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Thank you Simran Pen Jee for posting all these lovely keertans.

Each one is better than the other. It is like when a child enters a sweetmart, and knows not what to do, as the child likes all the sweets in that store.

Thank you jee.:clap:

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Thank you Simran Pen Jee for posting all these lovely keeratns.

Each one is better than the other. It is like when a child enters a sweetmart, and knows not what to do, as the child likes all the sweets in that store.

Thank you jee.:clap:

It's just I was going through yesterday, mixed emotions, but the main emphasis is nobody is there for anybody but God, and those that God sends for others in bad times is what matters. As only God's name is the support, and those that have the qualities that they have blessed souls with. Sorry I put quite a lot on last night. 

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It's just I was going through yesterday, mixed emotions, but the main emphasis is nobody is there for anybody but God, and those that God sends for others in bad times is what matters. As only God's name is the support, and those that have the qualities that they have blessed souls with. 

Truth defined in such simple words.O:)

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HIS GLANCE OF MEHER

 

ਨਾਨਕ ਨਦਰਿ ਕਰੇ ਸੋ ਬੂਝੈ ਸੋ ਜਨੁ ਨਾਮੁ ਧਿਆਏ

Naanak Nadhar Karae So Boojhai So Jan Naam Dhhiaaeae

नानक नदरि करे सो बूझै सो जनु नामु धिआए

O Nanak, that mortal who is blessed with the Lord's Glance of Grace, understands Him; that humble servant meditates on the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

Raag Suhi Dhan Dhan Satguru Ram Das Maharaj.

 

To those egoistic fools, who think they know and understand everything, and all others are wrong, and those who get surprisingly upset when ever they hear any mahima of Naam, Guru Jee tells us in the above verse; what can those silly poor chaps do, because only those who are blessed with His glance of Meher, know and understand the real value and importance of Naam, thus their humble worship of Wahiguru, is through the meditation on His Naam.

Sat Sree Akal.

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ਬੂਡਹੁਗੇ ਪਰਵਾਰ ਸਕਲ ਸਿਉ ਰਾਮੁ ਨ ਜਪਹੁ ਅਭਾਗੇ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ

Booddahugae Paravaar Sakal Sio Raam N Japahu Abhaagae

बूडहुगे परवार सकल सिउ रामु न जपहु अभागे

You shall be drowned, along with your family, if you do not meditate on the Lord, you unfortunate person.


Raag Maaroo, Bhagat Sree Kabir Jeeo

 

Bhagat Sree Kabir Jee,  tells us in his verse above, that if we not devote ourselves by meditating on Him, then, we are the most unfortunate persons, thus we shall be drowned in the wheel of 84, means in the unending cycle of births and deaths.

For Kabir Sahib, being fortunate, is not having a beautiful spouse, children, wealth, properties, etc...but, that jeev atma, who has intense love for Wahiguru, and manifests that love, by meditating on Him, through His Naam.

He clearly says, salvation is not obtained by any rituals, or any such supposed religious practices, which, we under braham, commonly believe that they take us nearer to Him; but the fact is, we do not move even an inch towards Him, rather get farther from Him, and loose this golden opportunity of human birth, for reuniting our atmas with Him, by doing the only devotion of His Simran, as per Bani.

Sat Sree Akal.

 

 

 

 

 

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ਬੂਡਹੁਗੇ ਪਰਵਾਰ ਸਕਲ ਸਿਉ ਰਾਮੁ ਨ ਜਪਹੁ ਅਭਾਗੇ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ

Booddahugae Paravaar Sakal Sio Raam N Japahu Abhaagae

बूडहुगे परवार सकल सिउ रामु न जपहु अभागे

You shall be drowned, along with your family, if you do not meditate on the Lord, you unfortunate person.


Raag Maaroo, Bhagat Sree Kabir Jeeo

 

Bhagat Sree Kabir Jee,  tells us in his verse above, that if we not devote ourselves by meditating on Him, then, we are the most unfortunate persons, thus we shall be drowned in the wheel of 84, means in the unending cycle of births and deaths.

For Kabir Sahib, being fortunate, is not having a beautiful spouse, children, wealth, properties, etc...but, that jeev atma, who has intense love for Wahiguru, and manifests that love, by meditating on Him, through His Naam.

He clearly says, salvation is not obtained by any rituals, or any such supposed religious practices, which, we under braham, commonly believe that they take us nearer to Him; but the fact is, we do not move even an inch towards Him, rather get farther from Him, and loose this golden opportunity of human birth, for reuniting our atmas with Him, by doing the only devotion of His Simran, as per Bani.

Sat Sree Akal.

 

 

 

 

 

🙏🏻 Dhan Bhagat Kabir ji 

 

 

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Devotion, the means for purification

 

Satgur sayv sarab fal paa-ay.
Serving the True Guru, all fruits and rewards are obtained.

Janam janam kee mail mitaa-ay.
The filth of so many lifetimes is washed away.

Patit paavan parabh tayro Naa-o.
Your Name, God, is the Purifier of sinners.

Raag Bhairao, Dhan Dhan satguru Arjun dev Maharaj

 

Dhan Dhan Satguru Arjun Dev Maharaj tells us in His paviter Bani above, that serving the Guru, all our miseries come to an end.

Now what is that true sewa of the Guru?

True sewa of the Guru, is to follow faithfully and implicitly His teachings. The Guru does not want anything from us, He is already "bharpoor" with the Dhan of Naam.

The only thing He expects and wants from us, is our liberation from the nashavant creation, and to reunite us with Akal Purukh.

And that is only possible, when we do the right bhakti/sewa, because the only barriers between us and Him, are our akhoot bhandaar of karmas, gathered in countless lives, and continue gathering them still...

That is why in His 2nd verse above, He says, by serving the Guru, our countless karmas in countless lives are wiped away.

So, how are our karmas wiped away?

In His 3rd verse above, He says: Patit pavan Prabh tera Naao.

This means, the only purifier of any amount of our karmas and mind, are not any of the outer karam kaand, neither worshipping gods, devis, devtays, neither recitations, jap, tap, poojas, pilgrimages, bathing at so called sacred waters, etc, etc, etc ... but, by only engaging ourselves in the bhakti of the Simran of His Naam, which is the right devotion/bhakti as per Gurmat

*Wah wah Sachay Patshah Arjun Dev Maharaj.

 

Sat Sree Akal.

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Devotion, the means for purification

 

Satgur sayv sarab fal paa-ay.
Serving the True Guru, all fruits and rewards are obtained.

Janam janam kee mail mitaa-ay.
The filth of so many lifetimes is washed away.

Patit paavan parabh tayro Naa-o.
Your Name, God, is the Purifier of sinners.

Raag Bhairao, Dhan Dhan satguru Arjun dev Maharaj

 

Dhan Dhan Satguru Arjun Dev Maharaj tells us in His paviter Bani above, that serving the Guru, all our miseries come to an end.

Now what is that true sewa of the Guru?

True sewa of the Guru, is to follow faithfully and implicitly His teachings. The Guru does not want anything from us, He is already "bharpoor" with the Dhan of Naam.

The only thing He expects and wants from us, is our liberation from the nashavant creation, and to reunite us with Akal Purukh.

And that is only possible, when we do the right bhakti/sewa, because the only barriers between us and Him, are our akhoot bhandaar of karmas, gathered in countless lives, and continue gathering them still...

That is why in His 2nd verse above, He says, by serving the Guru, our countless karmas in countless lives are wiped away.

So, how are our karmas wiped away?

In His 3rd verse above, He says: Patit pavan Prabh tera Naao.

This means, the only purifier of any amount of our karmas and mind, are not any of the outer karam kaand, neither worshipping gods, devis, devtays, neither recitations, jap, tap, poojas, pilgrimages, bathing at so called sacred waters, etc, etc, etc ... but, by only engaging ourselves in the bhakti of the Simran of His Naam, which is the right devotion/bhakti as per Gurmat

*Wah wah Sachay Patshah Arjun Dev Maharaj.

 

Sat Sree Akal.

 

 

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Hi tuhintuhin ji, how u doing. Long time no see. I remember I used to read some of your posts, I liked reading them. 🌸

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TYPES OF DEVOTEES

 

Bhai Navala and Nihala were residents of Patna. They always spoke the truth and acted in truth. They served the disciples engaged in devotion and meditation.

One day they prayed to Shree Guru Har Gobind Jee, to advise them, what to do to achieve liberation.

Guru Jee advised them to practice devotion to the Lord´s Name. They said some people believed that worship leads to duality.  The followeres of the path of knowledge, considered themselves to be Brahm, or the supreme being. So whom should they worship?

Guru Jee told them, that there were 4 types of devotees:

1) The devotees with desires.  They worship the Lord and serve the saints with some specific desires in their minds. Wahiguru fulfills their desires and alo creates love for Himself in their hearts.

2) The distressed devotees.  These were the persons who were suffering  some physical disease or fear of the enemies. They recite the Lord´s Name to relieve themselves from these problems. Their diseases were relieved and their faith was enhanced.

3) The devoted disciples.  They were known as sikhs. They considered Wahiguru as the Lord, Master, and Creator.  They recite His name and are blessed with divine knowledge.

4) The devotees who know the truth.   They know that Wahiguru is everywhere and in every being, as ether present in everything.  When they meditate on the Lord´s Name with this conviction, their knowledge of Truth becomes firm, and they are blessed with divine knowledge.

Thus, Guru Jee advised to recite the Lord´s Name,serve the saints, and remain humble, they would then be liberated.

Dr G. S. Chauhan

 

Sat Sree Akal.

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TYPES OF DEVOTEES

 

Bhai Navala and Nihala were residents of Patna. They always spoke the truth and acted in truth. They served the disciples engaged in devotion and meditation.

One day they prayed to Shree Guru Har Gobind Jee, to advise them, what to do to achieve liberation.

Guru Jee advised them to practice devotion to the Lord´s Name. They said some people believed that worship leads to duality.  The followeres of the path of knowledge, considered themselves to be Brahm, or the supreme being. So whom should they worship?

Guru Jee told them, that there were 4 types of devotees:

1) The devotees with desires.  They worship the Lord and serve the saints with some specific desires in their minds. Wahiguru fulfills their desires and alo creates love for Himself in their hearts.

2) The distressed devotees.  These were the persons who were suffering  some physical disease or fear of the enemies. They recite the Lord´s Name to relieve themselves from these problems. Their diseases were relieved and their faith was enhanced.

3) The devoted disciples.  They were known as sikhs. They considered Wahiguru as the Lord, Master, and Creator.  They recite His name and are blessed with divine knowledge.

4) The devotees who know the truth.   They know that Wahiguru is everywhere and in every being, as ether present in everything.  When they meditate on the Lord´s Name with this conviction, their knowledge of Truth becomes firm, and they are blessed with divine knowledge.

Thus, Guru Jee advised to recite the Lord´s Name,serve the saints, and remain humble, they would then be liberated.

Dr G. S. Chauhan

 

Sat Sree Akal.

Let's apply these four types to a Bhagat of Vaheguru; Bhagat Dhanna Jatt Ji:

1. Bhagat ji didn't have some specific desires in his mind and didn't serve the saints.  He wanted a rock (he thought the rock was Vaheguru) to eat before he did.  So Bhagat ji doesn't fit here.

2. Bhagat ji wasn't suffering no physical disease or fear of the enemies.  So he doesn't fit here.

3. Bhagat ji wasn't known as a Sikh.  Doesn't fit here either.

4. Bhagat ji didn't know the truth.  Had he known the truth, he would not have thought a rock was the One Creator of all. So he doesn't fit in this type either.

Look there was only four listed,  I guess Bhagat Dhanna Jatt ji was not listed as a devotee. Sri Guru Hargobind Sahib ji would have surely listed a type for Bhagat Dhanna Jatt ji.  Such a great saint cannot ever be forgotten by Guru Sahib.  In fact, the Gurus give him a spot in Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji.  Sri Guru Hargobind Sahib ji is the embodiment of Gurbani.  The Perfect Guru never leaves his Bhagat out.

Something may sound great, but in reality (through the lense of Gurbani) it is lacking in producing the great teachings of Satguru.

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Let's apply these four types to a Bhagat of Vaheguru; Bhagat Dhanna Jatt Ji:

Do not say, lets´s apply.. do not involve or pull  others into your limited narrow mindedness, for it is only your wrong judgemental point of view

1. Bhagat ji didn't have some specific desires in his mind and didn't serve the saints.  He wanted a rock (he thought the rock was Vaheguru) to eat before he did.  So Bhagat ji doesn't fit here.

Do you even know who is a Saint? Saints are not the ones in any special colorful attires, but, those who are one with Him, that is why the Bani says: Mil Sant Jana, Har paaya.

2. Bhagat ji wasn't suffering no physical disease or fear of the enemies.  So he doesn't fit here.

Guru Jee, means to say, one has to arise above all pettiness, and to devote oneself to Him out of love, not for personal benefits or desires just as health, wealth...It was good luck of Bhagat Jee, that he had none of this pettiness

3. Bhagat ji wasn't known as a Sikh.  Doesn't fit here either.

You are wrong here.Do you even know what does sikh mean? Sikh literally means student/learner/seeker. And as long as one is not one with thhe primal Truth, one is a seeker of Truth.

4. Bhagat ji didn't know the truth.  Had he known the truth, he would not have thought a rock was the One Creator of all. So he doesn't fit in this type either.

Had He not known the Truth, he would have never ever walked over the path of devotion, so again you see, you are wrong.

Look there was only four listed,  I guess Bhagat Dhanna Jatt ji was not listed as a devotee. 

That is your perspective

Sri Guru Hargobind Sahib ji would have surely listed a type for Bhagat Dhanna Jatt ji.  Such a great saint cannot ever be forgotten by Guru Sahib.  In fact, the Gurus give him a spot in Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji.  Sri Guru Hargobind Sahib ji is the embodiment of Gurbani. 

First of all, why do you want to get into the shoes of Guru Jee?  Why, your so negative assumptions as usual?  Don´t indulge in wilderness, what Guru Jee could do or not wanted, that is not your concern, be humble... you can never imagine what was in Guru Jee´s mind, you do not have that maturity, neither purity  man....

The Perfect Guru never leaves his Bhagat out.

The fact is, He never leaves none of His creatures, be it may Kal Purukh.

Something may sound great, but in reality (through the lense of Gurbani) it is lacking in producing the great teachings of Satguru.

There is no such thing as you are saying above, it is only your wickedness, which as a mental limitation makes you fail to see goodness in others, thus it makes you such an horrible judgemental person.

 

Being judgemental as usual through ego, leads into failing to see goodness in others.

Then why to generalize what Guru Jee told Nihala and Nivala? He answered their specific questions to them. What Guru Jee told them, was for them as  new comers/starters, just to start the path of spirituality.

While  Bhagat Dhanna Jatt Ji, was a consumed devotee, he was a personality of a  very high avastha, that is why you mention him as a great saint, so if you compare them to him, then it only shows how much clear thinking you have...or that is your ego,  which makes you lack in producing and understanding Gurmat.

Everybody goes to gym for weight lifting, but not everybody there lifts the same amount of weight. Why?  Because, not all have started at the same time, some may have joined a week or so, still others a couple of months, still others, some years. Though all are weight lifters, but not all can lift the ame weight.

All those sikhs who say they want to engage in devotion to Wahiguru, are not spiritually equal, or, we could say  at the same level of consciousness, though all are devotees; that is why their thinking varies more or less, so then why so much fuss here?

The thing is, one can not help being true to one´s nature, and yours is to keep poking your fingers, you have that special negative ability, be mindful, you may one day get hurt yourself with that nasty attitude, not neccesarily phisically.

Though I have tried hard to understand, or find some logic in your wickedness, malice... but I am sorry to say, I fail to understand, why or how someone can be so wicked, as you are.

You have a thick curtain of hatred and ego before yourself, which makes you see yourself as superior to others, that is why you are judgemental, and see stars in daylight, which means, you see negativity in others, when it is not so.

Amend your ways, why  be so wicked?

If you can not be positive/helpful(not in your egoistic view), then keep quiet, and do not utter any nonsense, at least not here in this thread, neither in others, rather start your one of your own, and say whatever nonsense, and as much as you want there.

Understood?

 

 

 

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Let's apply these four types to a Bhagat of Vaheguru; Bhagat Dhanna Jatt Ji:

Do not say, lets´s apply.. do not involve or pull  others into your limited narrow mindedness, for it is only your wrong judgemental point of view

1. Bhagat ji didn't have some specific desires in his mind and didn't serve the saints.  He wanted a rock (he thought the rock was Vaheguru) to eat before he did.  So Bhagat ji doesn't fit here.

Do you even know who is a Saint? Saints are not the ones in any special colorful attires, but, those who are one with Him, that is why the Bani says: Mil Sant Jana, Har paaya.

2. Bhagat ji wasn't suffering no physical disease or fear of the enemies.  So he doesn't fit here.

Guru Jee, means to say, one has to arise above all pettiness, and to devote oneself to Him out of love, not for personal benefits or desires just as health, wealth...It was good luck of Bhagat Jee, that he had none of this pettiness

3. Bhagat ji wasn't known as a Sikh.  Doesn't fit here either.

You are wrong here.Do you even know what does sikh mean? Sikh literally means student/learner/seeker. And as long as one is not one with thhe primal Truth, one is a seeker of Truth.

4. Bhagat ji didn't know the truth.  Had he known the truth, he would not have thought a rock was the One Creator of all. So he doesn't fit in this type either.

Had He not known the Truth, he would have never ever walked over the path of devotion, so again you see, you are wrong.

Look there was only four listed,  I guess Bhagat Dhanna Jatt ji was not listed as a devotee. 

That is your perspective

Sri Guru Hargobind Sahib ji would have surely listed a type for Bhagat Dhanna Jatt ji.  Such a great saint cannot ever be forgotten by Guru Sahib.  In fact, the Gurus give him a spot in Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji.  Sri Guru Hargobind Sahib ji is the embodiment of Gurbani. 

First of all, why do you want to get into the shoes of Guru Jee?  Why, your so negative assumptions as usual?  Don´t indulge in wilderness, what Guru Jee could do or not wanted, that is not your concern, be humble... you can never imagine what was in Guru Jee´s mind, you do not have that maturity, neither purity  man....

The Perfect Guru never leaves his Bhagat out.

The fact is, He never leaves none of His creatures, be it may Kal Purukh.

Something may sound great, but in reality (through the lense of Gurbani) it is lacking in producing the great teachings of Satguru.

There is no such thing as you are saying above, it is only your wickedness, which as a mental limitation makes you fail to see goodness in others, thus it makes you such an horrible judgemental person.

Being judgemental as usual through ego, leads into failing to see goodness in others.

Then why to generalize what Guru Jee told Nihala and Nivala? He answered their specific questions to them. What Guru Jee told them, was for them as  new comers/starters, just to start the path of spirituality.

While  Bhagat Dhanna Jatt Ji, was a consumed devotee, he was a personality of a  very high avastha, that is why you mention him as a great saint, so if you compare them to him, then it only shows how much clear thinking you have...or that is your ego,  which makes you lack in producing and understanding Gurmat.

Everybody goes to gym for weight lifting, but not everybody there lifts the same amount of weight. Why?  Because, not all have started at the same time, some may have joined a week or so, still others a couple of months, still others, some years. Though all are weight lifters, but not all can lift the ame weight.

All those sikhs who say they want to engage in devotion to Wahiguru, are not spiritually equal, or, we could say  at the same level of consciousness, though all are devotees; that is why their thinking varies more or less, so then why so much fuss here?

The thing is, one can not help being true to one´s nature, and yours is to keep poking your fingers, you have that special negative ability, be mindful, you may one day get hurt yourself with that nasty attitude, not neccesarily phisically.

Though I have tried hard to understand, or find some logic in your wickedness, malice... but I am sorry to say, I fail to understand, why or how someone can be so wicked, as you are.

You have a thick curtain of hatred and ego before yourself, which makes you see yourself as superior to others, that is why you are judgemental, and see stars in daylight, which means, you see negativity in others, when it is not so.

Amend your ways, why  be so wicked?

If you can not be positive/helpful(not in your egoistic view), then keep quiet, and do not utter any nonsense, at least not here in this thread, neither in others, rather start your one of your own, and say whatever nonsense, and as much as you want there.

Understood?


Don't have the time to respond to the whole post will save it for later.  Tell me one thing though.  How do you go from trying trying to apply the 4 types of devotees to Bhagat ji to saying that Bhagat ji was a consumed devotee, who had a very high avastha and cannot be compared to them( Nihala and Nivala) and Guru Sahib was specifically answering to them( Nihala and Nivala).  You can't keep your cake and eat it as well, but you might better understand with, you can't keep your saag paatheela and eat it as well.  Make up your mind and stop flip flopping like a fish out of water. 

I challenge the norm, Satguru gives me his mat and I challenge the status quo.  I am no sheep, who will stand in awe of something that doesn't make sense according to Gurbani.  If I discover a different type of devotee according to Gurbani, be ready to miserably defend this doctors writing again.  The "Dr." in front of anyone's name means nothing when it comes to Gurbani.  It's good as writing illiterate.  If it required a doctor's education to understand Gurbani, then today we would be calling Sri Guru Nanak Dev ji. Dr. Nanak Dev ji.  When it comes to Gurbani, the illiterate is educated and the educated is illiterate.  This is the play of Akal Purakh.  He raised Bhai Mardana and gave him a spot in Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji.  Go and ask your Sants how educated Bhai Mardana was. 

 

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