How Badal Took Over Akal Takht?

[Guest Jacfsing2]

Can anyone tell me how the Badal government took over the Akal Takht and sent massands to take it over especially since the last Jathedar Bhai Ranjit Singh was the one who was there before Badal? Also how'd the Massands stay in power so long without anyone stopping them until recently with the Sarbat Khalsa? (I know it's changed since Jagtar Singh Hawara became the official Jathedar.)

[Balkaar]

Badal didn't attain his position through scheming veerji, he was raised into it atop the shoulders of our own people - we voted him in. He's nothing more than a mirror being held up to the face of our qaum, in which we can behold our own ruined reflection.

The trouble with our lot is that nothing ever gets done until a Sant Jarnail Singh, or a Bhai Rajoana, or a Bapu Surat Singh decides to take some action on our behalf, at which point we become hysterical and rally around them only to forget all about them sooner or later - When was the last time you heard anything of Bapu Surat Singh, or Bhai Rajoana? Sant Ji spoke about this propensity towards servility within the psyche of the modern Sikh - he lamented, at length, how Singhs would appear before him whenever some beadbi was perpetrated asking to be told what to do rather than taking it upon themselves to act. That is why these masands were in power so long veerji.

We need to be careful to ensure that the accomplishments of the Sarbat Khalsa are not undone, that they don't slide away into obscurity.

[simran345]

People thought that voting for Badal would bring good things to Punjab, and they would benefit from it. But now they will realise it was the wrong choice.

[dallysingh101]

People thought that voting for Badal would bring good things to Punjab, and they would benefit from it. But now they will realise it was the wrong choice.

I think it's more a case of a particular segment of Sikh society voting (and continually voting) him in along economic and tribal lines (the free booze up is just an extra bonus to them in my opinion). These people don't care about anything wider than that.

We'll see what happens now. Complaints about Badal and his family aren't a new phenomena btw - yet despite decades of complaining, enough landowners are loyal to him to keep him in power.

Balkaar is right. This is simply a reflection of our own current corrupted, materialistic, casteist society. No outsider bogeymen are involved. This is 100% self-inflicted.

[jkvlondon]

It's like my hubby warns me ...just because a guy wears a dastar don't gullibly believe he is like you i.e. a gursikh who puts their belief into action ... I agree with him I've seen too many hypocrites amritdhari guys going out with gorian and kalian before marrying nice girls which their folks line up for them . Now you have people going out for years and then marrying...bhekhi bibian who put on a good show of piety but are dabbling in bad juju to get ahead or exploiting their daughters-in-law even getting their to marry and divorce in quick succession to gain property and money.

Everyone needs to get themselves straight before expecting anyone else to be right ...and then tread carefully , expect to be let down ...

[simran345]

I think it's more a case of a particular segment of Sikh society voting (and continually voting) him in along economic and tribal lines (the free booze up is just an extra bonus to them in my opinion). These people don't care about anything wider than that.

We'll see what happens now. Complaints about Badal and his family aren't a new phenomena btw - yet despite decades of complaining, enough landowners are loyal to him to keep him in power.

Balkaar is right. This is simply a reflection of our own current corrupted, materialistic, casteist society. No outsider bogeymen are involved. This is 100% self-inflicted.

Yep the free booze, people fall for. That's one of the reasons they get addicted to alcohol. So to buy votes, what do they use? Alcohol, and why, because they know people are addicted to it, and will vote for them. They are not exactly going to give packages they can use for the home, because then people will actually start thinking without being drunk about which party they should vote for.

Yep 100% brought on by themselves because they are so used to it, they don't want change, even if for their benefit.

[dallysingh101]

It's like my hubby warns me ...just because a guy wears a dastar don't gullibly believe he is like you i.e. a gursikh who puts their belief into action ... I agree with him I've seen too many hypocrites amritdhari guys going out with gorian and kalian before marrying nice girls which their folks line up for them . Now you have people going out for years and then marrying...bhekhi bibian who put on a good show of piety but are dabbling in bad juju to get ahead or exploiting their daughters-in-law even getting their to marry and divorce in quick succession to gain property and money.

Everyone needs to get themselves straight before expecting anyone else to be right ...and then tread carefully , expect to be let down ...

Don't you ever sense that the people putting on the biggest shows of piety are usually ones who are covering up some seriously dark instincts/natures? I think often they have sociopathic tendencies.

I've met so many guys from 'respectable' families who are drug/alcohol addicts and/or shagging anything that moves. Yet they still act like butter wouldn't melt in their mouths in front of 'sangat' who lap it all up.

[jkvlondon]

Don't you ever sense that the people putting on the biggest shows of piety are usually ones who are covering up some seriously dark instincts/natures? I think often they have sociopathic tendencies.

I've met so many guys from 'respectable' families who are drug/alcohol addicts and/or shagging anything that moves. Yet they still act like butter wouldn't melt in their mouths in front of 'sangat' who lap it all up.

yep that's why I believe what Guru ji tells us to do is the only way , look at the karam not just bachan....anyone can promise the sun moon and stars when they want your support

[simran345]

Don't you ever sense that the people putting on the biggest shows of piety are usually ones who are covering up some seriously dark instincts/natures? I think often they have sociopathic tendencies.

I've met so many guys from 'respectable' families who are drug/alcohol addicts and/or shagging anything that moves. Yet they still act like butter wouldn't melt in their mouths in front of 'sangat' who lap it all up.

Yes, its normally the wealthy ones or those in power that use this acting characteristic method.

[khalsaman1]

Badal didn't attain his position through scheming veerji,

oh come on...the rest of your post is fine but this part is completely false.

<banned word filter activated> Badal conspired with many forces to murder innocent Sikhs and begged Indira to attack Darbar Sahib to martyr Sant Ji