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You wrote "Please do tell me then what name of god you do jaap off, or do you not believe in mantar jaap at all?"

The True Naam is not an advertisement. It is also not for sharing with anyone.

It's another squirrel from the secret squirrel society ! :excited: :lol2: :excited:

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LOL.. :stupidme: :biggrin2: :tease: :giggle: :omg: :lol: :poke: :whistle: :whistle: :laugh2: :waheguru:

I dont know why you are laughing so hard. Balbir and you are the same but at opposite ends. In the same way you tried to present Gurbani lines out of context. Thats exactly what balbir has done. He says he has the hidden message and you say your Baba and you have the hidden message. He demonized you in this discussion and you demonized others in the past in the same way.

I have to admit balbir trapped you and is more correct about praise even though with his last post he went completely crazy.

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On the topic of gurmantra. BHAI GURDAS JI cleared the issue by saying Vaheguru is the true mantra.

Jaap of har, raam, satnaam, akaal, Vaheguru are only virtues with the instructions of the Guru. If today someone says jaap Vaheguru and the person ask what is the arth (meaning) of it. The person says the meaning is a women with a red suit on sitting in the mountain eating nuts. There will be no virtue in jaap Vaheguru. The person will be meditating on a woman with a red suit on sitting in the mountain eating nuts. How much sense does this make.

Jaap har today or tomorrow but make sure you know the meaning. Hindus listen to Gurbani and when they hear Har. They remember Krishna. When they read Raam. They remember Raamchandr. They might as well remember the lady up in the mountain with a red suit on eating nuts.

A mantra only gets the stamp of Gurmantra when the true understanding behind it is given by the true Guru; Gurbani.

Jaap of Allah, Har, Raam, Govind, etc is not impure. The meaning and instructions given by a fool make it lost in vain.

How many pauri does Jaap Sahib have? 199. How many names do Muslims say there is for God? 99. Any connection here? What language is most of Jaap Sahib written in? Language that Muslims understand. Jaap Sahib directly attacks there theory of only 99 names and says there is unlimited at the beginning and stopping at 199 pauris. 199 means unlimited. All can't be said. If Gur sahib made 200 pauris the reader is given the indication the names are complete. 200 is a nice even number that indicates a end. But there is no end, no last. This forces the mind to think of the beginning where Guru Sahib say not all can be said. Brings peace, and contentment In the persons mind because it shows only he knows all. Total surrender.

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Pray Truth for all and say Sat Sree Akaal,
Dear all,

luckysingh99 and harsharan000 tried to introduce their relatives, friends and people they move around.
Their posts prove what company they move in and what they have received from their mentor.

The true Gurus say the true Naam is found in the company of a Sadhu.
The treachery started calling the crowd of seekers Sadhu Sangat.

The true Guru says the Gurdwara is the tenth door. The wisdom of Naam enters through it. Antaryaatraa, the inner journey, begins.
The treachery started calling a building Gurdwara.

The result is obvious. Unlucky people started calling themselves luckysingh99 and manmukhs themselves harsharan000.

*****

You pray and wish that you and your children are freed from the clutches of treachery and evil preachers then search and receive the true Naam.

Receiving the Gur of true Naam each and every Vaak from Gurdev becomes your experience.

Balbir Singh

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Whilst its true in gurmat- Naam is gurbani, Vahiguroo, mool mantra etc. It's also true on deep level in Gurmat - naam cannot be uttered as its absolute existence truth so one cannot confine naam into static name.

Here sachkhand vasi bhramgyani sant mani singh ji talks about this:

http://www.akalbungasahib.com/babaji.html

Nothing is hidden from God because God is the inside of everything. The inside knows all. You can hide something from others, but you can’t hide it from yourself. And it is there that God is hidden.”

baba_mani3.jpg

He went on to say “Why have we invented so many names for God? There must be a certain reason, because God cannot be named, a name can easily be changed, but God remains the same. So why has God been addressed? Because there are moments when you would like to scream out your inner feelings to God in sheer joy. Some name is needed. Muslim Sufis invented ninety-nine names of God that are so beautiful, but why not a hundred? Ninety-nine looks a bit incomplete. There is a certain reason the hundredth name is kept silent and that is the true name of God, which of course can’t be uttered. That is why Guru Nanak said ‘Satnam’. Your name is thee truth. But in reality you can’t utter it because it will lose its’ beauty. It remains un-uttered at the deepest core of the heart. What is God’s true name? Nobody knows that all the names are man’s creation. The true name of God is the existence that surrounds you.”

How can one call Him by all His names? The wise give him names according to His manifestations – Jap Sahib, Guru Gobind Singh Ji He goes on saying. “those kind (the irreligious) of people haven’t known anything of spiritual experience. They’ve never felt any presence of God. The only way to receive God is to drop all your searching and seeking. The real question is recognition, not search, and the only way to know God is to live God.”

Bhai Vir singh Ji gives similar various deep spiritual perception/meaning/ of Naam- http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?/topic/74092-what-is-naam/?p=606834

What is Naam?

By Bhai sahib Bhai Vir Singh Ji

Naam in the words of Bhai Sahib Bhai Vir Singh Ji

When this eternal pure light meets with the spark of light within you, at that moment enlightenment takes place. Your life as you know it ceases. This pure light transforms you. Wonder and gratitude fill every pore of your being.

If this union does not take place, then you continue to live like an extinguished lamp, low in spirits and powerless to rise above worldly desires. This is the cause of pain and suffering. So train your mind to always remain in the presence of the Divine.

Think, when you remember someone, is your attention not that person? Attention is the essence in this world. When you give something your total attention, the work gets accomplished. But when the attention gets diverted, the work suffers. When a student gives his attention to his education, he gets educated. Similarly, if you focus your attention on the Divine and its attributes, you too will reap the benefits. So raise your consciousness above the seen world and focus your attention on the Divine.

When you begin to feel the love of the Divine within your mind and body, know that grace has been bestowed. This is naam.

Dyed in the love of the Divine you will see the Divine pervading everywhere. This is naam.

When your attention turns from the seen world, towards the Divine world, that is also naam.

Naam is not mere repetition.

Naam is repetition, recitation, remembrance and sensation.

Naam is life.

Naam is grace.

On a deeper level, naam is also moment of unity or unity itself with akaal purkh.

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Pray Truth for all and say Sat Sree Akaal,
Dear all and BarinderSingh jee,

You wrote "On the topic of gurmantra. BHAI GURDAS JI cleared the issue by saying Vaheguru is the true mantra."
May I ask? Is BHAI GURDAS JI your Guru?

Did the true Gurus ever mention Bhai Gurdas ji's name in SGGS jee?

Balbir Singh

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I dont know why you are laughing so hard. Balbir and you are the same but at opposite ends. In the same way you tried to present Gurbani lines out of context. Thats exactly what balbir has done. He says he has the hidden message and you say your Baba and you have the hidden message. He demonized you in this discussion and you demonized others in the past in the same way.

I have to admit balbir trapped you and is more correct about praise even though with his last post he went completely crazy.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha .....

For me you and Balbir jee, with all respects live on the same mental floor.

Try to learn to laugh man, do not be so rigid that you do not even know and understand a joke.

All of us can shower you and Balbir Singh, with more hard nouns that you both use, but that then will not make any differences between you both, and the rest of us.

So at least I am not going to reply any of your nonsenses anymore, there is no way!

But both of you only deserve, sympathy and pity from the rest of us, cause your are already condemmed with your present mental condition.

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There is a just one Babeh for me, and that is Baba Nanak, the Guru Sahibans, and the Guru Granth Sahib, so if you have any other polluted fantasies in your mind, better remove them.

So we can not do anything but pity you, may God bless you

Sat Sree Akal

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