Pesh Kabz As Kirpan, Exact Definition Of A Kirpan

[Khalsa589]

waheguru ji khalsa waheguru ji fateh

was wondering if wearing a pesh kabz is a kirpan, because right now i wear taksaily kirpan which isnt sharp and i dont think can defend my self. what is the exact definition of a kirpan, does a kirpan have to be a curved shastar?

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[Guest Jacfsing2]

waheguru ji khalsa waheguru ji fateh

was wondering if wearing a pesh kabz is a kirpan, because right now i wear taksaily kirpan which isnt sharp and i dont think can defend my self. what is the exact definition of a kirpan, does a kirpan have to be a curved shastar?

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Any shastar counts as a Kirpan if it meets simple requirements: 1. Brings "Kirpa"(Grace), as a Shastar should. 2. Iron or steel, (Sarbloh/Iron is the least argued). 3. Preferably curved, (though I don't know if this is a requirement).

If it's hard to make a decision, you could do the Punj Shastar maryada, though I don't know if you want to carry 5 iron weapons everywhere you go.

[Khalsa589]

waheguru ji khalsa waheguru ji fateh

I dont think i am at a spritual level were i can do 5 shastar's maybe in future with guru ji kirpa.

I just wanted to know if it would be wrong too wear

Pesh Kabz As Kirpan,

realistic speaking a pointy shastar i think can do more damage, note i am not trained in shastar's or know that much about weapons

[Balkaar]

If we're being pedantic here, most of the kirpans we have today aren't what Guru Sahib had in mind when he made them mandatory either. 'Kirpan' for the old Khalsa meant a fully-sized tegha or tulwar, not curved daggers.

Ehai mor agiaa sun-leh piaaraay

Bina Tegh Kesang na devho deedaaray

What we can take from this is that kirpan isn't referring to any single make or style of weapon, but rather any single-bladed weapon. Don't see therefore why a peshkabz can't be worn as a kirpan.

[Guest Jacfsing2]

waheguru ji khalsa waheguru ji fateh

I dont think i am at a spritual level were i can do 5 shastar's maybe in future with guru ji kirpa.

I just wanted to know if it would be wrong too wear Pesh Kabz As Kirpan,

realistic speaking a pointy shastar i think can do more damage, note i am not trained in shastar's or know that much about weapons

You can wear a Pesh Kabz as a Kirpan, but something to note is not turning any shastar into a weapon of offense, (Talwar), but rather a shastar of daya and Gurprassad, (Kirpan). It's all about what you will do with it. (The SGPC pakhands were using a curved 'kirpan' as a Talwar, while Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji used pointy shastar as a Kirpan).

[Khalsa589]

Thx for the info guy's/girls (dont know if you a guy or girl just to make sure) (laugh>>)

do you know were to get one with belt sheath so i can just clip it on the outside of my clothes, any idea's

[Balkaar]

Thx for the info guy's/girls (dont know if you a guy or girl just to make sure) (laugh>>)

do you know were to get one with belt sheath so i can just clip it on the outside of my clothes, any idea's

You'll probably have to buy the gatra separately Singhji -

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