How And Why Are Sikhs Killing Sikhi?

[JSinghnz]

[JSinghnz]

Your views Sangat.

Useless topics such as gay marriage etc. attract so much comments.

Let us discuss on how we all can stop killing Sikhi and strenghten the roots of Sikhi.

[Kira]

The Bhenji here is spot on. She's a role model to us all lol.

[harsharan000]

Good topic Bro Jsinghz,

First of all, let us see what is sikhee?

Sikhee is a path of discipleship.

A path where a disciple firmly follows his Guru without any waverings. But then we may think, what if when we die, does that comes to an end?

To understand this path of Sikhee, let us in the correct light who is a disciple or sikh and who is the Guru.

The true disciple is the jeeva, the surtee, the soul, who is a particle, a drop, of that Infinte Ocean, namely Wahiguru.

Because it is the subtle soul, which is of the essence of Wahiguru, and which merges in Wahiguru.

All the three bodies, mind, are just coverings or wrappings on the soul, which is the reality of us.

We have just seen above who or what is a true sikh.

So now let us see, who is the True Guru.

The Bani says: Shabad Guru, surat dhun chela.

Here Guru is telling us, that Wahiguru Akal Purukh, in His Shabad swaroop, is our True Guru. Because, by catching on His that roop, we cross once and forever, from these planes of darkness, pain and sorrow, towards the the only plane of permanent Light, Joy and unlimited bliss, namely Sach Khand.

This is what all Guru Sahibans tell us about in the Bani.

But we stupid manmukhs, have addded a lot of other outer elements, and limited the teachings of our beloved Guru Sahibans within the 4 walls of our manmaat, so naturally, if we become weak by not following strictly Gurmat, we are destroying sikhee as per the purpose of our Guru Sahibans, which was to generate love and devotion in us for His Lotus Feet, thus carry us across the Maha Bhavsagar and reach safely Sach Khand, with the aid of Naam alone.

So brother, by following anything else apart of this path drawn for us by our Guru Sahibans, is nothing but turning our backs to their priceless Gurbani, and yet we proudly say we are sikhs. Thus we are declining

We are only sikhs, if we follow Gurmat implicitly, otherwise we are just cheating ourselves and declining downwards.

Gurbani is high, pure, paviter, and perfect by itself, it is we, who are going astray away and away from it, the fault is with us, never with Gurbani.

One way to overcome, is to read carefully each and every single word from the Bani, (not like parrots)and let it go deep within us, by His Simran, then only shall we see the difference within us, we shall come to know by ourselves, if we are true sikhs or just by lips.

There is no match to Gurbani, neither in taste, neither in the goodness... Gurbani is unique and supreme.

Sat Sree Akal.

[harsharan000]

Sangat Jee,

one more thing, the word religion comes from the latin word "religare", which means that which reunites with the origin.

And so what is that, that reunites our souls with our origin Wahiguru? As per Bani, it is Naam or Shabad only.

The teachings of our Guru Sahibans, in form of Bani or call it Sikhee, are the directions from Akal Purukh for we people, in order to free ourselves from this mayavee creation, and return back to Him.

And this "daat" as such, of this blessing of Sikhee on us, can never ever be destroyed or erased.

Firstly because we have no access to it, it is an inner path to be travelled within us, by our surtee.

This path is so subtle, that not even mind can walk on it, nor any gods/godesses, nor even Kal Purukh.

This path, even among all of us, only those wadbhagee jeevas whom He wishes so, will walk on it.

Nobody else can do so by his/her will.

So you see, the question of killing sikhee or ersaing or destroying does not arise at all. Sikhee is not like for example an outward road, where some bad people or terrorists come, bomb it and blow it.

Generally speaking, we take things too literally, but Sikhee is much much more than anything we can ever imagine even.

No gods, devtas or any power can ever alterate Sikhee as per the True teachings of our Guru Sahibans.

We may turn our backs to Sikhee, but then we are the ones to loose. Sikhee is still there, unshakable. If we turn our faces from the Sun, that does not mean, the Sun is drowning, it is we, who have chosen to walk in the darkness. And the result of this we all know, is that we shall fall in the pitfall of "chaurasee ka chakar".

Does not the Bani say: Aap japaae, japeeye so Nao; Aap gavaae, toh Har gun gaaun.

From this we understand, that it is He, by His apaar kirpa, that we mediatate on Him, by the repetition of His sweet Naam.

We are so full of filth, that if it was not for Him, we would never even think of Him, forget singing His glory alone.

So brothers, in a way we are lucky, we are blessed, that Wahiguru has allowed us, to love Him and have an infinitessimal idea of His magnificence. And that is not by any of our merits, but because of His unbound Daya Meher upon us.

So, this makes us to think a bit ; if having faith and love for Him, or walk the path of Sikhee is by His Hukum, why should we ever even laugh, taunt or get angry on those who know nothing about Wahiguru, or, they are following a different religion for any reason may it be: social, geographical, race or community....

Let us ask ourselves,what has that poor fellow/jeeva/soul done, to not be in Sikhee like any of us?

What can they ever do by themselves, if the creator Wahiguru, has placed them on other dharams, for the reasons which only He knows ?

Who can go against His Hukum?

If anybody has a little faith, or no faith in Him, believe it, that is because of his/her destiny/karmas, it means his/her time has not come yet,so we should never ever laugh or ill treat those who do not belive in Him, rather we should feel pity on them and pray Wahiguru, to also bless them, as they are His souls as much as we are.

We, by using His virtues of love, grace and mercy in us, and projecting those spiritual vibrations on others,we become divine and we get nearer/attracted to Him, as we are cultivating those virtues which have affinity with His nature.

If someone says under manmat or ignorance, my dharam is superior or better than yours, let them say, we know in the depth of our being, that, that is not true, but it is because, He has chosen us to believe in Him, and he not yet ...

We should thank Him baraambaar, for this His apaar kirpa on us.

Bani says: we are vishtaa ke kirey, and even then, He has chosen us, to get out from the filthy creation, and merge in Him.

Usually we take things for granted, but we can never even imagine how much Daya Meher has Wahiguru showered on us ...

It is beyond our comprehension ....

For all this Bakshish on us, we should never be proud of ourselves, but rather be humble from the bottom of our hearts, because all that we posses, or we know, is not much by our merits, but by His grace alone.

I am sure, some twisted mind may say, all this said above is cowardice, we should beat all those out there, who talk rubbish about Sikhee.

But let us ask ourselves, as said above, who can defeat of harm Sikhee?

It is the biggest stupid thing that one can think in doing so, because it is impossible...It is their bharam.

I think it needs a lot of courage and bravery to handle such unpleasant moments, it is easy to get carried away and enter into reactions, but it is the very Bani, which makes us much more mature then our opponents, to face them cheerfullly without loosing dignity, otherwise, we are at the same low level as the moorakhs.

I am sorry to say, but by slandering the Sun, the sunshine does not diminish, as the heights of the Sun are unreachable by anyone.

Other thing is, if someone comes to harm us, for that, yes we should do all the possible to defend ourselves.

There are some nice few words, full of wisdom from Charlie Chaplin, which I would like to share here:

You need power, only when you want to do something harmful, otherwise love is enoungh to get everything done.

And as true sikhs, we can bring changes to an extent, by being firm in our convictions, but without getting into the chains of violence and reactions.

Each and everyone here is free to do and believe what one feels like, just as I have expressed my opinions freely, but, I would say that much, I have given a touch to them, with the fragrance of Sikhee, that also, not of my own merits, but by His Grace alone.

May Wahiguru bless all.

Sat Sree Akal.

[Kira]

-long post-

You're posts never fail to capture how much wisdom you possess. That was really well written, thank you for sharing.

[harsharan000]

Dear Kira Jee,

you are most welcome.

Please, no thankings.

If ever, anything you want to give, just bless me so to have more and more love for His Lotus Feet.

It is an inmense pleasure to sing His glory and listen to His praises.

We are all here to do Wahiguru Akal Purukh´s sifat salah.

Sat Sree Akal.

[Kira]

Dear Kira Jee,

you are most welcome.

Please, no thankings.

If ever, anything you want to give, just bless me so to have more and more love for His Lotus Feet.

It is an inmense pleasure to sing His glory and listen to His praises.

We are all here to do Wahiguru Akal Purukh´s sifat salah.

Sat Sree Akal.

Who are we to bless you May Waheguru keep you on the right path and bless us with the same Budhhi you have.

[TheFancyBanana]

I disagree with some of the points made in this video. The issues "killing" Sikhi are far deeper and serious than these "problems".

Sikh names.

What is a Sikh name? Is Ishar, Gobind, Ram, Krishan, Kiran, Deep, Inder, along with many other formulaic names, Sikh names? Our Gurus had names from other traditions, Ram (the sovereign), Gobind (master of the Universe), Arjun (pure) all these names have roots in Sanskrit, Hindu traditions.

Guru Gobind Singh Ji's sons, two had Punjabi names Ajit (victorious, unbeaten) and Jujhar (warrior). While the other Sahibzade had Persian names Zorawar (mighty, brave) and Fateh (victory). Are these "Sikh" names? How about Iqbal Singh? There are SIkh Iqbals, but you'll find more Muslim Iqbals. The "Sikh" names Jarnail and Karnail, they come from French words for general and colonel. They came with French soldiers who came to Punjab to fight in Maharaja Ranjit Singh's army. Are these valid "Sikh" names?

Obviously there are some names which have a Sikh root. Any name with "Gur" can be said to be name inspired by Sikhi. There is a subset of authentic "Sikh" names, meaning Punjabi names that popped up in the genesis of Sikhi that relate to concepts in Sikhi. For example, any name with the prefix “Gur” (Gurbaksh, Gurpreet) relates to Guru. Obviously, for the vast majority of Sikhs, not everyone used these names. One notable Sikh that had such a name didn’t even go by it; Gurbaksh Singh being colloquially known as “Banda Singh Bahadur”. Some Muslims chose to change their names when they took Amrit like Ajmer Singh, but that was optional and done out of their own will.

There are two "Sikh" names that every Sikh should use. Singh and Kaur are the only names mandated by our Guru, as long as a Sikh uses these names, what does it matter what their first name is?

You can have an Arabic name like Kabir (great One) and be called Kabir Singh. You can have a Sanskrit name like Simran (rememberance) and be called Simran Kaur.

Never heard anyone say the story of Chotte Sahibzade is scary. Why was the Chotte Sahibzade movie so successful? Many children went to watch the movie. Also, we don't mourn deaths. We celebrate death, we celebrate shaheedi. The shaheedis are celebrated in Punjab with fun fairs. It is not a sad thing that these brave souls did such inspiring things.

Yes, we should remember our shaheeds. At Christmas, remind the children of the Sahibzade, give them a gift (if you give gifts for Christmas) but remind them of our Guru's sacrifice.

The fact that some people don't remember our shaheeds points to a much bigger problem than "they will be scared".

Sikhs don't know their own history. Many don't know how the sahibzade were Shaheed, many don't know why they were shaheed. Many don't even know HOW they were able to do the things they did.

Lack of parchar among Sikhs, how many times is Kirtan just sung in our Gurdwaras without translations or a katha on the words? How much discussion happens in our Gurdwaras?

[simran345]

Harsharan000 thank u ji from me too Kira ji is right words fail to express the joy I get from reading ur posts. Before I didn't understand them, now I see my soul is content in reading them. Thank u ji Waheguru for blessing us with good souls to learn from