Pakistan Sikh Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee Meets Let Terrorist Hafiz Saeed

[SeekerKaur]

Hindus have their priorities all mixed. They return their awards for Indian Muslims who cheer for Pakistan during a cricket match. They give crores in Hajj Subsidies to Indian Muslims to go on a pilgrimage yet loyalty of Indian muslims largely remains a question mark. But Sikhs who have always stood with Hindus during tough times get a genocide in return. No Indian Hindus returned their awards at the lack of justice which Sikhs have been demanding for the past 30 years. Sikhs show their loyalty to their friends with their blood.

These guys are mostly closer to Muslims. Most Hindus are like that Raja of Amer who gave his daughter to Akbar in marriage (and many more vassals like him). They claim to honour Shivaji or Maharana Pratap but in reality have some sort of soft corner for Muslims, given how their media and intellectuals go all out to defend Muslims.

Their Bollywood is ruled by Muslims. And all these Khans have Hindu wives/GFs. Many of their writers, politicians, diplomats are married to Muslims.

That hardcore Hindutva hardliner Subramaniam Swamy's own daughter Suhasini is married to a Muslim. Even BJP leaders like Shahnawaz Hussain and Mukhtar Naqvi are married to Hindu women.

Congress and likes of Samajwadi Party seem to cross all limits for sake of Muslims. And Indian media (both mainstream and alternative type) is only about Muslims. Any talk of human rights, pluralism, secularism is about them.

Samajwadi Party even sacked a Hindu minister for making remarks on Muslims helping to make Ram Mandir. That is how close these guys are to Muslims!

Here's a list of prominent Hindu-Muslim marriages and relations in contemporary India http://muslimmirror.com/eng/other-side-of-love-jihad-list-of-renowned-hindus-who-had-a-muslim-wife/

Looks like they feel greater connection to Muslims.

There are so many top notch scientists in India, yet they blabber most about APJ Abdul Kalam only. Their preferences in smallest things speak a lot about their pro Muslim leanings. Like for eg, Madhubala is still considered the most beautiful actress despite her lopsided features. There have been many more talented actors but Indians consider Dilip Kumar aka Yusuf Khan as the greatest actor ever. That man even accepted Nishan E Imitiaz from Pakistan soon after Kargil war. (Shows how loyal he is!) Still Hindus also put him on a pedestal and this time BJP's Rajnath Singh personally went to his home to give him highest state honour!

Rest of policies, textbooks, media, judiciary decisions show how far they go for Muslims. No other community's concerns are treated the way Muslims' are!

They don't even include Sikh history in textbooks or their TV shows, documentaries. But keep harping on damned Mughals, Afghans and other Islamic rulers.

I don't think most of them care about Sikhs or Sikhs' service to humanity or sacrifices. Maybe they take us for granted. (Ghar ki murgi dal barabar?)

They would never dare to touch a mosque the way they brought tanks for our Akal Takht.

I just think it's closer ties with Muslims and a certain Stockholm syndrome towards them (their rulers for several hundreds of years in past).

If you observed the debate around Aurangzeb road or the recent Al Jazeera interview with Ram Madhvani, you'd see how some Hindus even object to calling Mughals as invaders! (What were they if not invaders? Were they their chachas?)

Very few Hindus or their so called liberals, seculars or human rights types ever bother about Sikhs, let alone care for Sikhs.

Hindus seem confused. Some of them target Muslims. Some of them target Sikhs, Jains, Buddhists. Some keep fighting with each other over caste or region. The rest of them keep bashing Hindus while remaining mum on Muslims.

Most of these Hindus seem to be just hungry for power and votes and probably ignore Sikhs due to less population and focus on appeasing Muslims and cashing on their vote bank. Sacrifices or past doesn't seem to matter to them once lust for votes surfaces.

Ironic how they eliminated population of Sikhs even more. Muslims haven't ever been targetted in such large scale massacres though killed in sporadic riots.

Let them pay the price. Muslim youth are increasingly attracted to join ISIS. Indian police has hard time controlling them. They will know what they've been feeding. And when they face trouble they'll think of Sikhs.

Even now I see how their police sends Muslims for counselling if they want to join terror groups but treats Sikhs worse even on suspicion.

Impact of trade and security ties with Myslim countries?

Sikhs being few in number and stateless makes people think they can treat our people like trash.

They hate Sikhs demanding Khalistan but what do they do to Sikhs in India? That's what they need to seriously examine.

Sikhs served a lot in wars post 1947.

Wish Sikhs withdraw support. Sikhs should keep to themselves.When these Muslims will run amok, then they'll know. Sikhs serving to their best despite lies, broken promises of 1947 also makes Hindus think they can take us for granted.

BJP never got votes from Muslims. But Congress still managed to win despite whatever they did to Sikhs. This failure to make ourselves count as influential vote bank also led to no one taking us seriously. I think only victory of rookie party AAP in 2014 LS polls made people sit up and think Sikhs and Punjab could be game changer too. That surprised Kejriwal too and made him give compensation to 1984 Sikh genocide victims.

We have to make ourselves count. I don't think Hindus will ever think for us or truly respect sacrifices.

[mrggg123]

You do not believe their own newspapers? Or the newspapers of minorities in Pakistan?

Sikhs have been killed in KPK. They are not exactly fine there.

Sikhs have separate glasses and utensils be it at schools or colleges.

Pakistani Muslims are bound to tell different stories so to tap into rivalry and anger against India. And if you are talking about Kashmir then ones from there are even more likely to paint different picture since anti India sentiment is highest there for obvious reasons.

Look at these reports:

Killings of Sikhs in Pakistan forcing them to flee homes http://thediplomat.com/2014/09/the-killing-of-the-sikhs/

Pakistan Sikhs live under constant threat http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0HS0U220141003

Pakistan Sikhs in dark ages of persecution http://www.ipsnews.net/2014/11/pakistani-sikhs-back-in-the-dark-ages-of-religious-persecution/

The Sikhs of Nankana Sahib: Life under shadow of towering hate http://www.dawn.com/news/1025160/day-3-the-sikhs-of-nankana-sahab

Don't go by just what a Paki or Kashmiri tells you.

I know people who have gone there for yatra and even they confirm how hatred and hostility are evident against Sikhs in Pakistan and recollect ill treatment and being treated like outcastes even at dhabas.

Read firsthand accounts from Pakistani newapapers yourself to know how "well" Sikhs are treated there. They have no political representation. They have been requesting for atleast one holiday on Gurpurab and recognition of one religious festival (Gurpurab) but even that has not been granted there.

I am not proud of India or something but Sikhs have it far better in India, compared to Islamic countries like Pakistan!

It is outlandish to assume Pakistan is better or even any good for Sikhs.

what about pilgrimes who go there? Ive heard all good stories from them. I hear what your saying about news but like people say you cant believe evrything u hear in the news nowadays.

[TyrionLanister]

These guys are mostly closer to Muslims. Most Hindus are like that Raja of Amer who gave his daughter to Akbar in marriage (and many more vassals like him). They claim to honour Shivaji or Maharana Pratap but in reality have some sort of soft corner for Muslims, given how their media and intellectuals go all out to defend Muslims.

Their Bollywood is ruled by Muslims. And all these Khans have Hindu wives/GFs. Many of their writers, politicians, diplomats are married to Muslims.

That hardcore Hindutva hardliner Subramaniam Swamy's own daughter Suhasini is married to a Muslim. Even BJP leaders like Shahnawaz Hussain and Mukhtar Naqvi are married to Hindu women.

Congress and likes of Samajwadi Party seem to cross all limits for sake of Muslims. And Indian media (both mainstream and alternative type) is only about Muslims. Any talk of human rights, pluralism, secularism is about them.

Samajwadi Party even sacked a Hindu minister for making remarks on Muslims helping to make Ram Mandir. That is how close these guys are to Muslims!

Here's a list of prominent Hindu-Muslim marriages and relations in contemporary India http://muslimmirror.com/eng/other-side-of-love-jihad-list-of-renowned-hindus-who-had-a-muslim-wife/

Looks like they feel greater connection to Muslims.

There are so many top notch scientists in India, yet they blabber most about APJ Abdul Kalam only. Their preferences in smallest things speak a lot about their pro Muslim leanings. Like for eg, Madhubala is still considered the most beautiful actress despite her lopsided features. There have been many more talented actors but Indians consider Dilip Kumar aka Yusuf Khan as the greatest actor ever. That man even accepted Nishan E Imitiaz from Pakistan soon after Kargil war. (Shows how loyal he is!) Still Hindus also put him on a pedestal and this time BJP's Rajnath Singh personally went to his home to give him highest state honour!

Rest of policies, textbooks, media, judiciary decisions show how far they go for Muslims. No other community's concerns are treated the way Muslims' are!

They don't even include Sikh history in textbooks or their TV shows, documentaries. But keep harping on damned Mughals, Afghans and other Islamic rulers.

I don't think most of them care about Sikhs or Sikhs' service to humanity or sacrifices. Maybe they take us for granted. (Ghar ki murgi dal barabar?)

They would never dare to touch a mosque the way they brought tanks for our Akal Takht.

I just think it's closer ties with Muslims and a certain Stockholm syndrome towards them (their rulers for several hundreds of years in past).

If you observed the debate around Aurangzeb road or the recent Al Jazeera interview with Ram Madhvani, you'd see how some Hindus even object to calling Mughals as invaders! (What were they if not invaders? Were they their chachas?)

Very few Hindus or their so called liberals, seculars or human rights types ever bother about Sikhs, let alone care for Sikhs.

Hindus seem confused. Some of them target Muslims. Some of them target Sikhs, Jains, Buddhists. Some keep fighting with each other over caste or region. The rest of them keep bashing Hindus while remaining mum on Muslims.

Most of these Hindus seem to be just hungry for power and votes and probably ignore Sikhs due to less population and focus on appeasing Muslims and cashing on their vote bank. Sacrifices or past doesn't seem to matter to them once lust for votes surfaces.

Ironic how they eliminated population of Sikhs even more. Muslims haven't ever been targetted in such large scale massacres though killed in sporadic riots.

Let them pay the price. Muslim youth are increasingly attracted to join ISIS. Indian police has hard time controlling them. They will know what they've been feeding. And when they face trouble they'll think of Sikhs.

Even now I see how their police sends Muslims for counselling if they want to join terror groups but treats Sikhs worse even on suspicion.

Impact of trade and security ties with Myslim countries?

Sikhs being few in number and stateless makes people think they can treat our people like trash.

They hate Sikhs demanding Khalistan but what do they do to Sikhs in India? That's what they need to seriously examine.

Sikhs served a lot in wars post 1947.

Wish Sikhs withdraw support. Sikhs should keep to themselves.When these Muslims will run amok, then they'll know. Sikhs serving to their best despite lies, broken promises of 1947 also makes Hindus think they can take us for granted.

BJP never got votes from Muslims. But Congress still managed to win despite whatever they did to Sikhs. This failure to make ourselves count as influential vote bank also led to no one taking us seriously. I think only victory of rookie party AAP in 2014 LS polls made people sit up and think Sikhs and Punjab could be game changer too. That surprised Kejriwal too and made him give compensation to 1984 Sikh genocide victims.

We have to make ourselves count. I don't think Hindus will ever think for us or truly respect sacrifices.

The dhimmis hindus have been made liberal and muslim worshipper by the pro musilms books written by pro muslim writers. No RW hindus & rationalist who real real history will treat mughals as Insiders.

BJP was never in power for 6 decades...So we have 60 yrs of Dhimmmis hindus who have been brainwashed to follow the propaganda spread by congress and communist.

These pseudo hindu sounding intellectuals have created 1000 institutions where Hinduism are disowned and islam is praised.

Look at those faces of Dhimmis hindus who were abusing Ram madhav once he told the truth.

But at the same time, Muslims have grown their numbers strategically and have got more united, combative and anti state...Ask any police to enter muslim area and they will come out with broken limbs.

State of India is pathetically scared of islam..They behave like ostrich while muslims are turning country into islamistan with 4-5 kids / family.

India is nation on suicide..--Keep containing Islamist and they will keep spreading islam, following shariah law & hindus will remain divided,confused bcoz of liberalism, distorted/propaganda education, political differences.

Lately state of India is held ransom to vote bank politics of muslims. Not a single % of muslim vote BJP but modi govt still doesnt treat ISIS and cult worshiper islamist with iron hands. Modi govt is always on backfoot bcoz of united alliance of opposition,media,Bollywood, leftist, communist, pseudo intellectuals who continue to

spread massive propaganda against the govt.

Muslims have formed alliance with all opposition parties, media,Bollywood, leftist, communist, pseudo intellectuals & even some soft people inside BJP such as Rajnath singh.

There is no way, Modi or any govt can contain rise of Islam in India---

2% Sikh contribute more to India GDP that 15% muslim.--If India were a rational state---After losing large chunk of land in name of islam--- it would have got rid of these muslims in 1947.

Now muslims are back to the same population as they existed around 1910.