Veganism

[bdemon]

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why arnt more sikhs vegan? I know a lot are vegetarians but the dairy indistry is just as bad if not worse than the meat industy? the process of milk production is messed up, even organic milk is a business and a scam, why do we contribute to a industry that rapes murders and slaughters innocent beings?

love to hear everyones views on this

Wjkk Wjkf

[Guest Jacfsing2]

wjkk wjkf

why arnt more sikhs vegan? I know a lot are vegetarians but the dairy indistry is just as bad if not worse than the meat industy? the process of milk production is messed up, even organic milk is a business and a scam, why do we contribute to a industry that rapes murders and slaughters innocent beings?

love to hear everyones views on this

Wjkk Wjkf

Karah Prasad requires dairy. Veganism requires no product made by an animal; and according to vegans butter, (which is required in Karah Prasad), is NEVER VEGAN. http://vegetarian.about.com/od/vegetarianfaqs/fl/Is-butter-vegan.htm

[bdemon]

Karah Prasad requires dairy. Veganism requires no product made by an animal; and according to vegans butter, (which is required in Karah Prasad), is NEVER VEGAN. http://vegetarian.about.com/od/vegetarianfaqs/fl/Is-butter-vegan.htm

could alternatives like vegan.butter or soy milk not been used given the current exploitative practises this industry uses? it would be acceptable if gurdwaras have their own cows or buffulos i guess like jugraj singh suggests

[Guest Jacfsing2]

could alternatives like vegan.butter or soy milk not been used given the current exploitative practises this industry uses? it would be acceptable if gurdwaras have their own cows or buffulos i guess like jugraj singh suggests

The requirement for Karah Prasad is butter, (vegan butter isn't real butter), for something to be vegan nothing that comes from an animal can be used, so the Jugraj Singh idea doesn't fit the veganism ideal. We could still have our own cows and buffalos, but we have other problems as a Panth at the moment. (If you want the least abuse I'd recommend organic butter).

[thugger]

It's too hard tbh

[Guest Jacfsing2]

I'm vegan Amritdhari, and when I tell my family (who is Punjabi) the truths about the western dairy industry they tell me that they don't care because apparently Sri Guru Sahib ji never banned dairy+they think dairy is the reason why they are 'strong' lol... Most of the older (western) generation Indians will simply not understand, if we tell them that they are supporting a rapist/slaughter industry by buying their goods, even then they don't really care. & by being vegan, one may argue that it is impossible to be totally vegan, but if we are vegan with what we control to the maximum, that is all that really matters since dharm is no competition.

What replacement do you put in Karah Prasad for butter?

[bdemon]

the fact of the matter is, times have changed and the milk industry has become a business, which means that cows are exploited to provide milk and chocolate, and i wasnt really question karah parshad, im talking about when they hand out quality save chocolates or cha in gurdwaras, thats what im against because its so unnecessary but the implications of doing so are so bad, how can we justify a cow being raped every year and then it gives birth and the baby calf is ripped away and killed right after birth because the humans want the milk from the cow and the calf isnt efficient.

Also its not like milk and chocolate are good for us anyway

[ms514]

VAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA, VAHEGURU JI KI FATEH

There is no room for changing ingredients of Karah Parshad. It is a recipe as relayed by Guru Sahib.

I mean why not just start using Sweet N Low for preparation of Amrit?

[bdemon]

VAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA, VAHEGURU JI KI FATEH

There is no room for changing ingredients of Karah Parshad. It is a recipe as relayed by Guru Sahib.

I mean why not just start using Sweet N Low for preparation of Amrit?

The recipe was already changed when we started using milk from cows of exploitation rather than ethicaly sourced milk ie. our own cows

[ms514]

VAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA, VAHEGURU JI KI FATEH

Could you provide the Rehatnama that outlined non exploited cow milk and the milk must be ethically sourced aka. our own cows?