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Sikh Population In Punjab Is 57 % Which Was 60% In 2001 Census.

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As per Govt of India Census 2011 released yesterday ,Sikh population in Punjab is 57 % which was 60% in 2001 census.


The growth rate of population in the decade 2001-2011 was 17.7 percent. The growth rate of population of the different religious communities in the same period was as Hindus: 16.8 percent; Muslim: 24.6 percent; Christian: 15.5 percent; Sikh: 8.4 percent; Buddhist: 6.1 percent and Jain: 5.4 percent.


http://www.censusindia.gov.in/2011census/C-01.html

http://www.firstpost.com/india/indi...ims-2011-census-data-on-religion-2407708.html

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When you factor in the massive amount of Indian labourers we Sikhs ourselves have had to bring in to Punjab to work our fields and the massive amount of Sikh emigration to places such as Canada, America and Italy (and to a smaller extent UK) from Punjab in the last decade I think we have to look at the tiny 3% drop in our population and be quite relieved and admit that it isn't half as bad as we feared. Could have been alot worse. So, in actual fact, a very positive result. No need for negativity at all on this thread.

But if same 3% decline per decade trend continues then in few decades Sikhs will in minority in Punjab .Our birth rate is also lowest in country .

""Sikh emigration to places such as Canada, America and Italy (and to a smaller extent UK) from Punjab in the last decade""

you must also add Australia ,Newzeland for last decade .

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But if same 3% decline per decade trend continues then in few decades Sikhs will in minority in Punjab .Our birth rate is also lowest in country .

""Sikh emigration to places such as Canada, America and Italy (and to a smaller extent UK) from Punjab in the last decade""

you must also add Australia ,Newzeland for last decade .

Yes I do add Australia and New Zealand to that list, not to mention places in the middle east such as Dubai etc. In fact, we in the UK have had so few newer Sikh immigrants from Punjab compared to places such as Italy and Canada etc that I don't think we here even realise just how many have been leaving Punjab. Just to give an example, during that 10 year period, Italy alone has had 100,000 Sikh immigrants from Punjab.

When we embark on a blame game its really easy to point the finger at things like drugs and the right wing Hindu agenda but the fact is the root of the problem lies very much closer to home. We ourselves are the cause, and by we I mean me and you, sitting in the west. Firstly, we're part of the negative statistics because we are Sikhs sitting away from Punjab. Secondly, if we used our western money and education to help our kith and kin in Punjab to become more advanced in their farming methods etc they wouldn't need to bring in hundreds of thouands of Indians from U.P and Bihar each year.

Instead, we sit in the west. Do nothing. Wait for statistics to come out. And then pontificate.

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Theres also the brain drain, given that Punjab has had highish education levels, loads of people who can have left the punjab to other parts of India or gone abroad. Lets not forget things like the skewing of males/females in punjab which is a demographic timebomb that is now producing fruit. Historically its the mum's who pass on sikhi, fewer sikh mums = less sikhi.

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There is a few factors that you may have forgot, such as the mass migration of Sikh people to wherever? Whether that's still in India or abroad to somewhere where they can be successful. Second, a census only works with the people asked, there may be many otherwise Sikh villages that they just didn't take the Census for whatever reason. Finally, there is less of the message of Guru Sahib's message within Punjab.

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.Second, a census only works with the people asked, there may be many otherwise Sikh villages that they just didn't take the Census for whatever reason..

My Mom as a govt employee was involved in this census , not even a single house was left out ,they were told to visit again if any house was locked

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My Mom as a govt employee was involved in this census , not even a single house was left out ,they were told to visit again if any house was locked

You also seem to be forgetting that many Indians are homeless, many of them could be Sikhs. I know how Censuses work.

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I think we have to look at the tiny 3% drop in our population and be quite relieved and admit that it isn't half as bad as we feared.

Could have been alot worse. So, in actual fact, a very positive result.

Jagsaw Ji whilst i agree with you that a positive attitude in the face of adversity is what Chardi Kala is all about and that we should not box ourselves into a negative mentality by repeatedly proclaiming ourselves as slaves, I don't see anything positive to take from the Census results. The fall is the equivalent of the American population declining by 10million people in the 10years between 2001 to 2011. In all honesty it is hardly describable as a tiny fall (though it may appear so) and is very very significant fall indeed over a previous ten year period between to 2001 to 2011.

The 3% drop in terms of the overall Punjab population actually equates to a 4% drop in the Sikh percentage (when we divide the 2011 percentage by the 2001 percentage) in Punjab. Across India the Sikh percentage as a proportion of the total population actually declined by over 10% in the ten years between 2001 to 2011. Bear in mind that it was strategically after the 2011 census that corrupt echelons of the state bureaucracy began their aggressive funding drive to proliferate Balmiki and Dera Ballan apartheid mandirs throughout Punjab given that Sikhs were already a minority in Doaba by 2001. Our opponents want to make us a minority in Punjab by as early as 2021.

In contrast the Muslim percentage of the east Punjab population increased by 40% during the same ten year period between 2001 to 2011 (though statistically as a percentage of the total population it may superficially appear at first glance that their percentage has only increased by 0.4%).

Now all of the old projections from 2001 onwards were that Sikhs would become a minority in east Punjab by the time of the 2031 census as a result of female infanticide, biraderi alienation, falling fertility rates, derawaad and drugs.

However, the increasing danger is that Sikhs could be a minority in east Punjab by the time of 2021 census.

As it will take a swing of less than 2 million people that enumerated themselves as Sikhs in 2011 to declare themselves as Dera Ballan or Balmiki worshippers in 2021 to turn Sikhs into a minority in Punjab by the 2021 census. Additionally on top of the state bureaucracy backed push for the proliferation of Balmiki and Dera Ballan apartheid mandirs in Punjab there is a parallel plan that all the Dera followers will be instructed to return themselves in the ORP category in 2021 ("other religions and persuasions") rather than as Sikhs.

So in effect if a million people that enumerated themselves as Sikhs in 2011 declare themselves to be Balmiki or Dera Ballan by 2021 and if a million Radha Swami, Dera Sirsa, Noormehlia, Nirankari, Bhaniarawale and other dera followers also declare themselves in the ORP category by 2021, we Sikhs will find ourselves as a minority in east Punjab 10 years ahead of the Hindutva schedule.

Furthermore bear in mind that the biggest demographic sub-component of the Punjab population is the so-called SC category with 32% of the population. The so-called Jat Sikh population is the second largest demographic sub-component with 25% of the population in east Punjab.

We need to take this as a long overdue wake up call and pull out all the stops to totally eradicate separate Gurughars, obliterate self-identification on a biraderi basis and put an end to a vile and depraved matrimonial apartheid mentality that we inherited from the Hindu's and Muslims who are proud of their pathetic castes.

Furthermore all Sikhs need to exit the reservation system. So-called Jat Sikhs have recently also been declared as a backward caste and part of the agenda behind this move was to divide all Sikhs at birth by caste-differentiated birth certificates indicating their respective backward caste status. Sikhs need to opt out of the same and operate a voluntary meritocracy whilst prioritising education and scholarship of the weakest sections of society for equality.

We Sikhs in the Diaspora need to lead the fightback against making Sikhs a minority in east Punjab by striving to include everyone we can within the Panth, by uniting biraderi-based Sangats in the West and putting an end to depraved and self-defeating matrimonial apartheid segregation. By east Punjab becoming a casteless oasis hundreds of millions of Dalits outside of Punjab can subsequently flock to the Truth of Sikhi as a direct consequence of that.

Instead of making Sikhs an ever smaller and more exclusive minority community as we have sought to do in the last 31years we need to forget about chanting slogans that will never achieve nothing but concentrate on actual concrete actions via time and money concentrated on attacking female infanticide, drugs, poverty, illiteracy, biraderi apartheid, cancer, alcohol, lack of employment opportunities for youth, etc.

In the future, instead of holding fasts to death we need committed Gursikhs like Jathedar Surat Singh Ji to actively participate in the previous paragraph's objectives physically (rather than via hunger strike) as those are the fastest ways to create a united Sikh democratic voice which can credibly ensure justice for political prisoners and the victims of state sponsored Genocide.

All those that wish for an end to rule from Delhi as a result of state-sponsored Genocide should realise that more will be achieved by pushing the percentage of Sikhs in east Punjab to 99% via actual actions rather than holding Diaspora referendums or rallies when the demographics on the ground in Punjab indicate that we are heading towards minority status in east Punjab unless we all do something about it right here right now. We can achieve more by backing a committed GurSikh like HS Phulka Ji as an AAP chief ministerial candidate for 2017 to sweep Badal out of power rather than holding diaspora referendums by the time that Sikhs could be a minority in Punjab.

Forcing the millions of Anand Karaj's in India which have involved erstwhile non-Sikh participants to be conducted at Mandirs in the future will only strengthen our Hindutva opponents position whilst weakening our own. But the eradication of female infanticide, drugs, biraderi apartheid, illiteracy, poverty in Punjab are absolute top priorities that cannot afford to be ignored any longer than they have been done in this century by our opponents diverting our attention on to orchestrated Beadbi or sloganeering which achieves nothing practical for Panth ki Jeet.

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"Across India the Sikh percentage as a proportion of the total population actually declined by over 10% in the ten years between 2001 to 2011"

DTF ji ,kindly explain your numbers ,how its 10% decline ?

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Haanji Hrman Paji ehda ke 2011 di figure (1.7%) nu 2001 naal divide kareyo Ji (1.9%)

2011 percentage of Indian population (1.7%) = 89.47% of 2001 percentage (1.9%) figure.

Thus the percentage decline of Sikhs as a proportion of the Indian population between 2001 to 2011 exceeds 10%.

Jacfsing2 you will find the vast majority of homeless people in Punjab are in fact non-Sikhs.

Given that the figures are four years old the Sikh percentage can possibly be estimated at 56% currently in 2015.

A drop of 1% per year in the next 6 years will leave us as minority by the 2021 census if we don't urgently prioritise dealing with the threats of female infanticide, drugs, biraderi apartheid, illiteracy, poverty, fertility, alcohol, cancer etc.

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There is a few factors that you may have forgot, such as the mass migration of Sikh people to wherever? Whether that's still in India or abroad to somewhere where they can be successful.

Does that mean we don't need a Sikh homeland, because we can be successful wherever we emigrate to? If everyone keeps emigrating the powers that be will soon begin to ask, "Who exactly will populate this Sikh homeland that you people are clamouring to obtain?" But I suspect that was the plan all along. Make life difficult for Sikhs in Panjab so that they're compelled to seek fresh pastures, gradually whittling down our numbers making us a minority so that so we're easier to control.

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@ MisterrSingh Ji

Bhai Sahib, I think the homeland debate is a dangerous distraction to the demographic reality in front of us.

But you're absolutely right that the powers that be fear the Truth of Sikhi and realise that Sikhi is a dangerous revolutionary Truth that will upset the apple cart of their corrupt terrorist regime. We need to work from the ground up.

If we are fully committed to the Panth as ordinary Sikhs and work unitedly there can be one hundred million plus Sikhs in India within our lifetime. That would represent the biggest casteless demographic within India. Such a demographic force would be pretty unstoppable from gaining momentum once it got to that level and could arguably turn all of present day India into an enlarged more modern version of Khalsa Raj as existed between 1801-1849.

As what do our opponents have but the lies of caste discrimination and oppression to support their program of corruption and terrorism, which sustains itself via divide and rule and falsely categorising 79% of Indians as Hindu.

The knockout blow they are waiting to deliver to our Panth is by some in our Panth declaring that sehajdhari Punjabi speakers are not Sikhs as that would consequently leave the Khalsa Panth (as 5% or so of Sikhs) as a 2% odd minority within Punjab without any political relevance.

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Here is a suggestion

Create a world Sikh organization group. Seek donations from Sikhs all over the world. Use the funds to help those in Punjab. The help can be in the form of welfare for poor families, some kind of credit for having a child, hospitals, universities, technical colleges, buy up land and create corporate farming....etc, etc. Make Punjab a great place to live. That way they will stay.

If each and every Sikh around the world donated USD 50 bucks a month, that would be a very huge amount.

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@DTF - On some occasions certain elements of our own are doing all the sabotage that could ever hurt us in the type of situations you've described, whilst the enemy looks on satisfied wondering how it could ever be so easy.

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