Doing Paath But No Simran

[N30S1NGH]

Also throughout this journey I would like to state that your definition of naam will keep changing as your understanding increases.

Totally agree, this is from bhai vir singh ji -

What is Naam?

By Bhai sahib Bhai Vir Singh Ji

Naam in the words of Bhai Sahib Bhai Vir Singh Ji

When this eternal pure light meets with the spark of light within you, at that moment enlightenment takes place. Your life as you know it ceases. This pure light transforms you. Wonder and gratitude fill every pore of your being.

If this union does not take place, then you continue to live like an extinguished lamp, low in spirits and powerless to rise above worldly desires. This is the cause of pain and suffering. So train your mind to always remain in the presence of the Divine.

Think, when you remember someone, is your attention not that person? Attention is the essence in this world. When you give something your total attention, the work gets accomplished. But when the attention gets diverted, the work suffers. When a student gives his attention to his education, he gets educated. Similarly, if you focus your attention on the Divine and its attributes, you too will reap the benefits. So raise your consciousness above the seen world and focus your attention on the Divine.

When you begin to feel the love of the Divine within your mind and body, know that grace has been bestowed. This is naam.

Dyed in the love of the Divine you will see the Divine pervading everywhere. This is naam.

When your attention turns from the seen world, towards the Divine world, that is also naam.

Naam is not mere repetition.

Naam is repetition, recitation, remembrance and sensation.

Naam is life.

Naam is grace.

[BhagatBalmik]

Waheguru

What im talking about is how some sikhs dont set aside time to jap the Gurmanter. Reading Gurbani is not japing the Gurmanter.

Like waking up at amrit wela and jap waheguru waheguru

One who calls himself a Sikh of the Guru, the True Guru, shall rise in the early morning hours and meditate on the Lord`s Name.

gur satgur kaa jo sikh akhaa-ay so bhalkay uth har naam Dhi-aavai.

Remember the earlys sikhs like Sajjan Thug didn't have Gurbani to read they just got the Gurmanter from Sri Guru Nanak Sahib Ji to jap and most sikhs couldnt read anyways.

Bhai Gurdas Waheguru Gurmanter hai Jap houmi koi

The point im trying to make is alot of sikhs dont jap naam they think just reading gurbani is all you have to do. Reading Gurbani is good and we should do that, but every shabd in gurbani is about japping the Gumanter. We should set aside couple of hours, where we sit down close our eyes and begain to repeat waheguru waheguru and have love for the Gurmanter.

That is my question does this sangat set aside time to jap the gurmanter like in the early morning.

waheguru

[luckysingh99]

As per rehat, Gurmantar jap at amrit vela is in addition to nitnem bania.

[followthelight]

I have noticed since adding Gurmantar jaap to my nitnem at amritvela, life is even more blissful. There is something so beautiful and powerful about our Gurmantar. We definitely should take time out to reflect, be grateful and experience the significance of this.

Also agree that Gurbani can help get into meditative feels like simran...especially if we do e.g. 10+ Japji sahib per day over a month or so. 

What motivated me to start Gurmantar simran was someone said what's the point of reading nitnem, sehaj paath, etc? At the end of the day what is said by Sri Guru Granth Sahib over and over again? simple, to remember Waheguru. So why don't we? That made me rethink, hope it helps you out. 

[sitokaur]

Vahiguroo kirpa dya _/\_,

impossible to achieve any living amongst smoking etc neighbors, especially with walls thin like paper, and unable to afford to move to Gursikh area, to truly progressin bhagti

[sitokaur]

in jail chittian of Bhai Randhir Singh Jio, Bhai Sahib made benti for ardas, so he could be free of such prison condition.  

Bhai Sahib did intense Gurbani atey Naam bhagti, and received Vahiguroo darshan, yet he knew he had to be free from bad prison surroundings.

Bhagti anand is impossible amongst non sikhs, atey non practising sikhs, who convinced their kurr happiness, and Vahiguroo seekers are the misfits of society

[sitokaur]

typo correct: their kurr happiness is ultimate happiness and contentment..

[Sukhvirk1976]

11 minutes ago, sitokaur said:

in jail chittian of Bhai Randhir Singh Jio, Bhai Sahib made benti for ardas, so he could be free of such prison condition.  

Bhai Sahib did intense Gurbani atey Naam bhagti, and received Vahiguroo darshan, yet he knew he had to be free from bad prison surroundings.

Bhagti anand is impossible amongst non sikhs, atey non practising sikhs, who convinced their kurr happiness, and Vahiguroo seekers are the misfits of society

I'm confused 

[sitokaur]

Vahiguroo, whether doing Gurbani or Naam Simran, it is also important to be living amongst Gursikhs ONLY_/\_

[simran345]

3 hours ago, sitokaur said:

impossible to achieve any living amongst smoking etc neighbors, especially with walls thin like paper,

This is the norm for most people. If it's not smoking inside one's own house, then I don't see how it will affect somebody's spirituality. Neighbours - everybody has neighbours, but if they are very noisy, then ask them politely to keep it down. There are laws against noise and what's not accepted.