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Dear Balbir Singh Ji,

You have quoted lines from SGGS on many occasions, giving your definition of Gurbani's message. Could you please provide quotes from SGGS that prohibits one from fornication with mother or sister?

Many thanks,

Waheguru....

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MokhamSingh Jee,The topic of this thread shows your interests and curiosity.It was shocking for me to read your question while discussing the true Guru's Vaak 'raam japao jeeo aise aise'.I remembered the news about that Granthee who was caught watching a porno movie on his smart phone while doing Sewa of SGGS Jee.Let us come to your curiosity.You asked "does SGGS allow one to fornicate with one's own mother or sister?"Please listen. Gurdev is singing.ਮਾਤ ਪਿਤਾ ਸੰਜੋਗਿ ਉਪਾਏ ਰਕਤੁ ਬਿੰਦੁ ਮਿਲਿ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਕਰੇ ॥मात पिता संजोगि उपाए रकतु बिंदु मिलि पिंडु करे ॥maat pitaa sanjogi upaae rakatu bindu mili pindu kare. SGGS Ang 1013-16Through the union of mother and father the ovum and sperm meet to form the body.The Jeev enters the father and gets matured receiving the form of sperm. The Jeev then excites the father to join the mother. The Jeev is the pure Ansha (part) of God.Through the father the Jeev enters the mother's yoni and then the womb (garabh).His engagements and activities show his development toward God or the world.ਤੇ ਦੂਜੈ ਭਾਇ ਪਵਹਿ ਗ੍ਰਭ ਜੋਨੀ ਸਭੁ ਬਿਰਥਾ ਜਨਮੁ ਤਿਨ ਜਾਇਬਾ ॥੩॥ते दूजै भाइ पवहि ग्रभ जोनी सभु बिरथा जनमु तिन जाइबा ॥३॥te doojai bhaai pavahi grabh jonee sabhu birthaa janamu tin jaaibaa. SGGS ang 697-13alsoਬਿਨੁ ਸਿਮਰਨ ਆਵਹਿ ਫੁਨਿ ਜਾਵਹਿ ਗ੍ਰਭ ਜੋਨੀ ਨਰਕ ਮਝਾਰਾ ਹੇ ॥੯॥बिनु सिमरन आवहि फुनि जावहि ग्रभ जोनी नरक मझारा हे ॥९॥binu simran aavahi phuni jaavahi grabh jonee narak majhaaraa he. SGGS Ang 1030-13Entering a mother's Yonee or Jonee repeatedly and coming out of it into the world is called 'aavan jaanee'.It is only true Simran that frees the Jeev from 'aavan jaanee'.Please listen. Gurdev is singing.ਗੁਰ ਪਰਸਾਦਿ ਐਸੀ ਬੁਧਿ ਸਮਾਨੀ ॥गुर परसादि ऐसी बुधि समानी ॥gur parsaadi aisee budhi samaanee.ਚੂਕਿ ਗਈ ਫਿਰਿ ਆਵਨ ਜਾਨੀ ॥੩॥चूकि गई फिरि आवन जानी ॥३॥chooki gaee phiri aavan jaanee. SGGS 337-5MokhamSingh Jee, One should ask Him or His holy parents Hari Raayaa the question.How often one has to fornicate with his own mother?Balbir Singh

These quotes explain the biology behind conception, and explains births. The quotes you provided do not answer the question of 'fornication with mother or sister'.

If you cannot provide specific quotes from SGGS regarding this matter, then would you agree that the teachings of SGGS have to be taken in the wider context of GURMAT.

Waheguru....

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MokhamSingh Jee,A photocopier can never produce real currency notes.His state becomes more miserable if the bank notes he copies are fake.The worldly religions are like false bank notes.Their preachers are like their photocopiers.Please come to know true Naam Simran. You may recognize true bank notes and their value.There is no other way to realize the truth.Balbir Singh

If you consider Guru Nanak as false, and if you consider Gurmat as false, please provide 'Mukti' through your grace.

Waheguru....

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MokhamSingh Jee,Each individual first enters the mother's Yoni through the father. The stay in the mother's womb is also his experience and learning period.I do not know anyone who has not fornicated with his mother.In other words No one is born without his mother.Balbir Singh

Please use the Oxford English Dictionary to understand the meaning of 'fornication'.

Waheguru...

p.s. stick to the original question, or concede that SGGS has to be taken in the wider context of Gurmat. If you do not have the ability to answer the original question, please say so....

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MokhamSingh Jee,

You wrote "If you consider Guru Nanak as false, and if you consider Gurmat as false,. . ."

Alone this imagination shows your state of mind.

You continued "please provide 'Mukti' through your grace."

You are asking for 'Mukti' from human grace. You surely belong to a dumb dummy tabber.

*****

You wrote "Please use the Oxford English Dictionary to understand the meaning of 'fornication'."

Did you use the Oxford English Dictionary to express yourself, why not Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee?

Balbir Singh

It would've been wise to engage in a conversation with you, if only you were competent in the English language, if only you didn't lack logic, if only you didn't lack rationality.

Waheguru....

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Mohkam Singh,

This Balbir character is a dubious one and he has been seen on many forum with an agenda for few years now. 1 thing for sure is he doesnt believe in Naam Simran.

Dont waste time with him...he is mischievous and cunning and knows how to be politically right at the same time.

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  • 3 weeks later...

VAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA, VAHEGURU JI KI FATEH

...and why is Balbir Baba still have an account active in Sikhsangat? If child birth is intercourse, then I guess going number 2 is sodomy? Really dude, chill out. This is not a place where you will get chelae. Go attend to your current followers or cash the RSS paycheck.

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