Did all Gurus jees not taught how to love the enemy. Why did Guru Nanak gave love to Sajjan Tugg. Why did Guru Nanak Dev jee sent him to hell. Do you not have the ability to listen and teach love. Why are you promoting Guru Gobind Singh jee evil. Guru Jee was not evil. Guru Jee was loving image. Sikhs themselves are promoting that Guru Gobind Singh jee was terrorist. Shame on you people. My lord forgive you first. Do you have the knowledge of every single word in Guru Granth Sahib Jee. Do you read Guru Granth Sahib jee without a Saroop. If yes then you could be right if no then your lost. Puratian Gursikhs were loving GurSikhs. They only knew how to be one with the mighty WehaGuru.

sikhi is NOT democratic because true democracy operates by only the truly invested  being the ones to make the decisions and to plan the future worldly direction of the panth i.e. sarbat Khalsa was democratic, SGPC is not

NO Guru ji did not teach love the enemy - He Taught love the truth, naam and to fight against oppression and injustice in ALL forms , spouting such nonsense lets the injust prosper and weakens the panth

There is no difference between Guru Gobind SIngh ji and Guru Nanak Dev ji  both gave Kirpa via Nadar to those deserving of it . Same way what Guru Pita ji wrote to teach us in Dasam Granth ji and Sarbloh Granth ji is vital knowledge for invested sikhs i

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On 6/6/2016 at 10:56 PM, Guest XYZ said:

Interesting Stop inviting why is Sikhi not democratic. Did all Gurus jees not taught how to love the enemy. Why did Guru Nanak gave love to Sajjan Tugg. Why did Guru Nanak Dev jee sent him to hell. Do you not have the ability to listen and teach love. Why are you promoting Guru Gobind Singh jee evil. Guru Jee was not evil. Guru Jee was loving image. Sikhs themselves are promoting that Guru Gobind Singh jee was terrorist. Shame on you people. My lord forgive you first. Do you have the knowledge of every single word in Guru Granth Sahib Jee. Do you read Guru Granth Sahib jee without a Saroop. If yes then you could be right if no then your lost. Puratian Gursikhs were loving GurSikhs. They only knew how to be one with the mighty WehaGuru.

We are not democratic, I'd say true Sikhi is closer to Anarchy than Democracy, especially since Guru Sahib himself did not surrender to kings at his time. What makes you think that Guru Sahib saving people's souls has to do with loving the enemy, there was no enemy to Guru Sahib, but rather the falsehood itself was the enemy. Also what him having to do with being all-loving has to do with him not standing-up to what's right? Who is calling Guru Sahib such terms? The only one calling him such things is your imagination. Also Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is not just a holy book, but rather Vaheguru himself, so his Saroop is extremely important, even when gyan is everywhere, only a Saroop should be in Prakash. Puraatan Gursikhs may have been more-loving, Mahapurukhs may speak of peace and love, but one thing they were not, was scared to fight for what was right.

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On 6/5/2016 at 5:21 PM, Jacfsing2 said:
On 6/5/2016 at 4:53 PM, 13Mirch said:

Either your information vis-a-vis the spearing of the Dasam Granth is wrong or either you are trying to state one thing but it's coming across as another due to incoherent writing. The culprit was Kartar Singh Jhabbar, who was staunchly opposed the Nihungs, a top brass of the S.G.P.C/ Akali commune. Gatka is only a drill, Shastar-Vidya (as taught by the Hazoori Singhs) is the real deal and not Nidar's little dance moves.

We have to start somewhere, (which is why I said Gatka, many Sikhs don't do that at the least), also it is a fact that someone did spear a Dasam Granth Saroop, (are we really going to argue if it happened or not?)

I feel that mma is more useful then gatka, also where/when did this beadbi happen? 

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8 minutes ago, SoulSingh said:

also where/when did this beadbi happen? 

Singh Sahba Movement, when Akal Takht was temporarily owned by Nihangs from an excommunicated branch among them.

9 minutes ago, SoulSingh said:

I feel that mma is more useful then gatka,

Street fighting is even more useful than MMA, but our people should start somewhere.

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1 hour ago, Jacfsing2 said:

No, the Nihangs did.

please i read that apart from beadbhi of Dasam Granth the perpetrator called the granth full of filth and threw it from the window and it was not mentioned that person was a nihang but someone in the Singh Sabha movement determined to remove the Granth from its rightful place by Guru ji's side. has no one considered the position that the two Granths of Dasmesh Pita ji act as pehradars/generals of the Guru organising the fauj? 

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1 hour ago, Jacfsing2 said:

No, the Nihangs did.

I've told you before, stop posting on subjects you know nothing about. How on earth was it the Nihangs who removed Dasam Granth after spearing the saroop?!! It was the reformist lap dogs of the British who did that after getting women to attack Baba Sahib Singh Kaladhari who was the then jathedar of Budda Dal & Akal Takhat.

They forcefully took control of Akal Takhat by removing the Nihangs & threw Dasam Granth out of a window & told the Nihangs to take their Granth with them.

you lack any sort of substance on most subjects you post on.... why don't you actually learn something before spreading lies & more ignorance... this is what is holding our panth back... the blind are leading the blind 

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3 hours ago, Mahakaal96 said:

I've told you before, stop posting on subjects you know nothing about. How on earth was it the Nihangs who removed Dasam Granth after spearing the saroop?!! It was the reformist lap dogs of the British who did that after getting women to attack Baba Sahib Singh Kaladhari who was the then jathedar of Budda Dal & Akal Takhat.

They forcefully took control of Akal Takhat by removing the Nihangs & threw Dasam Granth out of a window & told the Nihangs to take their Granth with them.

you lack any sort of substance on most subjects you post on.... why don't you actually learn something before spreading lies & more ignorance... this is what is holding our panth back... the blind are leading the blind 

Best to read some actual history sometimes instead of propaganda.

 

4 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

please i read that apart from beadbhi of Dasam Granth the perpetrator called the granth full of filth and threw it from the window and it was not mentioned that person was a nihang but someone in the Singh Sabha movement determined to remove the Granth from its rightful place by Guru ji's side. has no one considered the position that the two Granths of Dasmesh Pita ji act as pehradars/generals of the Guru organising the fauj? 

So who appeared Dasam Granth?

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