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I don't slam my head against brick walls.

Further up on Ang 274, it is written:

ਪਰ ਤ੍ਰਿਅ ਰੂਪੁ ਨ ਪੇਖੈ ਨੇਤ੍ਰ ॥

Par Thria Roop N Paekhai Naethr ||

पर त्रिअ रूपु न पेखै नेत्र ॥

Whose eyes do not gaze upon the beauty of others' wives,

Which implies, does it not, that gazing upon the beauty of one's own wife is permissible. But if Guru Sahib then goes on to speak of "conquering sexual instinct", how can this be permissible? If all sexual instinct is bad, is this not also? Maybe, just maybe, its because conquering sexual instinct isn't the same as destroying all traces of sexual instinct within oneself. The two words are profoundly different. "Eindree Jith Panch Dhokh Thae Rehat".

Of course it shouldn't be overflowing, but directed at one person, in a monogamous relationship, I fail to see the harm in it.

If you want to conquer your sexual instinct, be my guest, I wish you luck. Just don't be surprised when your junk doesn't work.

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Balkaar, I do wish to tell you there is nothing wrong with loving a man, as Guru Sahib loves all of humanity, man and woman, boy and girl. But, he doesn't go around and marry everyone that he loves, rather a very small population of those he loved, because of circumstances: 1. Gurmat, 2. Bani, 3. Rehat, 4. Opposite gender. Because he wanted to show us sinners how to live. Guru Sahib doesn't love you any less because you constantly deny everything he indirectly or directly said, his love is eternal; but understand that he can't physically marry you due to various circumstances. Love a man, as your brother, love a woman, as your sister.

Your smugness is so palpable I could butter bread with it.

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Ya'll complicate things considerably - which is fine, I suppose, it's quite wonderful that Guru Sahib has given each Sikh the ability to view the same path in a multitude of different ways.

But the way I see it, the first principle of Sikhi is daya and Sikhi itself is the path of love. Only through indiscriminate love can Vaheguru be realised within oneself and within all others - jin prem kio tin hee prabh paaeeio - anything contrary to love, any abonxious theorising or hurtful condemnation can at once be seen to be a deviation from the path of love.

Guru Nanak Sahib's arms were open to all. There is no way we can block someone from the path when Guru Sahib themselves didn't do so. If you won't forget your chaturai and simply love and accept all, then I implore you at least to consider how the things you say affect those closeted souls who read these posts in hope and sadness.

If they're willing to be changed, then they are following righteousness; if they ask Guru Sahib to make them better and change their bad thinking then they can progress. We can assist them with breaking their shackles of homosexuality and lead them to either celibacy and straightness as Jugraj Singh from Basics Of Sikhi says.
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Your smugness is so palpable I could butter bread with it.

What did I say was wrong, now we know your not even Sikh; Guru Sahib does love everyone and you just think that I'm just being smug.
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Present where Gurbani, from Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji or Sri Dasam Granth Sahib ji or Bhai Gurdas Ji's Vaar says a Sikh is to enter into a monogamous relationship? As you ask where does it say homosexuals can't marry in Sikhi. In the same manner I am asking you this question.

You yourself spoke of "one man and one woman" on several occasions. That's what monogamy is. There is your instance of Gurbani saying Sikhs ought to be in monogamous relationships.

I can barely understand the second half of what you are saying. Please speak properly and use the necessary punctuation to avoid misunderstanding.

He doesn't say to look upon one's wife is permissible. But he implies it by singling out other peoples wives as being intacti.

Are you married? How is someone supposed to impregnate their wife if they can't even be aroused by their wife?

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