** Tom Watson Uk Member Of Parliament Reveals Biggest Secret: Britain Involved In 1984 Army Attack On Darbar Sahib

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Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Bhaji, We have looked into the International Criminal Court to seek justice for Sikhs.

The court theoretically has universal jurisdiction, but can only prosecute if the state, where the crimes were committed or the state of the nationality of the accused, are party to the Rome Statute.

The International Criminal Court was created by the Rome Statute which came into force on 1 July 2002. Unfortunately, India has neither signed nor ratified or acceded to the Rome Statute.

This link explains some of the reasons - http://www.ielrc.org/content/a0505.pdf

The International Criminal Court has no police force of its own to track down and arrest suspects. Instead, it must rely on national police services to make arrests and seek their transfer to The Hague. So, the chances are zero.

India and the United States signed a pact under which they agreed not to send each other's nationals to a world tribunal. The court has been ratified by 121 countries - but not by the US, China, Russia and others, so the International Criminal Court is largely ineffective but makes good propaganda with fallen dictators.

Unfortunately, the UN is equally ineffective.

More recent news -

Statement on military support for the events surrounding the Sri Harmandir Sahib massacre will be made in the House of Commons at approx. 1230 tomorrow.

The we need a change of british foreign policy. There are British Sikhs who number 800,000+ strong who are taxpayers and professionals in various high level jobs. We need to force the UK parliament to become hostile to the Indian govt and if the Indian govt is not forth coming in bringing justice for Sikhs and creating a Khalistan for Sikhs to live in dignity then let the UK and other western governments remove the ban on armed Sikh separatists groups and let them fight as per UN charter rules for the right to self determination.

[WaljinderSingh]

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Cabinet Secretary, Sir Jeremy Heywood to release report on 1984 disclosure midday tomorrow!!

[WaljinderSingh]

Statement in the House of Commons by William Hague confirmed for tomorrow on attack on Golden Temple. Probably at 12:30 BST unless there is an Urgent Question before.

-John Spellar MP

Sikh Federation UK - SFUK

[WaljinderSingh]

Whitehall probe into Thatcher role in 1984 Amritsar massacre 'too narrow', say Sikh groups Sikh groups criticise the scope of a Whitehall review into whether British SAS soldiers were involved in the 1984 Amritsar massacre

David Cameron launched the probe last month after archive documents suggested that a British officer helped the

Indian authorities with plans to remove Sikh separatists from the city’s Golden Temple. Photo: PA

Sikh groups have criticised the scope of a Whitehall review into whether British SAS soldiers were involved in the 1984 Amritsar massacre.

They are concerned that the review only covered any British complicity in the first part of 1984 - not in the latter half of the year at the time of the massacre, in early June 1984.

David Cameron launched the probe last month after archive documents suggested that a British officer helped the Indian authorities with plans to remove Sikh separatists from the city’s Golden Temple.

William Hague, the foreign secretary, is expected to make a statement to MPs on the review on Tuesday.

In a letter to the Prime Minister, Bhai Amrik Singh, the chairman of the Sikh Federation, said he was “hugely disappointed” with the inquiry’s “narrow terms”.

A meeting with Sir Jeremy Heywood, the Cabinet secretary, had failed to assuage concerns, he said.

Mr Cameron announced last month that Britain’s alleged involvement in the massacre of hundreds of Sikh separatists in an Indian temple in 1984 will be urgently investigated.

Documents disclosed under the 30 year rule revealed that an SAS officer was drafted in to help the Indian authorities with plans to remove dissident Sikhs from the Golden Temple at Amritsar, Sikhism’s holiest shrine.

The plan was ordered with the full knowledge of Margaret Thatcher, according to letters between the Foreign Office and the former prime minister’s private secretary.

Hundreds of Sikhs – many of them pilgrims – were killed in the attack, called “Blue Star” which plunged the country into some of the worst violence in its history.

It is not known whether the plan referred to in the documents from February 1984 was used by the Indian government.

A few months after the massacre, Indira Gandhi, India’s Prime Minister, was assassinated by two Sikh bodyguards in what was regarded as a revenge attack.

In the letter, disclosed on Monday, Mr Singh wrote: “We are dismayed the terms of the review were only formally made available almost three weeks after the review was announced and only days before an announcement of the results of the review are expected in Parliament.

“It appears the review has looked at a narrow period and not covered the period in the latter half of 1984 and may not have addressed some of the concerns raised by UK politicians in the last three weeks, e.g. threat of sanctions by India against the UK, Germany, Canada and USA towards the end of 1984 for sympathising with Sikhs in the Diaspora.

“From the outset you have emphasised the need for transparency, but the significant delay in sharing the terms and that they appear to have been changed for political reasons does not bode well with such assertions and your emphasis on the speed of the review.”

Government sources said that the breadth of the review was dictated by the period which was covered by the documents, which were released under the 30 year rule.

A 10 Downing Street spokesman said: "As soon as the PM became aware of these documents, he tasked the Cabinet Secretary with establishing the facts about UK advice to the Indian Government on its plans for operations at the temple complex in Amritsar.

"This is precisely what the review has done and the Foreign Secretary will set out the findings to MPs tomorrow.”

The row threatens to derail Conservative attempts attempts to attract Sikh voters, who could play a decisive role in marginal seats in London and Leicester.

Last year, on a visit to India, Mr Cameron flew to Amritsar at the end of a trade visit to Delhi and made a public show of British contrition over a different massacre in 1919, which left at least 379 Sikh civilians dead.

The Prime Minister visited a memorial in the Jallianwala Bagh gardens, laying a wreath and writing in a book of remembrance. In his tribute, Mr Cameron stopped short of an apology, but expressed profound regret at the incident.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron/10615576/Whitehall-probe-into-Thatcher-role-in-1984-Amritsar-massacre-too-narrow-say-Sikh-groups.html

[lsingh]

William Hague the Foreign Secretary was brought into politics by Thatcher so is likely to defend her. The Indians have given the evidence already that the SAS were involved in planning Sundown and the same Indian troops were involved in Bluestar. The British would have known civilians would be killed and that the damage and hurt they would caused to the Sikhs.

[WaljinderSingh]

Lets see what happens but from what I know is that the Govt will only give the details of UK's involvement and that also only for early 1984 - not before (end 1983) when the helicopter deals were on table or in June 1984 when the carnage took place.

[WaljinderSingh]

[WaljinderSingh]

Do we accept the report on the enquiry ?

UK Foreign secretary - Documents may not to be disclosed, missing several documents (may be destroyed ??), no independent enquiry allowed and the enquiry reveals no evidence of UK govt link to op. Blue star.

[WaljinderSingh]

******************Read the full UK enquiry report on 1984 attack

here

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/alleged-uk-link-to-operation-at-sri-harmandir-sahib-amritsar-1984

[osingh]

Military advice was given prior to the massacre of operation blue star:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-26027631

The UK government is defending itself by saying only "advice" was given to indian military prior to the attack.

Quote from bbc website "Mr Hague said UK assistance was "purely advisory" and given months beforehand."

The key fact for me in this is that the UK government knew about the attack on sri Darbar Sahib and the plans by the Indian government beforehand. However it kept silent then and has kept silent for all these years. Only when documents were "disclosed" did they admit to this knowledge.

Daas however is not too interested in this. Nothing will happen, no action will be taken. Why get angry? In then end all these governments are jhoote (false).

Why have faith in these political parties? They are devoid of parmatma (god) and parmarth (spirituality). Gursikhs put all their faith in Gurmat which is full of sach (truth). How can those devoid of truth provide justice?

This world is temporary, the leaders are temporary, governments are temporary but Naam is truth and therefore eternal. Don't pay too much attention to politics, Naam jappo jee.