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Why Are So Called Punjabi People So Voilent In Canada?

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mrggg123    138

Why are they so violent ? Especially in places like Vancouver and even California. What is the root cause? Do they come from a certain area of Punjab?

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scali    197

Humans are essentially animals. Their response is mostly based on fear not love. Humans do have a capacity to rise above the animal part by choice of love.

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Why are they so violent ? Especially in places like Vancouver and even California. What is the root cause? Do they come from a certain area of Punjab?

Did you know that California is in the US, not Canada?

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Alot of Punjabi families, like most migrants to the west, have been here for a long time, over a century in BC/California, and like all migrants be they Irish, Italian, Japanese, they struggled and have become quite established, but there also comes the criminal mafia element. There are reputed gangs, and Punjabis are well known in the drug trade as well as other gangland type crimes, with that comes headlines of violence within the community.

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Every group has their gangs and drug dealers in North America.

However, a lot of Punjabis of Sikh backgrounds living in Canada traditionally are blue collar folks who work labour and transportation type of jobs. So some of them decide to make a quick buck through drug trade or join gangs.

Another reason is lack of parental supervision due to parents being too busy at work (too busy working 12 hour shifts at local factory/warehouse) to take care their kids. So these kids end up having more time to hang out with others which eventually some of them hang out with wrong crowd.

Thirdly, a lot of Sikhs in Canada come from Jatt backgrounds (compare to UK & USA sikh community where it's more mix) which encourage to be like a "sher" and don't bow down anyone which causes a lot of fights.

Lastly, racism plays a role why Punjabis are violent due to their anger towards mainstream society and their racism towards Punjabi community.

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Alot of Punjabi families, like most migrants to the west, have been here for a long time, over a century in BC/California, and like all migrants be they Irish, Italian, Japanese, they struggled and have become quite established, but there also comes the criminal mafia element. There are reputed gangs, and Punjabis are well known in the drug trade as well as other gangland type crimes, with that comes headlines of violence within the community.

The proportion of Californian and Canadian Sikhs who are descendants of Sikhs who arrived around 100 years ago is tiny and, in effect, negligible

I'd say well over 90% of Sikhs in California came during the 1980s or later.

In Canada, the large waves of migration started in the 70s

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Every group has their gangs and drug dealers in North America.

However, a lot of Punjabis of Sikh backgrounds living in Canada traditionally are blue collar folks who work labour and transportation type of jobs. So some of them decide to make a quick buck through drug trade or join gangs.

Another reason is lack of parental supervision due to parents being too busy at work (too busy working 12 hour shifts at local factory/warehouse) to take care their kids. So these kids end up having more time to hang out with others which eventually some of them hang out with wrong crowd.

Thirdly, a lot of Sikhs in Canada come from Jatt backgrounds (compare to UK & USA sikh community where it's more mix) which encourage to be like a "sher" and don't bow down anyone which causes a lot of fights.

Lastly, racism plays a role why Punjabis are violent due to their anger towards mainstream society and their racism towards Punjabi community.

The first generation of Sikhs in the UK mostly held blue collar jobs. While the first wave of Sikhs in the US were more professionally oriented, the Sikhs who have arrived in the US in the last 10-20 years are largely unpadh and hold blue collar jobs. So why is this gang problem only an issue in Canada?

Your "jatt" argument holds no weight either. There are lots of "bhappay" in the NYC area, but California is filled with jatts. While jatts form a smaller proportion of the UK Sikh population than they do of the Canadian Sikh population, the raw number of jatts in the UK over the years has probably been comparable to that in Canada.

So why is the gang violence just an issue in Canada?

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mrggg123    138

The first generation of Sikhs in the UK mostly held blue collar jobs. While the first wave of Sikhs in the US were more professionally oriented, the Sikhs who have arrived in the US in the last 10-20 years are largely unpadh and hold blue collar jobs. So why is this gang problem only an issue in Canada?

Your "jatt" argument holds no weight either. There are lots of "bhappay" in the NYC area, but California is filled with jatts. While jatts form a smaller proportion of the UK Sikh population than they do of the Canadian Sikh population, the raw number of jatts in the UK over the years has probably been comparable to that in Canada.

So why is the gang violence just an issue in Canada?

we must find the root cause of this problem and tackle it. One good thing is no one messes with Sikhs in Canada, whereas they laugh at Sikhs in the uk and no1 says a thing.

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The first generation of Sikhs in the UK mostly held blue collar jobs. While the first wave of Sikhs in the US were more professionally oriented, the Sikhs who have arrived in the US in the last 10-20 years are largely unpadh and hold blue collar jobs. So why is this gang problem only an issue in Canada?

Your "jatt" argument holds no weight either. There are lots of "bhappay" in the NYC area, but California is filled with jatts. While jatts form a smaller proportion of the UK Sikh population than they do of the Canadian Sikh population, the raw number of jatts in the UK over the years has probably been comparable to that in Canada.

So why is the gang violence just an issue in Canada?

In Canada, there's a lot of drugs (Mostly in BC where most of Sikh gangsters and dealers live in Canada) and big market to sell them to (US). The drug trade is very dangerous and usually results in violence. Sikhs in Canada play a big part of it since they control transportation/trucking industry in Canada that usually sneak drugs into US.

UK Sikh community is a lot more diverse than Canadian Sikh community. There's a huge chuck of non-Jatt Sikhs and non-Punjabi Sikhs in UK unlike Canada where vast majority of Sikhs come from rural Punjab. So our culture and values are different from each other.

Of course, racism is still an issue in Canada and usually South Asian (including Sikhs) tend to be in receive end of the racism these days in Canada.

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In Canada, there's a lot of drugs (Mostly in BC where most of Sikh gangsters and dealers live in Canada) and big market to sell them to (US). The drug trade is very dangerous and usually results in violence. Sikhs in Canada play a big part of it since they control transportation/trucking industry in Canada that usually sneak drugs into US.

UK Sikh community is a lot more diverse than Canadian Sikh community. There's a huge chuck of non-Jatt Sikhs and non-Punjabi Sikhs in UK unlike Canada where vast majority of Sikhs come from rural Punjab. So our culture and values are different from each other.

Of course, racism is still an issue in Canada and usually South Asian (including Sikhs) tend to be in receive end of the racism these days in Canada.

You made some good points in your first paragraph only to go back to your nonsensical "jatt" argument in the second paragraph.

The UK Sikh community is more diverse than the Canadian Sikh community. But there are more than enough jatts in the UK to cause trouble if all it takes is a substantial number of jatts

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