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What's maturity?

Definition provided by Buddhist Lamas.

1. Maturity is when you stop trying to change others, but instead focus on changing yourself.
2. Maturity is when you accept people who they are.
3. Maturity is when you understand everyone is right in their own perspective.
4. Maturity is when you learn to "let go".
5. Maturity is when you are able to drop "expectations" from a relationship and give for the sake of giving.
6. Maturity is when you understand whatever you do, you do for your own peace.
7. Maturity is when you stop proving to the world, how intelligent you are.
8. Maturity is when you do not seek approval from others.
9. Maturity is when you stop comparing with others.
10. Maturity is when you are at peace with yourself.
11. Maturity is when you are able to differentiate between "need" and "want" and are able to let go of your wants.

& last but most meaningful !

12. You gain Maturity when you stop attaching "happiness" to material things

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The Paradoxical Commandments.

People Are Illogical, Unreasonable And Self-Centered.

Love Them Anyway..

If You Do Good, People Will Accuse You Of Selfish, Ulterior Motives.

Do Good Anyway..

If You Are Successful, You Win False Friends And True Enemies.

Succeed Anyway..

The Good You Do Today Will Be Forgotten Tomorrow.

Do Good Anyway..

Honesty And Frankness Make You Vulnerable.

Be Honest And Frank Anyway..

The Biggest Persons With The Biggest Ideas Can Be Shot Down By The Smallest
Persons With The Smallest Minds.

Think Big Anyway..

People Favor Underdogs But Follow Only Top Dogs.

Fight For A Few Underdogs Anyway..

What You Spend Years Building May Be Destroyed Overnight.

Build Anyway..

People Really Need Help, But May Attack You If You Do Help Them.

Help Them Anyway..

Give The World The Best You Have And You'll Get Kicked In The Teeth.

Give The World The Best You Have Anyway..!

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Question of personality.

Once someone asked a Gyani :How to develop our personality ?

The Gyani replied: To develop your personality, you have to spend five days to have these five experiences to really blossom in your life.

You can develop your personality with these five experiences.

You have to sincerely play these five roles:

1. The first role which I would recommend to you is to be a School Teacher.

To teach lessons to children who are not learning, you need a lot of patience.

Being a nursery or primary school teacher, even for one day, you will see how you have to increase your patience.

2. Be a Gardener or spend a day with a Farmer.

If you are sowing the seeds, if you are watering the plants, you will know how you must care for water, earth and the environment.

You will have a feeling for the environment.

You will value food and you will not waste food.

You know, what we do?

We bring so much food, and we put it in the fridge and, after a few days in the refrigerator, we throw the food.

We are wasting millions and millions of tons of food every day.

We should not waste food. This we will learn if we spend one day being a farmer or a gardener.

3. You should spend a day in the mental hospital.

Whatever people talk in the mental hospital, you don’t mind.

If they scold you,

if they blame you,

if they curse you,

will you mind?

You don’t mind because you are aware that this person is mentally sick.

You know that many people are outside the hospital, but that does not mean they are mentally well.

So, in life, you come across people who blame you for nothing, who are jealous or angry, who say things that make no sense. Then, you know, you will have the patience to deal with them with a smile. You will not take the garbage inside and spoil your mind.

So one day if you spend in a mental hospital, you will know how to save your mind.

You will stop being a football of others’ opinions.

4. One day you must go to a prison. Maybe it is shocking to you.

You don’t have to do a wrong thing to go to a prison.

Just go visit a prison, spend a little time with the prisoners.

You will understand what compassion is.

What helplessness is.

Those people did a mistake without awareness.

So you will know how you must have a say on your emotions.

5. There are terminally ill people in the hospital.

One day with them, and you will realize how precious life is.

And you will start valuing health.

You will eat better,

you will exercise.

You will do all that is needed to be more vibrant in your life.

With these five days what would be the outcome?

I guess from these five days you will become

More Vibrant,

More Alive,

More Loving,

Compassionate

and Active.

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Question of personality.

Once someone asked a Gyani :How to develop our personality ?

The Gyani replied: To develop your personality, you have to spend five days to have these five experiences to really blossom in your life.

You can develop your personality with these five experiences.

You have to sincerely play these five roles:

1. The first role which I would recommend to you is to be a School Teacher.

To teach lessons to children who are not learning, you need a lot of patience.

Being a nursery or primary school teacher, even for one day, you will see how you have to increase your patience.

2. Be a Gardener or spend a day with a Farmer.

If you are sowing the seeds, if you are watering the plants, you will know how you must care for water, earth and the environment.

You will have a feeling for the environment.

You will value food and you will not waste food.

You know, what we do?

We bring so much food, and we put it in the fridge and, after a few days in the refrigerator, we throw the food.

We are wasting millions and millions of tons of food every day.

We should not waste food. This we will learn if we spend one day being a farmer or a gardener.

3. You should spend a day in the mental hospital.

Whatever people talk in the mental hospital, you dont mind.

If they scold you,

if they blame you,

if they curse you,

will you mind?

You dont mind because you are aware that this person is mentally sick.

You know that many people are outside the hospital, but that does not mean they are mentally well.

So, in life, you come across people who blame you for nothing, who are jealous or angry, who say things that make no sense. Then, you know, you will have the patience to deal with them with a smile. You will not take the garbage inside and spoil your mind.

So one day if you spend in a mental hospital, you will know how to save your mind.

You will stop being a football of others opinions.

4. One day you must go to a prison. Maybe it is shocking to you.

You dont have to do a wrong thing to go to a prison.

Just go visit a prison, spend a little time with the prisoners.

You will understand what compassion is.

What helplessness is.

Those people did a mistake without awareness.

So you will know how you must have a say on your emotions.

5. There are terminally ill people in the hospital.

One day with them, and you will realize how precious life is.

And you will start valuing health.

You will eat better,

you will exercise.

You will do all that is needed to be more vibrant in your life.

With these five days what would be the outcome?

I guess from these five days you will become

More Vibrant,

More Alive,

More Loving,

Compassionate

and Active.

That's a nice piece of writing, Harsharan Paji. I thank God for gracing me with all of those experiences, I would also like to add, it makes one understand better what others are going through and also that there are a diversity of personalities in this world, that you would never expect to see.

As one goes about their daily lives, God's creation make up Sukhi and Dukhi people and as we all pass each other, we do not know the life of somebody until they tell us. Assumption is a tricky concept. It's always assumed, one is able to cope with issues/problems just because their presentation or behaviour is normal. But when we start seeing under all of that, then the personalities start to reveal.

"More vibrant " - more determined to not give up with problems.

"More alive" - one starts to realise life is worth putting effort into to get the best from it thus making one more alert.

"More loving" - one becomes more caring towards close ones, and devoted to humanity.

"More compassionate" - understanding is obtained and those that a problem for one are tolerated better.

"More active" - lolz ? I'm afraid that's not happened with me, but my typing has become more active ? Lol.

To develop personality it would take other activities and experiences too, and that I have to learn still and long way to go, as I'm a slow learner.

?? Waheguru.

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simran345, on 31 Mar 2016 - 7:30 pm, said

"More vibrant " - more determined to not give up with problems.

"More alive" - one starts to realise life is worth putting effort into to get the best from it thus making one more alert.
"More loving" - one becomes more caring towards close ones, and devoted to humanity.
"More compassionate" - understanding is obtained and those that a problem for one are tolerated better.
"More active" - lolz I'm afraid that's not happened with me, but my typing has become more active Lol.

To develop personality it would take other activities and experiences too, and that I have to learn still and long way to go, as I'm a slow learner.
Waheguru.

Simran Pen Jee,

do not worry for being slow.

As the saying goes: slow and staedy wins the race.

Speed here is a relative adjective, cause no two people are at same levels.

The thing is, to be straightforward, sincere, honest, truthful, and to top it all, to be humble. Otherwise, the gyan, the virtues we want to get, shall never ever enter in us, they will just slip away at the entrance of our minds, cause there is no room for them, as it is fully occupied by ahankar, jealousy, envy, fakeness, and so on....

But you, do not have to worry, you have not any of these anti-virtues, rather a big heart with sympathy.

God bless you, and the rest of all of our brothers and sisters here.

Sat Sree Akal.

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WHEN DOES LOVE EXIST




IF YOU LOVE SOMEONE


BECAUSE YOU THINK


HE OR SHE IS GORGEOUS


THEN IT IS NOT LOVE


IT IS INFATUATION



IF YOU LOVE SOMEONE


BECAUSE YOU THINK


YOU SHOULDN´T LEAVE HIM


BECAUSE OTHERS THINK YOU SHOULDN´T


THEN IT IS NOT LOVE


IT IS COMPROMISE



IF YOU LOVE SOMEONE


BECAUSE YOU CAN NOT LEAVE HIM


THINKING THAT WOULD HURT HIS FEELINGS


THEN IT IS NOT LOVE


IT IS CHARITY



IF YOU LOVE SOMEONE


BECAUSE YOU SHARE


EVERYTHING WITH HIM


THEN IT IS NOT LOVE


IT IS FRIENDSHIP



BUT IF YOU FEEL THE PAIN OF THE OTHER PERSON


MORE THAN HIM


EVEN WHEN HE IS STABLE


AND CRY FOR HIM


THEN THAT IS LOVE ...


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WHEN DOES LOVE EXIST

IF YOU LOVE SOMEONE

BECAUSE YOU THINK

HE OR SHE IS GORGEOUS

THEN IT IS NOT LOVE

IT IS INFATUATION

IF YOU LOVE SOMEONE

BECAUSE YOU THINK

YOU SHOULDN´T LEAVE HIM

BECAUSE OTHERS THINK YOU SHOULDN´T

THEN IT IS NOT LOVE

IT IS COMPROMISE

IF YOU LOVE SOMEONE

BECAUSE YOU CAN NOT LEAVE HIM

THINKING THAT WOUL HURT HIS FEELINGS

THEN IT IS NOT LOVE

IT IS CHARITY

IF YOU LOVE SOMEONE

BECAUSE YOU SHARE

EVERYTHING WITH HIM

THEN IT IS NOT LOVE

IT IS FRIENDSHIP

BUT IF YOU FEEL THE PAIN OF THE OTHER PERSON

MORE THAN HIM

EVEN WHEN HE IS STABLE

AND CRY FOR HIM

THEN THAT IS LOVE ...

"ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ ਮਹਲਾ ੯ ॥ देवगंधारी महला ९ ॥ Ḏevganḏẖārī mėhlā 9. Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree, Ninth Mehl:

ਜਗਤ ਮੈ ਝੂਠੀ ਦੇਖੀ ਪ੍ਰੀਤਿ ॥ जगत मै झूठी देखी प्रीति ॥ Jagaṯ mai jẖūṯẖī ḏekẖī parīṯ. In this world, I have seen love to be false.

ਅਪਨੇ ਹੀ ਸੁਖ ਸਿਉ ਸਭ ਲਾਗੇ ਕਿਆ ਦਾਰਾ ਕਿਆ ਮੀਤ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ अपने ही सुख सिउ सभ लागे किआ दारा किआ मीत ॥१॥ रहाउ ॥ Apne hī sukẖ si▫o sabẖ lāge ki▫ā ḏārā ki▫ā mīṯ. ||1|| rahā▫o. Whether they are spouses or friends, all are concerned only with their own happiness. ||1||Pause||

ਮੇਰਉ ਮੇਰਉ ਸਭੈ ਕਹਤ ਹੈ ਹਿਤ ਸਿਉ ਬਾਧਿਓ ਚੀਤ ॥ मेरउ मेरउ सभै कहत है हित सिउ बाधिओ चीत ॥ Mera▫o mera▫o sabẖai kahaṯ hai hiṯ si▫o bāḏẖi▫o cẖīṯ. All say, "Mine, mine", and attach their consciousness to you with love.

ਅੰਤਿ ਕਾਲਿ ਸੰਗੀ ਨਹ ਕੋਊ ਇਹ ਅਚਰਜ ਹੈ ਰੀਤਿ ॥੧॥ अंति कालि संगी नह कोऊ इह अचरज है रीति ॥१॥ Anṯ kāl sangī nah ko▫ū ih acẖraj hai rīṯ. ||1|| But at the very last moment, none shall go along with you. How strange are the ways of the world! ||1||

ਮਨ ਮੂਰਖ ਅਜਹੂ ਨਹ ਸਮਝਤ ਸਿਖ ਦੈ ਹਾਰਿਓ ਨੀਤ ॥ मन मूरख अजहू नह समझत सिख दै हारिओ नीत ॥ Man mūrakẖ ajhū nah samjẖaṯ sikẖ ḏai hāri▫o nīṯ. The foolish mind has not yet reformed itself, although I have grown weary of continually instructing it.

ਨਾਨਕ ਭਉਜਲੁ ਪਾਰਿ ਪਰੈ ਜਉ ਗਾਵੈ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਕੇ ਗੀਤ ॥੨॥੩॥੬॥੩੮॥੪੭॥ नानक भउजलु पारि परै जउ गावै प्रभ के गीत ॥२॥३॥६॥३८॥४७॥ Nānak bẖa▫ojal pār parai ja▫o gāvai parabẖ ke gīṯ. ||2||3||6||38||47|| O Nanak, one crosses over the terrifying world-ocean, singing the Songs of God. ||2||3||6||38||47||" (Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Ang 536)

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simran345, on 31 Mar 2016 - 7:30 pm, said

"More vibrant " - more determined to not give up with problems.

"More alive" - one starts to realise life is worth putting effort into to get the best from it thus making one more alert.

"More loving" - one becomes more caring towards close ones, and devoted to humanity.

"More compassionate" - understanding is obtained and those that a problem for one are tolerated better.

"More active" - lolz I'm afraid that's not happened with me, but my typing has become more active Lol.

To develop personality it would take other activities and experiences too, and that I have to learn still and long way to go, as I'm a slow learner.

Waheguru.

Simran Pen Jee,

do not worry for being slow.

As the saying goes: slow and staedy wins the race.

Speed here is a relative adjective, cause no two people are at same levels.

The thing is, to be straightforward, sincere, honest, truthful, and to top it all, to be humble. Otherwise, the gyan, the virtues we want to get, shall never ever enter in us, they will just slip away at the entrance of our minds, cause there is no room for them, as it is fully occupied by ahankar, jealousy, envy, fakeness, and so on....

But you, do not have to worry, you have not any of these anti-virtues, rather a big heart with sympathy.

God bless you, and the rest of all of our brothers and sisters here.

Sat Sree Akal.

Thank you Harsharan Paji, but I'm afraid I do have some of the anti-virtues you mentioned, probably a some of all. I believe that every soul is not without these emotions, as from birth, that they exist in humans, as they are natural reactions. But it's about controlling them, so as they do not hurt one's own soul and of another.

We can work towards reducing them, and only with the grace of God, will they eliminate and bring us closer to their path of enlightment.

The blessed ones are graced with this, not me, as I am but a sinner.

ਤਉ ਗੁਣ ਪਛਾਣਹਿ ਤਾ ਪ੍ਰਭੁ ਜਾਣਹਿ ਗੁਣਹ ਵਸਿ ਅਵਗਣ ਨਸੈ ॥

तउ गुण पछाणहि ता प्रभु जाणहि गुणह वसि अवगण नसै ॥

Ŧa▫o guṇ pacẖẖāṇėh ṯā parabẖ jāṇėh guṇah vas avgaṇ nasai.

If thou knowest His virtues, then shalt thou know the Lord and like this, merits shall abide in thee and demerits shall flee away.

SGGS ji. Ang 436

?? Dhan Guru Nanak Dev ji

I am nothing, it is my Lord, who has all the gun (virtues).

ਮੇਰੇ ਸਾਹਿਬਾ ਕਉਣੁ ਜਾਣੈ ਗੁਣ ਤੇਰੇ ॥

मेरे साहिबा कउणु जाणै गुण तेरे ॥

Mere sāhibā ka▫uṇ jāṇai guṇ ṯere.

O My Master, who can know Thine merits.

ਕਹੇ ਨ ਜਾਨੀ ਅਉਗਣ ਮੇਰੇ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

कहे न जानी अउगण मेरे ॥१॥ रहाउ ॥

Kahe na jānī a▫ugaṇ mere. ||1|| rahā▫o.

My demerits cannot be recounted. Pause.

SGGS ji. Ang 156

?? Dhan Guru Nanak Dev ji

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"ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ ਮਹਲਾ ੯ ॥ देवगंधारी महला ९ ॥ Ḏevganḏẖārī mėhlā 9. Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree, Ninth Mehl:

ਜਗਤ ਮੈ ਝੂਠੀ ਦੇਖੀ ਪ੍ਰੀਤਿ ॥ जगत मै झूठी देखी प्रीति ॥ Jagaṯ mai jẖūṯẖī ḏekẖī parīṯ. In this world, I have seen love to be false.

ਅਪਨੇ ਹੀ ਸੁਖ ਸਿਉ ਸਭ ਲਾਗੇ ਕਿਆ ਦਾਰਾ ਕਿਆ ਮੀਤ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ अपने ही सुख सिउ सभ लागे किआ दारा किआ मीत ॥१॥ रहाउ ॥ Apne hī sukẖ si▫o sabẖ lāge ki▫ā ḏārā ki▫ā mīṯ. ||1|| rahā▫o. Whether they are spouses or friends, all are concerned only with their own happiness. ||1||Pause||

ਮੇਰਉ ਮੇਰਉ ਸਭੈ ਕਹਤ ਹੈ ਹਿਤ ਸਿਉ ਬਾਧਿਓ ਚੀਤ ॥ मेरउ मेरउ सभै कहत है हित सिउ बाधिओ चीत ॥ Mera▫o mera▫o sabẖai kahaṯ hai hiṯ si▫o bāḏẖi▫o cẖīṯ. All say, "Mine, mine", and attach their consciousness to you with love.

ਅੰਤਿ ਕਾਲਿ ਸੰਗੀ ਨਹ ਕੋਊ ਇਹ ਅਚਰਜ ਹੈ ਰੀਤਿ ॥੧॥ अंति कालि संगी नह कोऊ इह अचरज है रीति ॥१॥ Anṯ kāl sangī nah ko▫ū ih acẖraj hai rīṯ. ||1|| But at the very last moment, none shall go along with you. How strange are the ways of the world! ||1||

ਮਨ ਮੂਰਖ ਅਜਹੂ ਨਹ ਸਮਝਤ ਸਿਖ ਦੈ ਹਾਰਿਓ ਨੀਤ ॥ मन मूरख अजहू नह समझत सिख दै हारिओ नीत ॥ Man mūrakẖ ajhū nah samjẖaṯ sikẖ ḏai hāri▫o nīṯ. The foolish mind has not yet reformed itself, although I have grown weary of continually instructing it.

ਨਾਨਕ ਭਉਜਲੁ ਪਾਰਿ ਪਰੈ ਜਉ ਗਾਵੈ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਕੇ ਗੀਤ ॥੨॥੩॥੬॥੩੮॥੪੭॥ नानक भउजलु पारि परै जउ गावै प्रभ के गीत ॥२॥३॥६॥३८॥४७॥ Nānak bẖa▫ojal pār parai ja▫o gāvai parabẖ ke gīṯ. ||2||3||6||38||47|| O Nanak, one crosses over the terrifying world-ocean, singing the Songs of God. ||2||3||6||38||47||" (Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Ang 536)

Thank you Jacfsing2 Paji.

Guruji tells us here how false the world can be, but we forget, and they tell us that we should praise Waheguru, the one that will help us.

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Sant Tukaram's Secret

There is a story related to Tukaram. The story brings into focus the attitude we should
display to family and friends in our daily interactions with them.

A disciple inquired ofTukaram about how his transformation came, how he never got angry, how he was always loving, and so forth; he wanted to know Tukaram's "secret:'

"I don't know what I can tell you about my secret;' said Tukaram, "but I know your secret:'

And what secret is that?" the disciple asked curiously.

"You are going to die in a week;' said Tukaram gravely.

Since Tukaram was a great sage, the disciple took his words seriously.

During the next week, he cleaned up his act. He treated his family and friends lovingly.

He meditated and prayed. He did everything he could in preparation for his death.

On the seventh day, he lay down on his bed, feeling weak, and sent for Tukaram.

"Bless me, sage, I'm dying;' he said.

"My blessing is always with you;' said the sage, "but tell me how you've been spending the last week?

Have you been angry with your family and friends?"

"Of course not. I had only seven days to love them. So that's what I did. I loved them intensely:' said the disciple.

"Now you know my secret;' exclaimed the sage.

"I know, that I can die at any time. So I am always loving in all my relationships:'

Sat Sree Akal.

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When you come to a point, where you have no need to impress anybody ....

Your freedom will begin.

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Apple wise




Apple..... a very good fruit.



But I do not like apple.



Toh kya, apple bura ho gaya?



No, apple is a very good fruit, it is I just do not like it.



In a same way, if someone does not like you, it does not mean you are bad.



No, you are a very beautiful soul, it is just everyone has a different choice.



Be, who you are, and keep updating yourself



Keep upgrading yourself



Respect yourself.


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Progress

Progress has little to do with speed.

But much to do with direction.

So it is better to concentrate on direction than on speed.

*In our case, while chanting His Name, let it be done lovingly and slowly, rather than make it a ritual and speed it to finish it sooner.

Sat Sre Akal.

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      'How sweet be this life oh Farid! With health the body blooms, but they who love their dear beloved Lord are rarely found.' 
      -Mohalla 5, Saloks 82-83, ASGGS, Ang. 1382.

      The writings of Farid were incorporated into the Sikh canon to refute the notion that life, in general, is painful. For the Gurus life is what one makes out of it. Ignorance, naturally, leads to pain whilst knowledge leads to joy. By positing their views below Farids', the Sikh Gurus refuted the Sufi notion of life being suffering in toto.'   "The Sufi path of asceticism is best summed up in the following conversation between Sayid Muhammad Gesu Daraz and a suppliant. Daraz was the acolyte of Shaikh Farid Nasir-u'd-Din-Chiarg-i-Delhi, the disciple of Nizam-u'd-din Auliya who was the successor to Baba Farid. This conversation is recorded in the 'Jawama-u'l-Kilam' and focuses on the physical suffering weathered by Baba Farid in his search for the Divine. Pledging his mind to the Lord's path, the latter Farid hung upside down in a well for forty days and nights. 

      'Then one day when Sayid Muhammad Gesu Daraz was recounting the pledge of (Baba Farid), a man queried: "how is it that blood does not run out of the eyes and mouth of the person who undertakes it and how is it that foodstuff and other bodily elements do not come out of him?" The Saint explained that in a body as emaciated as that of Farid, the question of food and blood no longer lingers as austerities have reduced such a body to mere skeleton.' 

      Bhagat Farid writes:

      'Farid, if one were to hack my body, not a drop of blood would ooze from it. Those who are imbued with the Lord's love have no blood left in their beings.' 
      -Salok 51, ASGGS, Ang. 1380.

      Guru Amardass Ji comments on this Shabad in the following way:

      'The body is all blood, without blood it cannot exist. Those who are imbued with the Lord's love have not a single drop of selfish blood in their bodies. When the fear of Divine enters one's being, it becomes emaciated, and the blood of greed departs. As flames purify metal, so too does the fear of the Divine cast out impure inclinations. They alone are beautiful, Nanak, who are dyed with the love of the Lord.'
      -Mohalla 3, ASGGS, Salok 52, Ang. 1380. 

      Farid's ascetic undertones are sidelined, by the Guru, to provide a more rational interpretation of his words. Farid's "blood" becomes "selfish blood" and the external is transformed into the internal. It is not the physical frame which matters but the internal, the spiritual. Only through spiritual austerities can inimical inclinations depart; physical austerities only invite weakness and prolonged suffering."   "Now, we will look at the Bani of Bhagat Farid along with the relevant commentary by the Sikh Gurus. 

      'Farid, she who did not enjoy her spouse when black-haired, will she enjoy him when grey-haired? Love the Lord with such love that your hair's color will never change!'
      -Salok 12, ASGGS, Ang. 1378.

      Bhagat Farid holds that youth is conducive to following the spiritual path, in old age it is a lost cause. Guru Amardass Ji, who became the third Nanak at the age of 72, provides a commentary on this shabad:

      'Farid, whether one's hair be black or grey, the Lord is ever present if one remembers him. True love does not come from one's own desire, that cup of the Master's love he himself gives to whomever he desires.'
      -Mohalla 3, Salok 13, ASGGS, Ang. 1378.

      Bhagat Farid believes effort to be necessary vis-a-vis the spiritual path; the Sikh Gurus concur but to an extent. All transpires due to the Divine Will and man's efforts have a limit. Divine Will is more pontificate than man's efforts; man should elect to reside in this will and recognize where effort ends. From a Nanakian perspective effort is necessary in the temporal paradigm, but in the spiritual paradigm success depends on the Divine initiative. Guru Nanak Dev Ji states:

      'Does it matter if one is a swan or heron on whom the Lord casts his glance? Sayeth Nanak that if he so desires, crowns turn into swans.'
      -Mohalla 1, Salok 124, ASGGS, Ang. 1384. 

      The Lord is supreme in all that he does.

      Bhagat Farid then utilizes martial scenery:

      'One who is not welcome by her in-laws, and who has not place at her parents' house; and whose spouse does not care an iota for her, is she truly a happily married wife?'
      -Salok 31, ASGGS, Ang. 1379. 

      The 'parents' house' symbolizes societal life, the 'in-laws' spiritual life and the 'spouse' the Lord. Bhagat Farid is commenting on those spiritualists, those devotees, who desire the best of both spiritualism and societal living. He feels that by pursuing both concepts, one ultimately fails in all that he/she commits to. Guru Nanak Dev Ji comments:

      'At her in-laws and at her parents' house, she belongs to her spouse, the Divine beloved who is inaccessible and unfathomable. Oh Nanak! That one is indeed a happily married bride, who pleases the indifferent one.'
      -Mohalla 1, Salok 32, ASGGS, Ang. 1379.

      In contrast to Farid, the Guru elaborates that via Divine Grace both the temporal and spiritual paradigms become successful for the devotees. The true spiritualist is one who pursues both fields rather than renouncing one over the other. Nonetheless, hypocrisy in both fields should be avoided."   "In Suhi Lalit, Bhagat Farid forewarns:

      'You could not construct a raft when required. Now that the ocean is full and overflowing, it is hard to traverse. Do not touch the saffron flower for it's color will depart, my beloved. Rahau.
      The bride is weak and her husband's command is too hard to bear. As the milk does not return to her breast, nor will the soul return to the body. Sayeth Farid, friends, when the spouse calls this soul departeth crestfallen and the body is reduced to ashes.'
      -Suhi Lalit 1, ASGGS, Ang. 794.

      Guru Nanak Dev Ji, prior to Farid's verse, expounds:

      'Make meditation and restraint the raft via which to traverse the flowing stream. Your pass will be comfortable as if there is no ocean or overflowing stream. Your name alone is the unfading matter with which this cloak is dyed; my Beloved Lord, this color is perennial. My dear companions have departed, how will they meet the Lord? If they are united in virtue, the Lord will unite them with himself. Once united the mortal does not separate if the union be true. The cycle of birth and death is nullified by the True, Eternal Lord. She who removes her own self-centrism sews herself a garment to please her spouse. By the Guru's words, she obtained the fruit of the nectar of the Lord's word. Sayeth Nanak, my companions, my spouse be dear to me. We be the Lord's handmaidens; he our husband.'
      -Mohalla 1, Suhi 4, Ang. 729.

      Bhagat Farid provides a picture of doom and gloom by lamenting lost opportunities. He focuses on old age, where mental and physical faculties are too frail to be attuned to Divine contemplation. Guru Nanak Dev Ji, instead, expounds that it is never too late to focus on the Lord (one should remember Guru Amardass Ji here) for the Beloved is not harsh nor his commands. Via the saffron flower, Bhagat Farid warns of the fleeting pleasures of the world -here today, gone tomorrow- Guru Nanak Dev Ji instead elaborates that all pleasures belong to the Lord and via merging with him, all pleasures become permanent for he is the highest pleasure of all. 

      For Farid, death is the final test; even the faithful, in his view, should fear it for the soul never returns to the body. Guru Nanak Dev Ji however believes death to be a joy and a privilege of the valorous, for it is via death that one perfects his/her union with the Divine.

      From a Nanakian perspective, Farids's words apply to the manmukh and not the Gurmukh. But even a manmukh is worthy of Divine Grace, provided he recants at the ultimate moment."   "Bhagat Farid, a Sufi, informs us:

      'My physical frame is oven-hot; my bones are the firewood. If my feet fail, I shall walk upon my head to meet my Beloved.'
      -Salok 119, ASGGS, Ang. 1384.

      Bhagat Farid utilizes the metaphor of a kiln to depict his love for the Lord. A Sufi, his ascetic concepts however were not in line with Gurmat. Guru Nanak Dev Ji refutes his call for such asceticism by commenting:

      'Do not heat your physical frame oven-hot; burn not your bones like firewood. What harm have they committed that you torture them such? Rather behold the Beloved within your soul, Farid.'
      -Salok 120, ASGGS, Ang. 1384.

      Bhagat Farid is of the mind that the human body is but a prison and the soul it's captive. The Sikh Gurus believe that the human body is a temple, a locus where the Lord resides and awaits his devotee. By utilizing this Shabad of Farid, the Gurus desired that their Sikhs imbue the same zeal as the Sufi did whilst also discarding his asceticism; hence the refutation. Throughout Bhagat Bani we find a similar concept at play. The Sikh Gurus initiate a written dialogue with the radicals of their time and provide an unalloyed picture of the Divine Truth. For Farid, creation is a falsity; for the Gurus it is a truth. Farid's asceticism renders the body as simply an object; the Gurus however perceive it to be divine and encourage their Sikhs to employ it in the service of the Divine by societal living." I printed all this out in pamphlet form and took it to a local Nagar Kirtan when I was in Australia and man, some of the Muslims burned. A few confrontations occurred, "how can you say Guru Nanak was a non-Muslim?!" "Gobind Singh made you anti-Muslim." "Your history is a lie, all Gurus were Muslims and they even married Muslims!" Basically they were clutching at straws. The pamphlets were enough to make the Sikhs ignore these idiots and they grew worried and left the scene. Later a famous attendant Gyani, from Taksal (and who I will not name), got hold of one of the pamphlets. After having it explained to him he called me over and asked me what jatha I belonged to. I told him none. Then he asked me where I got this information from. I told him my sources. Basically his problem was that I was not crediting any jatha on my pamphlet. He asked me to mention Taksal in them but I refused. Few days later all the pamphlets were thrown in the trash and I was told to abstain from publishing such (and here's how they described them) lies. The youth wanted more, but the Gurughar committee would have none of it. The main problem, here, is the liberal fuddu attitude our qaum has that respect all faiths at the expense of your own.  After this some of us decided to stick to the social media. There was veer Bijla Singh Ji with his Search Sikhism page which, back in the heyday of grooming, forced several Muslim preachers to quit their anti-Sikh proselytizing. There were a few more who set up Tisarpanth. Then there was The Truth of Sikhi and Shamshir Publications. Bijla Singh Ji advised us but out of the three initiatives set up, only one is going strong and the others were forced to close down. Why? Because they had to hit the streets and they faced the same problem which I did- our own elders were and still are shooting us down. If we had claimed affiliation with some jatha, then we would have been lionized.   
    • In that way you're right. It is a big deal. My heart would pain to see anyone lost to Islam especially on a large scale. And your cautionary message is well founded.  But in the fake news, shame Sikhi, propaganda way I feel it was being used. Pfft. In that context I feel more a response of "And? Big deal. Who gives a ****"
    • That's her father in law Tarsem Singh of Hushiarpur, he is the village Granthi.   Her father's name is Monohar Lal of Delhi and her name is Kiran Bala. Sikhs don't have names like Lal and Bala. These are typical Hindu names.
    • I'm surprised to learn there are differences in Bani. If Ram rai can be excommunicated for changing the meaning of a verse (to please the emporer), then it should be impossible for a Sikh to change the words or spellings of Bani. Apart from layout differences (which would occur due to variations in handwriting style and page size), the Bani should be identical in all versions. To allow variations can lead to questioning the authenticity and hence validity of Bani.    Yes it can lead to attacks from without by muslims and others looking to destroy Sikhs faith in Bani, but it can also lead to disruption from within. 
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