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Bhai gurdas ji vaaran: Vaar 1,pauri 4,line 6.

I read it and it's talking about Vaheguru in human form,(Guru Sahib), not Vishnu. He came in 10 forms, (10 Gurus in human form), but you still have a right to interpretation, that's just the conclusion I got.(Because all of Gurdas Vaarans talk only about Guru Sahib or relate to him somehow.
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since we are talking about ending the evils of kalyug ...how will the evildoers be punished by akal purakh ki fauj ? in the many interpretations of kalki story there is mention of a disease that kills many sounds like a haemmorhgaic fever type thing. But will Khalsa kill the murderers, rapists, paedophiles, and other adharmi dushts or be like akal purakh and neutral/dayavaan and leave it to Akal Purakh?

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since we are talking about ending the evils of kalyug ...how will the evildoers be punished by akal purakh ki fauj ? in the many interpretations of kalki story there is mention of a disease that kills many sounds like a haemmorhgaic fever type thing. But will Khalsa kill the murderers, rapists, paedophiles, and other adharmi dushts or be like akal purakh and neutral/dayavaan and leave it to Akal Purakh?

Only when the time comes one will know. We don't know our own future therefore only Waheguruji knows.

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since we are talking about ending the evils of kalyug ...how will the evildoers be punished by akal purakh ki fauj ? in the many interpretations of kalki story there is mention of a disease that kills many sounds like a haemmorhgaic fever type thing. But will Khalsa kill the murderers, rapists, paedophiles, and other adharmi dushts or be like akal purakh and neutral/dayavaan and leave it to Akal Purakh?

The existence of khalsa is pointless if they don't destroy murderers, rapists, paedophiles etc and save and protect the innocent because one of the qualities mentioned in gurbani is to become a parupakari. Also, in jaap sahib one of Vaheguru's qualities is to destroy tyrants and to protect the innocent, and a sikh should be aiming to achieve all of vaheguru's qualities and become a pure embodiment of these qualities, hence a khalsa.

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You must be mad to compare homosexuality to incest. The world isn't black and white, there are different kinds of people living in it, not just straight people. It's not a trend and its not something to cure, its how they feel about who they are and something we should respect and support. To compare it to kaam is ridiculous too, as if straight people are perfect and non-kaami people when I've even seen young sikhs getting married because they are attached to kaam. People who think this way are living in a small, sheltered world, and a world that they do not understand. Just because you are in a religion that doesn't mean you are confined to a certain way and cannot be open-minded...other religious texts speak more openly about denouncing homosexuality compared to Guru Granth Sahib Jee which doesn't. Guru Sahib is more open-minded that is why, plus as Gurbani states other religious texts are false and I can understand why, they literally feel as if they have been written by men living in a certain time, accustomed to a certain barbaric and narrow-minded way. Guru Sahib thought outside the box regardless of his time period e.g. he preached gender equality in a time when men were so proud, cruel and stupid not to understand such a concept.

Homosexual lifestyle and Sikhi are incompatible. The Akal Takht has given it's ruling on this matter clearly stating that a Sikh must only marry with the opposite gender. Besides this, no where in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee will you find any thing in support of homosexuality. In fact in Gurbani, Guru Jee always looks at marriage as between a man and woman. What's interesting is even the spiritual relation between the Jeev Aatma and Parmaatma(Vaheguru) is metaphorically mentioned as one between a wife and husband.

There is no historic precedent of homosexuality in Sikh ithihaas. Since the start Gursikhs have only married women. Guru Granth Sahib jee is our Guru that saves us from Kalyugi induced kaami lifestyles. People are born with all sorts of perverse tendencies such as pedophilia, zoophilia, incest, doesn't mean people should give in to their animalistic urges.

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Sant gurbachan singh bhindranwale in sukhmani sahib 21st astphadi below talks about bhramgyani gyan parloa avastha- turiya atith avastha -maha samadhi stage (stage of karak mahapursh like sant ajit singh hansali wale among others)- full absolute view so this is not just state of absolute which is out there some where above in sky in void this is very much LIVE and in experience yet beyond expereince as it transcedent all in non transcendental state

ਜਬ ਏਕਹਿ ਹਰਿ ਅਗਮ ਅਪਾਰ ॥ जब एकहि हरि अगम अपार ॥
Jab ekėh har agam apār. When there was only the Lord, Unfathomable and Infinite,
ਤਬ ਨਰਕ ਸੁਰਗ ਕਹੁ ਕਉਨ ਅਉਤਾਰ ॥ तब नरक सुरग कहु कउन अउतार ॥
Ŧab narak surag kaho ka▫un a▫uṯār. then who entered hell, and who entered heaven? Who was avtar?
Closest best possible analogy (for understanding purposes not exact analogy) is given which everyone can relate to, even doubters or denials cannot deny it - is state of deep sleep, these relative realities does not arise or subsides in deep sleep because they don't exist in experience. So how can these relative realities be absolute?
Finally, I am not denying kalki avtar will come, off course it will come as its written in dasam granth..what i am saying one needs to see it from absolute so these things appear and disappear in from absolute and back in absolute so one does not carry away in relative realities and mistakenly take them as absolute reality. Many muslims, christians, hindus have fallen into this trap looks like many of us also do as we have crazy problem with personality worship as we forget about the source. Sikhs already been cautioned in gurbani and sri dasam granth(every living thing swallowed by kaal-primal force- this example is shown to rise perception of seeker from relative to absolute) by our guru sahib so we don't fall into same trap. In fact our mool mantar, gurbani mahavaks of unity make sures there are no separate relative reality on its own-sargun and nirgun is one in full harmony/unity to the point its all ONE there are no distinction. So whenever we talk about sargun reality on its own and totally ignore nirgun-absolute in harmony with sargun then there is a problem in mindset.

Deep Stuff. Lol

Can you provide the Audio From Sant Ji.

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