Rid Gurdwaras Of Politics, Say Sikh Intellectuals

[singhbj singh]

The SGPC members are money hungry corrupt atheist freemason morons who are they to decide what goes on in the Sikh religions anyways? They dont have any credibility and authority any more thats why Sikhs dont listen to them. Sikhs only respect leaders and organisations that have pro-sikh interests at heart and those who safeguard the lives and livelihoods of Sikhs across the world. SGPC has failed in all aspects and seen the decline of Sikh demographics and influence in the world thus making those who run it atheist punjabi non-sikhs and it a defunct non-sikh entity.

Does this tarlochan singh even know the history of darbar sahib and Sikh gurdwara's? The very symbol of Sikh political independence and thought that is the Sri Akal takht, the Sikh parliament was built by Guru Hargobind Sahib ji for Sikhs to have political and religious spiritual authority over their own affairs and destiny. How can you remove politics from gurdwaras when our Sikh history tells its story of Sikhs using gurdwara's not only for religious prayers but also have political discussions and plan political rallies / movements. Sikh gurdwara's were used as places for refuge and storing of arms against the invading forces of islamic mughuls, persians, afghans and British white christian colonialists and recent times the atheist secular Indian army/govt.

What is needed to prevent clashes at gurdwara's is everyone to observe a code of conduct that no Sikh is allowed to disrespect another Sikh of any sect/jatha within a gurdwara premises and no Sikh is allowed to use any physical force against another Sikh. Civilised behaviour is what is lacking instead of behaving like jungali's that have no respect for the sangat or Guru ji. Those clowns and thugs who start the fights will be labelled a non-sikh and rightfully barred from the premises. Also CCTV should be used in places where controversial political discussions are taking place so that there is evidence and everyone knows who has started the trouble,

I don't think you can run an organisation without politics & diplomacy but there shouldn't be violence.

If you wanna defeat the corrupt, Expose them in media.

A sting operation can do more damage than a blow to body.

[Akalifauj]

Poster Sheikhyobooty has been heavily influenced by missionaries. DamDami Taksal is a moving school. They go from place to place teaching proper pronunciation, understanding, and how to interpret Gurbani. God only knows how the missionaries have filled this kids head with lies. In the same breath he is praising Bhai Sahib ajnala and then discounting the credibility of DamDami Taksal; the same school Bhai Sahib Ajnala is a part of and learned from. Sant Jarnail Singh ji never left DamDami Taksal and I am not apart of any camp. I believe in a God as described in Sri Mool Mantar. When Sheikhyobooty believes in a god trapped in his bird cage. Every step his God tries to make into the infinity is robbed by this poster. How can such a person even begin to understand the workings of the infinity Lord? Sant ji is in Chardikala as Sant Baba Thakur Singh ji said. Baba ji is a Brahmgyani and this truth is confirmed by Sant Baba Jarnail Singh ji himself. Whoever, wants darshan of Baba ji can do ardas before Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji and ask for this Brahmgyanis darshan to clear the doubt, who Baba ji is. Such a humble, God fearing, Sadhsangat dust should never be slandered. Your mind is very limited due to the company you keep around you and because of your minds inability to understand Vaheguru's working you slander a true Brahmgyani. The spiritual bond between Sant Baba Thakur Singh ji and Sant Baba Jarnail Singh ji was of two Brahmgyanis. Sant Jarnail Singh ji called Baba ji, Vaheguru and Baba ji called Sant Jarnail Singh ji, Vaheguru. Why is Sant Baba Thakur Singh ji called Baba ji in this context? Because Baba ji is elder to Sant ji and therefore he deserves the respect of an elder. Two Brahmgyanis lead the Khalsa Panth to victory. Dhan Vaheguru, who gave this generation the darshan of two Brahmgyanis in the same era.

[SheikhYoBooty]

Have you even been on the DDT website? The don't even show the current one because that's disputed within the Taksal.

Bro that lineage is made up by some Taksali fan boy in the West. The dude doesn't even realise that Bishen Singh Muralewale were a Sant that belonged to the Sikh Panth not DDT. Sant Bishen Singh Ji was born as a Hindu but became a Gursikh but had nothing to do with DDT and they weren't even known as Bhindranwale. DDT have nothing to with Guru Gobind Singh Ji. That's like missionaries saying Guru Nanak Dev Ji was the first missionary and the first mukhi of Gurmat Gian.

First Jathedar being Baba Deep Singh Ji.

Damdami Taksal wasn't started by Sant Sunder Singh Ji.

Shaheed Baba Deep Singh Ji fought to the very end. Don't insult Baba Deep Singh Ji by falsely associating them with the same DamDami Taksal that campaigned for Indira Gandhi and Congress in the 1980 elections.

Sant ji is in Chardikala

Sant Jarnail Singh ji called Baba ji, Vaheguru and Baba ji called Sant Jarnail Singh ji, Vaheguru.

Two Brahmgyanis lead the Khalsa Panth to victory.

I partly respect Bhai Amrik Singh Ajnala Ji that yes he was the only one who opposed DamDami Taksal support for Indira Gandhi and Congress in the 1980 elections that crooks like Dhumma pushed together with Zail Sin.

That doesn't mean I agree with Bhai Sahib Ajnala on everything.

For example, Bhai Amrik Singh Ajnala also says Sant Ji are alive in 2015 living in a cave and Bhai Amrik Singh Ajnala believes Banda Singh Bahadur Ji is living in a cave near Kiratpur Sahib. I don't agree with these bogus stories. Sant Ji abandoned all the anti-Gurmat beliefs of DamDami Taksal by June 1984 and pledged themself solely to the Khalsa Panth and Sarbat da Bhala.

[Guest Jacfsing2]

Bro that lineage is made up by some Taksali fan boy in the West. The dude doesn't even realise that Bishen Singh Muralewale were a Sant that belonged to the Sikh Panth not DDT. Sant Bishen Singh Ji was born as a Hindu but became a Gursikh but had nothing to do with DDT and they weren't even known as Bhindranwale. DDT have nothing to with Guru Gobind Singh Ji. That's like missionaries saying Guru Nanak Dev Ji was the first missionary and the first mukhi of Gurmat Gian.

Shaheed Baba Deep Singh Ji fought to the very end. Don't insult Baba Deep Singh Ji by falsely associating them with the same DamDami Taksal that campaigned for Indira Gandhi and Congress in the 1980 elections.

I partly respect Bhai Amrik Singh Ajnala Ji that yes he was the only one who opposed DamDami Taksal support for Indira Gandhi and Congress in the 1980 elections that crooks like Dhumma pushed together with Zail Sin.

That doesn't mean I agree with Bhai Sahib Ajnala on everything.

For example, Bhai Amrik Singh Ajnala also says Sant Ji are alive in 2015 living in a cave and Bhai Amrik Singh Ajnala believes Banda Singh Bahadur Ji is living in a cave near Kiratpur Sahib. I don't agree with these bogus stories. Sant Ji abandoned all the anti-Gurmat beliefs of DamDami Taksal by June 1984 and pledged themself solely to the Khalsa Panth and Sarbat da Bhala.

Guru Sahib did form the Taksal, before you just say stuff please show some actual evidence in support of your views: http://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Damdami_Taksaal (actual evidence), evidence for your view, (............................), a lot of unidentified proof.

[SheikhYoBooty]

^ Ok Jaco bro explain this (why do DDT have a rehraas at odds with Guru Gobind Singh Ji?):

Guru Gobind Singh started the taksal (nothing to do with DDT) at Takht Sri DamDama Sahib

Which u seem to be getting confused by bro as DamDami Taksal play upon the name to get credibility.

This is DamDami Taksal rehraas

ਦੋਹਰਾ॥

ਰਾਮ ਕਥਾ ਜੁਗ ਜੁਗ ਅਟਲ ਸਭ ਕੋਈ ਭਾਖਤ ਨੇਤ॥

ਸੁਰਗ ਬਾਸ ਰਘੁਬਰ ਕਰਾ ਸਗਰੀ ਪੁਰੀ ਸਮੇਤ॥1॥

ਚੌਪਈ॥

ਜੋ ਇਹ ਕਥਾ ਸੁਨੈ ਅਰੁ ਗਾਵੈ॥

ਦੂਖ ਪਾਪ ਤਿਹ ਨਿਕਟ ਨਾ ਆਵੈ॥

ਬਿਸਨ ਭਗਤ ਕੀ ਏ ਫਲ ਹੋਈ॥

ਆਧਿ ਬਯਾਧਿ ਛ੍ਵੈ ਸਕੈ ਨ ਕੋਈ॥1॥

(in Roman transliteration):

Dohraa

Raam kathaa jug jug atal, sabh koee bahkhat nayt.

Surg baas raghubar karaa, sagri puree samay. 1

Chaupai

Jo ih kathaa sunai aur gaavai.

Dookh paap tih nikat naa aavai.

Bisan bhagat kee ih phal ho-ee.

Aaadhi byadhi chhvai sakai naa ko-ee. 1

(English translation): Dohra

The story of Ram will remain known through Ages and all shall ever narrate it.

Raghubar (Ram) went to heavens and took his entire city with him.

(So, the taksal worships Ram):

Dohra

Those who will listen to or sing this (Ram’s) story;

sufferings and sins will not come near him.

This will be the fruit (profit) of the meditation upon the name of Vsihnu.

No disease or illness will be able to touch him. 1

(So, the taksal worships Vishnu also):

Giani Sunder Singh (1883-1930) of Bhinder Kalan village (in Firozpur district) was the founder of modern day Damdami Taksal.

Sunder Singh Ji was known as ‘Sri Maan 108 Giani Sunder Singh Nirmala’; he was a student of Pandit Jawala Das Udasi

[hsingh8963]

Sheikh you didn't answer the question. Sant Jarnail Singh Ji stated Baba Deep Singh Ji was the first Jathedar. So answer the question.

[SheikhYoBooty]

^ 8963 bro Sant Ji said it at a time when they actually believed in DDT ideology before 1984.

Just like in 1980 when DamDami Taksal openly and actively campaigned for Indira Gandhi and Congress in the elections that led to Indira being elected, which in turn led to the beginning of Indira Gandhi's Genocide against Sikhs.

But by June 1984 Sant Ji was the biggest existential threat to Indira Gandhi after abandoning DDT to serve the Panth.

Similarly by June 1984 Sant Ji and all our mahaan shaheeds had rejected all these anti-Gurmat samparda's.

All our mahaan shaheeds pledged their life only for the Sikh Panth and Sarbat da Bhala.

[carinder]

^ 8963 bro Sant Ji said it at a time when they actually believed in DDT ideology before 1984.

Just like in 1980 when DamDami Taksal openly and actively campaigned for Indira Gandhi and Congress in the elections that led to Indira being elected, which in turn led to the beginning of Indira Gandhi's Genocide against Sikhs.

But by June 1984 Sant Ji was the biggest existential threat to Indira Gandhi after abandoning DDT to serve the Panth.

Similarly by June 1984 Sant Ji and all our mahaan shaheeds had rejected all these anti-Gurmat samparda's.

All our mahaan shaheeds pledged their life only for the Sikh Panth and Sarbat da Bhala.

this only start 1984 when sant baba jarnail singh went to golden temple and support it but it only india goverment that want to kill sant baba jarnail singh bindwale

[PiaraS]

Vulgar Functions by Badals Offend Sikhs

November 21, 2011

Source: Khalsa Press

LECHERS AND SCOUNDRELS

Lecherous Actors, Dancers and anti-Sikh Elements being given VIP Treatment in Punjab and at Sikh Institutions and Functions

Sacred Heritage or Bollywood Entertainment?

Nov. 21st 2011 - The Badal family along their cronies of the SGPC and Akali Dal (Badal), again, insulted the religious sentiments of the Sikh community with the announcement that it would invite various anti-Panthic individuals, Bollywood actors and actresses to the upcoming opening of the Khalsa Heritage Project dubbed as "Viraasat-e-Khalsa" in Sri Anandpur Sahib this week.

The hastily organized opening ceremony is being billed as yet another cheap publicity stunt before the forthcoming state assembly elections. This is been seen as yet another item to series of blunders by the younger Badal Sukhbir, who has been at the helm various publicity fiascos across Punjab, including the opening ceremonies for the controversial Kabaddi competition in which semi-clad women danced with Bollywood actors to the public cost of three crore Indian rupees.

Pseudo-Nirankari singer "Miss Pooja" who belongs the heretic "Nakali Nirankari" cult that murdered 13 innocent Sikhs in April of 1978, and 10 more Sikhs in September of the same year. According to the edict issued by Sri Akal Takht Sahib against the Pseudo-Nirankaris, no Sikh is allowed to associate or intermingle with followers of this sect.

Interestingly, Parkash Badal was also the chief minister of Punjab during that time, and provide safe-haven for the murderous cultists

LECHERS AND SCOUNDRELS: Raunchy entertainers being promoted by the Badal Family

Panthic organizations chided Akali Dal Badal and the Takht Jathedars for their silence on this matter. According the press release by the Badal Government :

"ਇਸ ਉਦਘਾਟਨੀ ਸਮਾਗਮ ਮੌਕੇ ਹੋਰਨਾਂ ਤੋਂ ਇਲਾਵਾ ਆਰਟ ਆਫ ਲਿਵਿੰਗ ਦੇ ਪ੍ਰਮੁੱਖ ਸ਼੍ਰੀ ਸ਼੍ਰੀਰਵੀ ਸ਼ੰਕਰ, ਉਘੀ ਫਿਲਮੀ ਹਸਤੀ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਅਮਿਤਾਭ ਬਚਨ, ਉਘੀ ਗਾਇਕਾ ਸ੍ਰੀਮਤੀ ਆਸ਼ਾ ਭੌਂਸਲੇ, ਫਿਲਮੀ ਅਦਾਕਾਰਾ ਹੇਮਾ ਮਾਲਿਨੀ, ... ਵੀ ਹਾਜਰੀਆਂ ਭਰਨਗੇ।"
"At the grand opening ceremony, among others, Art of Living head, Sri RaviShankar, prominent movie personality Sri Amitabh Bachan, prominent singer Srimati Asha Bhonsalay, movie actress Hema Malini, ...will also be present."

According to eyewitnesses, one of he invited "VIPs", Indian movie actor, Amitabh Bachan, is guilty of rousing the blood thirsty mobs of Hindu zealots during the government sponsored November 1984 pogroms in which thousands of innocent men, women, and children were killed, lynched, and raped.

There is currently a criminal complaint pending against Bachchan in Australia that was filed by Sikhs for Justice (SFJ) , a US-based human rights organization. According to the complaint, Bachan has been charged for giving murderous calls of Blood for Blood on October 31, 1984 after which widespread, systematic and organized attacks were unleashed against innocent Sikhs throughout India.

Amusingly, the Badal installed Jathedar of Sri Akal Takht Sahib, Giani Gurbachan Singh, expressed his dissatisfaction of the "VIP" guest list concocted by the Badals, but is unwilling to take any action or interfere out of fear of offending the Badals and possibility losing his position as a "Jathedar".

According to press reports Takht Sri KesGarh Sahib Jathedar Giani Trilochan Singh, provided his stamp of approval to the Khalsa Heritage grand opening functions and actively partook in planning meetings organized by various Punjab government representatives, including Parkash Badal's chief adviser Daljit Cheema.

Giani Tarlochan Singh at Badal Representatives discussing 'Entertainment Plans'

[Guest Jacfsing2]

^ 8963 bro Sant Ji said it at a time when they actually believed in DDT ideology before 1984.

Just like in 1980 when DamDami Taksal openly and actively campaigned for Indira Gandhi and Congress in the elections that led to Indira being elected, which in turn led to the beginning of Indira Gandhi's Genocide against Sikhs.

But by June 1984 Sant Ji was the biggest existential threat to Indira Gandhi after abandoning DDT to serve the Panth.

Similarly by June 1984 Sant Ji and all our mahaan shaheeds had rejected all these anti-Gurmat samparda's.

All our mahaan shaheeds pledged their life only for the Sikh Panth and Sarbat da Bhala.

Since we're talking about Taksal Maryada, could you please explain what's anti-gurmat in it? I haven't really seen anything. Also FYI: Nindak is bad.