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Donald Trumph Jindabad (Long Live)

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I'll answer that question later in response to Ranjeet's question elsewhere. But what I'm imagining is the very antithesis of this. It's good that you are conscious of these things btw.

Thing is if you have a sikh attitude you will be the best neighbour/friend/coworker /boss to have because you would be respond at a highly inclusive level seeing the human not the skin, culture, faith /lack of faith and be a responsible caring human ...

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Thing is if you have a sikh attitude you will be the best neighbour/friend/coworker /boss to have because you would be respond at a highly inclusive level seeing the human not the skin, culture, faith /lack of faith and be a responsible caring human ...

Nah, way too many people ignore subtle racism in the workplace in England, even when it is rampant . Racism also plays a big part in determining promotions and stuff in many jobs here. Plus, we can also easily find ourselves in neighborhoods with closet nazis, pedos or fundamentalists under our nose (remember the BNP member list that was leaked a few years ago? I was shocked at how many people on it came from areas you'd least expect)

I'm all for the maximum level of self sufficiency we can achieve. These ideas aren't for every Sikh, just some brothers and sisters who share a certain outlook and perspective outside of the norm. Think of it as a pipe dream. Only certain types would want to move into this Lohgarh, others (like those you alluded to earlier), wouldn't be welcome.

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Nah, way too many people ignore subtle racism in the workplace in England, even when it is rampant . Racism also plays a big part in determining promotions and stuff in many jobs here. Plus, we can also easily find ourselves in neighborhoods with closet nazis, pedos or fundamentalists under our nose (remember the BNP member list that was leaked a few years ago? I was shocked at how many people on it came from areas you'd least expect)

I'm all for the maximum level of self sufficiency we can achieve. These ideas aren't for every Sikh, just some brothers and sisters who share a certain outlook and perspective outside of the norm. Think of it as a pipe dream. Only certain types would want to move into this Lohgarh, others (like those you alluded to earlier), wouldn't be welcome.

huh ...since when have I said literally build a fort , it was a metaphor for strong sikhi in EACH household with cooperation between households of like minds...guess that just went WHOOSH over the top ...our strength is in behaving like a brain the collective contain the shared memories but each section can replicate that memory if another gets damaged

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huh ...since when have I said literally build a fort , it was a metaphor for strong sikhi in EACH household with cooperation between households of like minds...guess that just went WHOOSH over the top ...our strength is in behaving like a brain the collective contain the shared memories but each section can replicate that memory if another gets damaged

I'm baffled by how you think I was talking about literally building a fort?? I think the thing went WHOOOSH over your head. I was using the concept of Lohgarh to suggest a strong metaphoric fort.

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I'm baffled by how you think I was talking about literally building a fort?? I think the thing went WHOOOSH over your head. I was using the concept of Lohgarh to suggest a strong metaphoric fort.

LOL ..bcos you said no one would want to enter it ....oh well

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You think I'm that dumb that I envisaged putting up a genuine 'fort' in the UK. lol! Like some sort of defended castle! lol REALLY?

What I meant is that it wouldn't be everyone's cup of tea (which is fair enough), it'd more agreeable to some over others.

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Donald Trump is either genius or <banned word filter activated> ( probably bit of both since he got tons of support). I wouldn't be surprise if Trump thinks Sikhs are Muslims.

American politics is just big circus these days with both of clowns trying to be president.

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We have waited a long time for someone to say what he did, so full marks to him, if this his attitude I hope he becomes the next president of the USA. Two clowns Cameron and Boris Johnson both condemed the remarks. Let's send blue eyed blonde haired females, related to those two to brick lane, or Whitechapel or some other London dump, then let's see what they say bout Donald Trumph's remarks

In the same sense let's send you down to the south, redneck valley and see how much Trump speaks up for you after they slaughter you like a pig! Are you willing to risk your life for Trump's platform, which you claim is "taking care of business"?

Trump's supporters are racist entitled white people, who blame all their problems on the minority class. These entitled white folks refuse to do manual labor jobs, unless it's a government job because their brother Joe is the manager and will let him sit on his hands for 8 hours, while the Mexican subcontracted employee does the job at minimum wage. The Mexican who is providing for his family is the problem, not the white entitled person who is on social assistance because he is upset for having a black president.

On the media Prime Ministers and Presidents are politically correct, but behind closed doors the real them comes out. If Trump is barking off like a wild dog on stage, I don't want to know what he is saying behind closed doors about the minorities. The same applies to others, but they are more down to earth compared to Trump. Trump doesn't care about Sikhs or anyone else. Trump is only trying to get into office to scratch one more item off his bucket list before he dies.

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The people of the USA have given their verdict In a democratic process. The protesters are opportunists criminals.

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23 hours ago, Hammertime007 said:

The protesters are opportunists criminals.

The people have a right to protest from the 1st Amendment. It doesn't matter whether you agree with it or not, (though they could give-up the violence at these protests).

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On 14/11/2016 at 6:10 PM, Jacfsing2 said:

The people have a right to protest from the 1st Amendment. It doesn't matter whether you agree with it or not, (though they could give-up the violence at these protests).

these protests are zero to do with DJT but loads to do with George Soros and the DNC trying to defame DJT by paying for professional rilers (1500 usd per week) to sweep up idiots and SJWs into hate crimes. I mean the violence is like the London riots just taking advantage of situation to assault white people , destroy property. They managed to delay an ambulance which meant the four year girl lost her life.

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3 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

these protests are zero to do with DJT but loads to do with George Soros and the DNC trying to defame DJT by paying for professional rilers (1500 usd per week) to sweep up idiots and SJWs into hate crimes. I mean the violence is like the London riots just taking advantage of situation to assault white people , destroy property. They managed to delay an ambulance which meant the four year girl lost her life.

Would these protests still be happening if the great Ron Paul won the 2016 election? (Not that little Paul, Rand, disgrace to his father's legacy), If George Soros had anyone to fear it was Ron Paul not Donald Trump, (yet the idiots picked Mitt Romney and John McCain, over him), Daas personally believes that a Ron Paul presidency would be second only to Khalsa Raj.

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32 minutes ago, Jacfsing2 said:

Would these protests still be happening if the great Ron Paul won the 2016 election? (Not that little Paul, Rand, disgrace to his father's legacy), If George Soros had anyone to fear it was Ron Paul not Donald Trump, (yet the idiots picked Mitt Romney and John McCain, over him), Daas personally believes that a Ron Paul presidency would be second only to Khalsa Raj.

problem is the rot is so deep , ron paul would need to clone Trey Gowdy to have enough honest bodies to back him ...shutting the fed could get him killed much like JFK. and yes i believe the left bought media would be s- stirring majorly.

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11 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

problem is the rot is so deep , ron paul would need to clone Trey Gowdy to have enough honest bodies to back him ...shutting the fed could get him killed much like JFK. and yes i believe the left bought media would be s- stirring majorly.

The genuine liberals probably have more in common with Ron Paul than Obama or Clinton, starting with just the Patriot Act as well as not supporting the war in Iraq and Iran, (basically on the civil issues he's more liberal than probably big democrats are). Also he doesn't seem like a sell-out.

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4 hours ago, Jacfsing2 said:

The genuine liberals probably have more in common with Ron Paul than Obama or Clinton, starting with just the Patriot Act as well as not supporting the war in Iraq and Iran, (basically on the civil issues he's more liberal than probably big democrats are). Also he doesn't seem like a sell-out.

have to remember the roots of the democrats the slave-owners of the south , they've just swapped the slave plantations for slave ghettos with blacks being trapped in low education, low prospect , menial housing and thanking massa for it by voting them in again and again

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http://www.thehindu.com/news/international/sikh-mistaken-for-muslim-harassed-at-us-store/article9367458.ece

Sikh harassed, woman attacked after bandanna mistaken for hijab in U.S.

Latest in 437 reports of racist slurs, hateful intimidation or harassment since Trump won the presidential poll.

A 22-year-old Sikh, studying at the prestigious Harvard Law School, was allegedly abused and harassed at a store near the campus by a man who mistook him for a Muslim.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Harmann Singh, a first year law student at the university, said he was shopping in a store in Cambridge, Massachusetts, while speaking on the phone with his mother, when a man walked in and said to the clerk behind the counter, “Oh look, there’s a [expletive] Muslim.”

“Over the weekend, I was confronted by a man who called me a ‘[expletive] Muslim’ and followed me around a store aggressively asking where I was from, and and no one in the store said a thing. I was on the phone with my mom the entire time, and we were both concerned for my safety as this man stood inches away from me,” Mr. Singh wrote about his experience in The Boston Globe.

His family too faced it

“While deeply painful, what happened to me pales in comparison to the hate and violence many of my brothers and sisters have faced across the country,” he wrote.

According to Mr. Singh, the man started following him around the store, harassing him and asking him where he was from.

Mr. Singh, who is from Buffalo, New York, said he tried to ignore the man and continue his conversation with his mother, who was worried. She could hear the man questioning Mr. Singh and told her son to leave the shop. Mr. Singh said the man followed him to the checkout counter.

“I told him, ‘Hey I’m actually from New York. I live here now down the street. Is there anything I can do to help you?’” Mr. Singh said.

He made a hasty exit

The man did not respond and Mr. Singh left the store as quickly as possible.

He said the most effective way to help people who feel marginalised is to “be there for each other in these moments.”

A bystander, who checks in with the person, being harassed in any situation can make all the difference, he said.

The owner of the store told Boston.com that he was going back and forth between the back and front of the shop at the time of the incident that took place on November 11 and saw the man who spoke to Mr. Singh come in.

He said he had planned to ask the man to leave, but went to the back of the store when the incident occurred. Both Mr. Singh and the other man were gone when he returned. He said he was shocked and sorry when his clerk told him what happened.

“I don’t know where that guy came from and I hope I don’t see him again,” said the owner, who did not want to be named.

Indian-American woman attacked

In a separate incident, a 41-year-old Indian-American woman has been racially attacked in San Francisco in the U.S. state of California after a bandanna on her head was mistaken as a hijab, the latest in a series of assaults following Donald Trump’s win.

Nicki Pancholy was on her ‘peace walk’ when on return she found her car window shattered, her purse gone and a note calling her a “Hijab-wearing b****,” and asking her to “get the f— out.”

She has lupus

Ms. Pancholy is not Muslim, nor does she wear a hijab. She is a Rajasthani and has been battling lupus, which caused hair loss, and put the bandanna on her head as protection from the sun, NBC news reported.

“When I saw it, I was in shock. That someone would feel so much hate to do this. I realise that this is the climate after this election. But I didn’t realise someone would be so ignorant and in so much pain to cause so much harm,” she said.

“I was wearing a bandanna over my head, not because I am religious, but because I am protecting my scalp from the sun because I have lupus, an inflammatory autoimmune disease that can damage tissues and organs, she added.

She had been hiking in Mission Peak (just north of San Jose) every morning for 65 days straight before this happened, it said.

“I didn’t know who was watching me. I would like for the violence to end with me,” she added.

Respect everyone, period

“Many of our neighbours, friends, and family fear the current climate in our country, and we must do our best to make sure everyone is respected,” Raj Salwan, Freemont City Councillor-elect said.

Police are investigating the note as a hate crime and auto burglary as her windows were smashed and someone stole her purse and checkbook, it said.

Ms. Pancholy is just one of a growing number of people across the country, even in the Democratic stronghold of the Bay Area, to fall victim to hateful harassment since Mr. Trump became President-elect.

Last week, a Muslim student’s hijab was allegedly ripped off and her hair pulled down by a classmate at a school in Minnesota.

The Southern Poverty Law Center has noted a marked increase in hateful acts across the country since Mr. Trump has been elected. As of Monday, the hate-tracking group has found 437 reports of hateful intimidation or harassment since November 9.

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On 12/8/2016 at 8:25 AM, Premi5 said:

Wonder if Sikhs will be affected much by Trump Presidency?

To be honest it would be better than how Sikhs were treated under Obama or Bush, not because of Trump being president, but rather what he would do, and that is fight Sharia on a legit Battleground, instead of just fighting a whole bunch of middle eastern nations such as Iraq and not setting puppet governments. All the hate crimes against Sikhs have happened in liberal territory such as California and New York, both are liberal states where Trump couldn't have won, (despite him being born in New York and lived there his whole life). It's the Clinton crew that's been causing chaos in riots recently, mostly because at this point in time liberals have been brainwashed to believe in Atheism and other b.s.

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