No Other Religion Leads To God

[SikhKosh]

The political correctness is ruining our Nation. The 'all religion leading to God' mentality is a major cause for inter-faith marriages and conversions of Sikhs. The idea does not find any place in Gurmat, for religious practices of Islam, Hinduism, Jainism were rejected and heavily criticised in Dhur Ki Bani, Guru Granth Sahib.

The Gurus and Bhagats rejecting Islam (Hajj, Circumcision and Ramadan)

I do not keep fasts, nor do I observe the month of Ramadaan.

(M5, 1136, Guru Granth Sahib)

Because of the love of woman, circumcision is done; I don't believe in it, O Siblings of Destiny.

Devotee Kabir

(Bhagat Kabeer, 477, Guru Granth Sahib)

The Gurus and Bhagats rejecting Hinduism (Idol Worship, Teerath Yatra, Ekadashi fast amongst others)

I have stopped fasting on Ekadashi; why should I bother to go on Teerath to sacred shrines?

(Bhagat Naamdev, 718, Guru Granth Sahib)

O brother, why worship idols of gods and goddesses, what can you ask of them and what can they give to you?

What is the use of washing stones, which themselves drown in water?

(M1, 637, Guru Granth Sahib)

I have searched many Shastars and Simrtis, they do not show the way to God, but contemplation on God is invaluable.

(M5, 264, Guru Granth Sahib)

Guru Nanak Sahib's satire of Jainism (about 5 million followers)

Shalok, First Mehl:

They pluck the hair out of their heads, and drink in filthy water; they beg endlessly and eat the garbage which others have thrown away.

They spread manure, they suck in rotting smells, and they are afraid of clean water.

Their hands are smeared with ashes, and the hair on their heads is plucked out-they are like sheep!

They have renounced the lifestyle of their mothers and fathers, and their families and relatives cry out in distress.

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(M1, 148, Guru Granth Sahib Ji)

[harj1ts1ngh]

^^^ I'd be careful of what you say Veer as many will accuse you of being a racist for just posting what you have from Gurbani.

Apparently, highlighting the wrongs of idol worship, caste system, slavery, pedophilia and pilgrimages is racist to some Sikhs.

Criticising murderers, racists, sexists, pedophiles, slaveowners is the new definition of racism.

Supposedly Sikhs have to respect such men like David Koresh of the Branch Davidians because he led a religion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Koresh#Accusations_of_child_abuse_and_statutory_rape

Similarly, Gurmeet Ram Rahim Sidhu leads the Jhoota Sauda religion so we have to respect his rapes and murders.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=br9cUP8A_Uo

To criticise 54 year old Prophet Muhammad for having sex with 9 year old child Aisha or owning slaves is supposedly racist.

[kullykhalsa]

I think the point is that although the religous practices that some of these people (such as idol worship) partake in is silly and ridiculous most of these practices dont hurt us (discounting some islamic practices)

Now guru said we are all one, that is guru jis very first message until we start treating everyone as part of one, united then we fail in understanding the rest of bani

Now as long as people dont disrespect bani then they are free to follow whichever religion they choose but they should note all these religions are all part of the "one" and everything they pray to reaches waheguru in a round about sort of way. Now if someone like Rah Raheem harms our sisters brothers even if they are part of his "dera" then it becomes our problem to intercede and fight injustice.

Its not about respect for prophet mohammed its more about respect for the people that believe in him if they choose to do that then its fine, but if they choose to emulate his life by sleeping with young children then im afraid it becomes a sikh problem

[SikhKosh]

Yes, but my only point is that we should stop the parchar that all religions lead to God, Hindus and Muslims wrote in Guru Granth Sahib etc. It does more bad than good. How often haven't you heard Sikhs married to non Sikhs justify it by saying 'but doesn't Sikhi say that all religions are good and lead to God?' ...

There is a difference between saying a religion is wrong and actively promoting the killing of all non-believers. We respect all, we will defend them if need arises BUT we do not agree to their religious practices because they are simply wrong.

Evelyn Hall in Voltaires biography wrote a line which comes to mind: "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it".

[VanHelsingh]

Does Waheguru listen to you even if you're not a Sikh (Gursikh)?

A friend asked me this a few days ago and I honestly didn't know what to say, lol.

[Mehtab Singh]

Does Waheguru listen to you even if you're not a Sikh (Gursikh)?

A friend asked me this a few days ago and I honestly didn't know what to say, lol.

I don't know either, maybe someone can advise, or perhaps you should have your friend contact SikhKosh and find out if his/her calls will be put on hold or will eventually get connected :D :D

[VanHelsingh]

I don't know either, maybe someone can advise, or perhaps you should have your friend contact SikhKosh and find out if his/her calls will be put on hold or will eventually get connected :D :D

It's a genuine question, because if we believe Waheguru created everyone (not just Sikhs) then surely He must at least be keeping a passing interest in the rest of the world who aren't Sikh? :biggrin2:

[Bijla Singh]

Does Waheguru listen to you even if you're not a Sikh (Gursikh)?

Of course. He loves everyone. He created, provides for and showers mercy upon everyone. He listens to all the prayers. Some get granted some don’t. His love is not conditional. He has established the law according to which a person must become Guru-Wala to reach salvation and become one with Him. This does not mean He hates manmukhs or niguray. Those who follow other religions will get some benefit and reward out of it and may get to certain level of spirituality even to the extent of performing miracles but this is nowhere close to the state of equipoise of Gurmat. Guru Rakha

[scali]

All religions and non religions(atheist..) eventually lead to GOD because there is nowhere else to go. We all exist in it (GOD). He gave us a power to choose and create an experience. Some paths take longer than others.GOD does not reveal itself through outward observation but through inward experience. Naam Simran therefor a fast paced path of union.

[SikhKosh]

I am simply stating what the Guru said. Anyone can realise God individually but if you follow the mentioned religions to the letter you won't because you will get struck with Karam Kaands. Now a Sufi can realise Waheguru by chanting Wahid Allah (Ik Oankar in Arabic, as they do in some Arabic countries) but then he is not following Islam to the core. Because Muhammad preached hate, and if you follow in his footsteps, you will get violent. Several sects of Islam that do have some resemblences to Sikhi have deviated from the Quran and the Hadith, but I am talking of the actual religions, who follow their scriptures blindly, not the watered down versions.

My brothers and sisters, I am not saying that we have to discriminate against Hindus or Muslims but that their faith is flawed.

But others than that, I do not follow any Dehdhari, my faith lies in my Guru and He rejected integral aspects of other religions and I do believe in every single action and word of the Guru whole heartedly.