Jump to content

Sikh - Muslim Debate On Bbc Asian Network Nihal


Hammertime007
 Share

Recommended Posts

Wheaguru ji ka khalsa Wheguru ji ke fateh. It's clear we have some people in our own community, who won't say they are not muslim as they feel they would be directing hate towards muslims! So what do they want? People to hate us for no reason? This has triggered the debate http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/san-bernardino-shooting/white-house-holds-meeting-muslims-sikhs-n479896

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I don't want to run around saying 'I'm not Muslim! Please, I'm not Muslim!' because I'm scared of what some goray might think.

This isn't because I particularly care about Muslims but mainly because I don't want any white pr**ks dictating my life to the extent that they have me acting like a scared b1tch like that. Plus I don't see whitey like you do (you must be peasant), these mfa will stab us in our back as soon as it suits their purpose.

I have thought about being in the middle of some white ranting on public transport (it happened to my nephew once but he handled it nicely), and at that point I'd tell them I don't want to hear their ish because I'm Sikh.

The problem is with those people who are just hating for irrational reasons - I don't want to be running around after them. Screw them, let them hate us. The big question is why are you so petrified? Are you scared of having to fight goray?

not at all scared. Why should we be be dragged in to issues which are nothing to do with us, if muslims have issues with other communites and the other way around we should keep out of it. If it means telling people we are not muslim then so be it cos we are not muslim. The only time some muslims see as brothers is when their own community is under scrutiny. you have a misconception. I believe the panth comes first not anti muslim groups, our very own librials do most of the damage on this subject. Put the panth first, what ever other communites want to do with their issues with one another is up to them. There's nothing wrong with telling people who we are and who are not.
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I'm all for Sikhs saying flat out 'I am not a Muslim'. I've seen too many times when some prominent Sikhs have come out with quotes on their social media and even t shirts where they say 'We are not terrorists'. This does nothing at all in my opinion. In fact it makes them look even more Muslim in a way. Because even Muslims are saying that. We need a Sikh/Sikhs to have the balls just to plainly say 'I/We are not Muslims'.

I can see how some people may get offended by that but so be it. I don't see it as purposefully trying to offend Muslims or even by accident. I just see it as logical. If by saying flat out we are not Muslims, we are massively reducing the chances of attacks on innocent Sikhs in the future. Saying we are not terrorists does nothing.

By saying we are not Muslims does not mean we are saying it is ok to attack Muslims even though it may be interpreted that way.

What we can follow up with is 'I am not a Muslim, having said that, all Muslims are not terrorists'. Something like that.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

See from my experiences over a few decades now, what happens is that we (Sikhs) end up fighting everyone at some point. Here is the thing: we end up fighting with others on the same side (temporarily) and today's friends is tomorrows enemies and vice versa. If we get this and not crawl up anyone's ar5e, we'll be better off.

We got here, had to fight white pr1cks, then tuvay got jumped up around then (not least because they were taking their cues from goray). During these kicks offs we actually fought with paks on the same side. Fast forward a few years, and here we are fighting with the very same paks over grooming conversions, and the same honkys who hated us now (for their own agenda) bend over backwards to try and sweeten us up.

Then hammer, look at those black kick offs in your town a few years ago! Did you not see our lot temporarily liaising with paks to combat that?

Do you get where I am going with this?

Ultimately, we don't know who we are going to end up kicking off with.

The real problem is the proliferation of pu55y ar5sed cowardice amongst Singhs and Singhnis. If our lot banged heads more often when they got messed with, people would soon learn to leave Sikhs the eff alone.

Maybe the first and most important fight we have to have is with those soft as sh1te pu55ys in our own community? And Hammer, this doesn't necessarily mean 'liberals'' as you put it. Half these people giving it large on the Internet about Khalistan/India and sullay and whatnot are some closeted, scared giddarhs living in the lap of luxury in some leafy suburb.

It's different when you're a bloke - things are infinitely more likely to get physical. A put down is often just the start of things.

don't worry i've mixed it with boys too they weren't too worried about beating a girl cos she was a paki with a turban....to quote the line they used...we've got to stop expecting others to be decent just because we are

Link to comment
Share on other sites

how about saying I'm a human so is everyone else , get a life

Get a life? I've got one thanks. If Sikhs like you carry on being so PC, you won't have a life for too much longer.

I have nothing against Muslims, hence me putting in the statement after, all Muslims aren't terrorists. I don't have to do that but I would if I was put in the position because I care about innocent Muslims being targeted as well.

Chill with the personal attacks!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Get a life? I've got one thanks. If Sikhs like you carry on being so PC, you won't have a life for too much longer.

I have nothing against Muslims, hence me putting in the statement after, all Muslims aren't terrorists. I don't have to do that but I would if I was put in the position because I care about innocent Muslims being targeted as well.

Chill with the personal attacks!

I got to say: what you are saying seems REALLY reactionary and cowardly. This is no personal attack btw.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
 Share


  • advertisement_alt
  • advertisement_alt
  • advertisement_alt


  • Topics

  • Posts

    • yeh it's true, we shouldn't be lazy and need to learn jhatka shikaar. It doesn't help some of grew up in surrounding areas like Slough and Southall where everyone thought it was super bad for amrit dharis to eat meat, and they were following Sant babas and jathas, and instead the Singhs should have been normalising jhatka just like the recent world war soldiers did. We are trying to rectifiy this and khalsa should learn jhatka.  But I am just writing about bhog for those that are still learning rehit. As I explained, there are all these negative influences in the panth that talk against rehit, but this shouldn't deter us from taking khanda pahul, no matter what level of rehit we are!
    • How is it going to help? The link is of a Sikh hunter. Fine, but what good does that do the lazy Sikh who ate khulla maas in a restaurant? By the way, for the OP, yes, it's against rehit to eat khulla maas.
    • Yeah, Sikhs should do bhog of food they eat. But the point of bhog is to only do bhog of food which is fit to be presented to Maharaj. It's not maryada to do bhog of khulla maas and pretend it's OK to eat. It's not. Come on, bro, you should know better than to bring this Sakhi into it. Is this Sikh in the restaurant accompanied by Guru Gobind Singh ji? Is he fighting a dharam yudh? Or is he merely filling his belly with the nearest restaurant?  Please don't make a mockery of our puratan Singhs' sacrifices by comparing them to lazy Sikhs who eat khulla maas.
    • Seriously?? The Dhadi is trying to be cute. For those who didn't get it, he said: "Some say Maharaj killed bakras (goats). Some say he cut the heads of the Panj Piyaras. The truth is that they weren't goats. It was she-goats (ਬਕਰੀਆਂ). He jhatka'd she-goats. Not he-goats." Wow. This is possibly the stupidest thing I've ever heard in relation to Sikhi.
    • Instead of a 9 inch or larger kirpan, take a smaller kirpan and put it (without gatra) inside your smaller turban and tie the turban tightly. This keeps a kirpan on your person without interfering with the massage or alarming the masseuse. I'm not talking about a trinket but rather an actual small kirpan that fits in a sheath (you'll have to search to find one). As for ahem, "problems", you could get a male masseuse. I don't know where you are, but in most places there are professional masseuses who actually know what they are doing and can really relieve your muscle pains.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Terms of Use